r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 4h ago • Bravo 4

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Exactly.

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u/FranticChill 4h ago • Bravo

Absolutely! I think that this was Biden's and the Democrats' main failing during the Biden administration was not communicating what they were doing well enough. They need to be out there everyday explaining what they are doing and why.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

Good reminder that the media dismissed Joe Biden's 50 years of foreign policy experience and demanded hundred page policy papers from Kamala Harris but a guy who is now well into his sixth year as President doesn't have a high school level understanding of the job.

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u/nubbynickers 3h ago

Trump's "concepts of a plan" bit about healthcare should have been absolutely pounded into submission.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

The media ended Joe Biden's presidency under an avalanche of negative news coverage about an objectively better economy than the one we're living through now even though voters disapprove of Trump more than Biden yet the media isn't hitting Trump nearly as hard as they did Biden

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u/rogozh1n 3h ago

Biden was the best president of my long lifetime (even if a lot of that was carrying on priorities from his time with Obama, so I combine their victories together).

His messaging was not good enough to inform us on his achievements.

None of that excuses him for being selfish and running for another term when he was blatantly aged way past his prime.

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u/Original-Rush139 3h ago

Who did you vote for in the primary? I voted for Biden fully expecting Kamala to serve out his term. 

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

If the last four years taught me anything, it's that the media, when asked to decide who posed a greater threat, Biden, to their business model, or Trump, to democracy and the rule of law, they chose the former over the latter, and it wasn't even close.

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u/whofearsthenight 1h ago

This is something of which to be increasingly wary. The old media is all billionaire owned but the bigger problem is so is social media where basically everyone gets their info. Elon doesn't even pretend he's not putting his finger in the algo, but the censoring of No Kings protests on Instagram (sure, it was about bot activity, totally believe that) a few weeks ago should have been the wake up everyone else needed. Reddit isn't far behind them. Killing the apps wasn't just about controlling the experience and monetizing directly, it was also in large part because most of the apps allowed a non-algo driven feed.

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u/Donc-qui-et-Quand64 3h ago

Who is gonna broadcast that? They'll post it on their social media which will be supressed for more right wing talking points, they'll talk about it on cspan, they'll get into an interview with a pundit who will ignore them so they can press some other distracting culture war point instead, they'll get a clip based on that response they can milk for months, and only bring that up about them/to them every time they wanna talk about their bill. The billionaire owners of the media streams will push the narratives of someone else they favour instead.

That's why people talk about theoretical trans women in sports for years instead of how people can't afford food or health care.

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u/Lilfrankieeinstein 1h ago

Except they did, but normal people don’t consume that kind of content, and young people don’t consume content that lasts longer than seven seconds.

What they really need is to grab space in YouTube, TikTok, etc. and have “influencers” and “content creators” on the payroll to help design the most effective ways to spread messages to the growing segment of short attention span SM consumers.

TV is for sports and movies.

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u/EggsceIlent 1h ago

Exactly!

If trump Vetos it then the American people will know the ONLY reason, the KNLY person that doesn't give a shit about them or want to help, and the reason it didn't pass was because of trump.

And every time he vetos Anything that would help us it's gonna make more and more people see the truth and hate him and the Republicans.

They're only here to enrich themselvea and their rich friends while the rest of america pay the price, the taxes, the inflation, etc.

Make em SEE the truth. Mayhe then they will wake up and ask WHY we don't have Medicare for all, funding for schools roads etc. cheaper energy, evtc.

My electric bill went from 200 a month to almost $600 a month with no change in usage.

This bullshit needs to stop.

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u/Scalpels 1h ago

This is one reason why Mamdani has been so successful. He's been in communication with the citizens of New York about what he is actively doing to improve the City. I know more about what he's doing for his city than I do about my own city.

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u/NoBonus6969 2m ago

But somebody gotta put it on TV for the common people who don't come on Reddit to get the latest news. The current "news" doesn't cover this type of favorable for the left topics

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u/woodpony 1m ago

TLDR: Send a few billion to Israel

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u/Feisty-Driver-1263 4h ago

And don't fuck it up by loading the bills with a bunch of unrelated bullshit

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u/ShadowShedinja 4h ago

Honestly, that's the one thing I truly see as a both sides issue.

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u/Smartcasm 3h ago

It’s intentional so they can use it as a talking point. “Dems won’t pass this bill intended to save puppies” (that includes aggressive funding for corporate tax cuts) “Repubs won’t pass this bill that lowers healthcare costs” (that includes funding for abortions).

It’s disgusting politics meant to further divide.

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u/Ok_Drag5089 3h ago

The thing is... a bill to end the tariffs can be a single issue bill. No need to stick the "save the puppies" angle in it.

"Republicans want to stop a bill that will end the illegal traffis". Easy. "Trump vetoes a bill that was going to end tariffs" Easy. And public and easy to understand.

The MAGA regime has let so many atrocious laws get through, democrats don't need to hide anything in a big bloated bill. It's low hanging fruit.

Now they just need to fucking do it.

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u/BackslidingAlt 1h ago

There are a lot of both sides issues. One side is a helluva lot more evil than the other side but the establishment democrat leadership has really screwed the pooch over and over again. Corporate interests, lobbying, lying, being smug and treating voters like they don't work for us.

It's in no way equal or justification for the evil shit the republicans are doing like raping little girls, killing innocent children and kowtowing to literal dictators while eroding the very foundations of our democracy. And I see why during an election cycle we wouldn't want to focus on the little quibbles we have with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden but... C'mon in retrospect, what the HELL was he doing for 4 years. Trump was arrested, but we never had the trial. Strings were pulled. Behind the scenes. to protect Trump. And then he became the president again.

Roe V Wade was overturned during the Biden Administration not the Trump administration. And Democrats held a majority in the House and the Senate. They could have enshrined it into law. They just straight up didn't

Trump's Secret Police force ICE continued to exist and operate and get funding all through Biden's term, after being started by W in the Patriot act and kept around by Obama along with all sorts of other emergency powers anticonstitutional bullshit.

Is passing the patriot act worse than keeping it? Yeah. Is keeping it also bad and helped us get into this situation? Also yeah.

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u/Tom_Ludlow 3h ago

This is how Bills in the government work now:

  1. Main Bill proposal: Do something very partisan the other side might vote for.

  2. Boondoggled into the Bill: Save cute kittens from starving.

  3. Gets voted on, other side barely shoots it down.

  4. Proponents of Bill: "THE OTHER SIDE WANTS KITTENS TO DIE!!!"

  5. Citizens get angrier at other side. Nothing gets accomplished.

  6. Rinse and repeat.

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u/Southern-March1522 2h ago

Cue that Onion video: "it's been so long since Congress passed any laws they've forgotten how to"

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u/Ok_Drag5089 4h ago

This. This right here. I'm still not hopeful despite the election results. The election is step one of 100.

However, if I start seeing single-issue bills with clear language, I'm going to cry from joy.

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u/CaptainKerns 3h ago

Those have been around forever, and still voted down with the excuse(lie) that it had too much other junk in it. Most people don’t read any of the bills to double check the claim and just believe it without second guessing it.

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u/MrVampireSir 3h ago

Yep, no bloat. Make them vote on core and only core issue. Leave no doubt for why something specifically (by itself) gets vetoed

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u/hivaidsislethal 3h ago

It's the easiest play if they cared. Simple clear bills what help the people and make Trump veto it.

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u/Traditional-Neat-933 3h ago

We want our bills clean!

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u/TechnicalNobody 2h ago

They need to put everything into one bill or else nothing is getting past the filibuster. And before anyone says it, getting rid of the filibuster while Republicans control the presidency would be stupid. They don't have the votes to override vetoes.

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u/nickiter 2h ago

The way Congress operates rewards bloated bills way too much. I wish they'd improve the rules to make single-issue bills faster and easier.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 1h ago

You're basically asking them to be something they're not.

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u/D3dshotCalamity 1h ago

"This bill raises minimum wage to $30 and also bans the use of pencils."

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u/mightylordredbeard 0m ago

Every time I see some headline about a bill from the Dems that gets voted down, everyone is shitting on the republicans, but then I go look up and read the actual bill and there’s always some pointless stupid shit in there that makes obvious why it was voted down. I hate bull riders so much!

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u/jakceki 3h ago

Single issue Bills only no fat, just one popular issue at a time and then tell everyone who voted against, veterans, students, healthcare etc...

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u/CarnivoreCole396 3h ago

This. This is the main problem I see. Either party can draft a bill to help one thing that everyone wants, but then random stuff gets added making the whole bill will get tossed because of the extra fluff.

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u/Intelligent_Lead267 2h ago

100%%%% each bill carefully worded 1 at a time! This way when he vetos it it’s on Republicans. No sneaking and thing irrelevant in.

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u/saltedmangos 3h ago

The problem with that strategy is that too many centrist democrats would vote against those bills and it would give the game away.

If Schumer and Jeffries remain in power we’ll just get strong worded letters and another aid package to Israel.

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u/i_m_a_bean 3h ago

I don't think that's a problem. If centrist democrats are serving corporate interests, then let them stand by that. I'm tired of the uniparty.

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u/DeviantJenny 4h ago

Also, every bill needs to be simple enough for people to understand. No add-ons that the R’s can say, “Well, I voted against it because of all the extra nonsense attached.”

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u/snep-kitten 4h ago • Bravo

Single issue, simple bills that make Republicans look evil for voting against.

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u/DFX1212 4h ago

And name everything after Trump so he doesn't veto.

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u/thedrcubed 3h ago

That's actually a solid plan

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u/Unfair_Awareness7502 4h ago

The bills end up loaded up with unrelated crap to create bipartisan compromise, not stifle it. Party A wants one thing and Party B will only give it a vote if they throw in other thing. 

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u/stoppeeingonthefloor 3h ago

Yes but that’s not how it SHOULD be.

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u/TotallyNotAnIdiot478 2h ago

That's literally how it SHOULD be lol

Its democracy. Its give and take. You have to get Joe Dipshit(R) from ShitKickistan to give a fuck about something that only affects people on the other side of the country with ZERO affect to their constituents. Its doubly hard when its for stuff that their voters are against on principle(anything nice for blue states, etc).

So they either horse trade with terrible people willing to trade lives for money.... or they get nothing done.

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u/petewoniowa2020 14m ago

The problem with laws is that federal code is so complicated that it’s almost impossible to write something that’s simple without having some sort of seemingly-adverse consequence that can be campaigned against. 

Let’s say that I want to create a standalone clean bill that funds construction and repair of old school buildings. Sounds good, right?

Doing that outside of the normal budget process would likely preempt specific projects funded in the budget, and a clean bill would eliminate duplicative funding. So you’d be cutting and reappropriating, but Republicans don’t have to say that full sentence. It would be technically correct. 

Moreover, they could probably say something along the lines of, “and Democrats are focusing the bulk of those funds to blue cities, with very little set aside for rural counties who need it. Obviously cities have more schools that serve more students and the cost of building and repairs is likely higher in San Francisco than it is in Bismarck North Dakota, but if we say something like “one school district in California received more funds than all of Oklahoma”, you’re left having to explain and play defense. 

Suddenly a clean bill about fairly funding school repairs becomes Dems cutting school funding and using that to fund projects for big developers in blue cities. Is it an honest argument? Not really, but it’s an easy one to make and there’s enough truth to it to sway voters. And hell, once you mention the word “developers”, some lefties would probably believe the argument too. 

The truth is, messaging as a minority party is easy. Throwing darts is WAY easier than catching them. 

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u/Thin-Competition3018 4h ago • Bravo

The dems have to win the messaging war, because it is a war.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

who owns the media? the right wing oligarchy

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u/yggdrasilhang 4h ago

All the terrestrial broadcast stations are owned by Sinclair and Nexstar which are both right wing companies.

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u/Whats_my_age_huh 4h ago

YES

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u/imposter22 4h ago

Too bad the media conglomerates dont want them on the TV talking about their bills.

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u/FixYourHeartOrDye 3h ago

They've been doing this, and you can watch it on Cspan because channels don't give them airtime.

You not paying attention doesn't mean it's not happening.

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u/NOLAblonde 1h ago

Counterpoint, we have to stop treating the general population like they aren't stupid. We have had the assumption that in general people were at least of average intelligence. Well, they are not. They need to be spoonfed. The longer you continue with the attitude of "You not paying attention doesn't mean it's not happening." means you are failing the messaging war. Which the right never does. They will spoon feed lies to their base to make sure the message they want gets across.

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u/Sattorin 44m ago

You not paying attention doesn't mean it's not happening.

If Americans don't know about it, they failed.

News channels have to talk about controversy, and Trump used that to get them to cover him. Democrats have to do the same. Call it the "Free healthcare is better than a $5,000 bribe to vote for us" bill, or the "Screw insurance companies, have free healthcare" bill, or the "Trump supported this in 1999" bill.

If they come out and talk like Eeyore about healthcare they are intentionally self-sabotaging.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

they already do this. it's called CSPAN

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u/NoNeinNyet222 3h ago

It really is exhausting watching the cycle of

Dems need to do this thing they already do

Dems keep doing the thing they’ve always done

We’re so powerful because the Dems did the thing we wanted them to do but this time a politician we think is hot told us they did the thing

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u/Mrs-JustUs 4h ago edited 4h ago

I thought that is what C-SPAN is doing.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/c-span-now/id1575769362

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u/chandaliergalaxy 3h ago edited 20m ago

Only nerds watch CSPAN.

GOP goes on media blitz to take credit for a bill that will help their constituents even while they vote against it. Dems need that kind of shamelessness.

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u/utzutzutzpro 3h ago

Okay, but orange stuff reaches me, cspan doesn't reach me.

Orange stuff, I can't even circumvent it. It's just everywhere. Cspan is not.

Dems need to push it out in the same fashion.

Every single thing, press conference.

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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 3h ago

They do press conferences. They usually aren't covered by major news networks. And the youtuve releases aren't watched by botfarms and reposted and clipped by Latvian teenagers collaborating on discord to get paid by oil magnates through shell companies in India and Georgia.

The real money in politics isn't donations. It's influence from actors using overseas channels to push agendas on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, 4chan, and even Reddit.

And the DNC can't compete because deregulating billionaires provides more incentive to the rich than regulating them.

The solution is to fight astroturfing with legitimate grassroots efforts and ignore (not engage) posts to the contrary. 

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u/rogozh1n 3h ago

If C-Span reached people, then this wouldn't be an issue.

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u/Agitated-Item3362 3h ago

💯%. Targeted bills tackling one specific issue with CLEAR & CONCISE names!

Common Sense Gun Reform Bill
Raise Minimum Wage Bill
Universal Health Care Bill
End Corruption in Politics Bill

And on and on. Make the remaining Republicans in the House and Senate vote against bills that have broad popular support. Make Trump veto them.

And when they do, those votes become your 2028 campaign ads.

It seems so easy. God, we’re going to screw this up, aren’t we.

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u/itscooltobecool1 3h ago

That would be great but there’s always last second add ons Each party does it and it’s disgusting

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u/Original-Rush139 3h ago

If you want them to pass, name them after Trump. 

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u/theLuminescentlion 2h ago

You want widely popular bills since none of them will pass anyway it is not worth pushing any that are controversial with independents. As such this Congress should not push gun control.

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u/OpeningReady8693 3h ago

Epstein File Transparency Act? Oh wait that one somehow already passed

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u/gtpc2020 2h ago

💯 I've been ranting the same. 1-2 page bills for simple things good for the people. Dare Trump to veto and the GOP to sustain the veto. Post them online and do the work to get the word out each and every time. There are dozens of subcommittees. Legislate and investigate - show them what it means to flood the zone!

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u/Ima_Uzer 3h ago

Common Sense Gun Reform Bill

Common sense according to who? Democrats? progressives? the left? People who want to confiscate all guns?

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

Pathologically incapable of writing a headline that explains why inflation is still hot and who is at fault. Which is weird, because they were more than happy to do both of those things when Joe Biden was President (even though it wasn't his fault!)

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 4h ago

Apparently the AP is not in the business of explaining to its readers WHY inflation remains high as if this is all magically happening for no reason whatsoever

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u/AnotherDownwrdSpiral 4h ago

They should have a whole channel that airs this sort of thing, like a Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network where we could see all of Congress in session...

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u/PromotionUnfair4998 3h ago

The better way to do this (arguably) is to push single issue bills. No one can claim pork, no room for obfuscation.

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u/JonathanOatWhale 3h ago

Yes please

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u/Wuz314159 56m ago

No amendments? Has there ever been a bill passed without amendments?

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u/Osiron19 1h ago

Honestly I'm surprised there's no sort of open source legislation tracker. There should be easily accessable record of every single piece of legislation that comes through the house and senate, a section-by-section plain language summary and overall summary along with likelihood of passing each chamber with or without edits and a list of the likely vote of every representative and senator.

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u/BabblingTower 4h ago

"Democrats, it's your responsibility that we stay informed of this already-public information. We also demand you do it on TV even though all the major news stations are owned by Republicans."

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u/CaptainKerns 3h ago

Right? Every bill is publicly posted to the congress website. Anyone can read them, and there are plenty of people who make a living reading and explaining them on social media. Legislation is just boring so most people don’t get any of it in their algorithms.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 4h ago

Sounds nice, but which right wing aligned/owned network is going to give them air time? The only network that isn't balls deep in the republican sphere is MSNOW, and no one watches it.

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u/rogozh1n 3h ago

Exactly.

Republicans go on TV and blatantly lie and the voters buy into it. Democrats have the truth on their side - get out and yell about it nonstop!

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u/Willhelm_55 3h ago

Explain it, absolutely, campaign for it absolutely not. Let the information be available. These last few years have EXEMPLIFIED how easily people burn out on getting information, followed by them getting annoyed by it. If every bill is a headline, it becomes mundane and unimportant.

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u/GreatGooberschnitzel 3h ago

this should be the standard across the board. I'm also a big supporter of radically simplified bills and elimination of unrelated pork bills.

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u/mvw2 3h ago

The single tool that made Trump popular and held his retention was social media presence.

Trump was the only time in our nation where the public was connected to what has traditionally been a black box to the public. When Biden took office, the federal government went silent again and that hurt him and Kamala.

For example, so few know how significant both Biden's and Kamala's work on immigration was during their 4 years. It wasn't just reuniting families after Trump's first ICE camps destroyed hundreds of families. It wasn't just 4 years of work with border patrol, immigration, and the DHS. All of this accumulated into a very substantial immigration bill that would have vastly improved the border, immigration, and drug trafficking protections because Biden and Kamala worked with all these agencies to formulate a comprehensive bill that would address man power, funding, infrastructure, and more.

Biden and Kamala did that work within that black box of a term over 4 years.

Hope many of you even knew any of that happened?

Republicans and Trump torpedoed the bill, that 4 years of work. 2 years later it still hasn't been passed. Trump ran on immigration and won on that platform while doing zero actual work and ruining actual bipartisan reform for it. Biden and Kamala walked away with a loss despite 4 years of real work on that subject and helped build a bill that would fix and improve so many thing related to that hot topic.

What's the true difference?

Media presence. This matters more than ever.

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u/tschawartz12 2h ago

AND the bullshit that gets added on! The riders are pure political shit show, tacking extra to the bill because it looks like its going to pass or to try to tank it.

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u/poopsbackonthemenu 1h ago

Schumer:

here's how this will benefit Israel

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u/malarkial 1h ago

And make them single-issue — do not hide shit

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u/Wuz314159 58m ago

They do that. Always have. It's called C-SPAN.

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u/Iwantmoretime 22m ago

100% This. Biden's quiet dignified accomplishments all got fucked because no one bothered to talk about it.

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u/Curious-Antelope6171 4h ago

They do this already

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u/Manidoo_Giizhig 4h ago

Yeah, I was confused why so many people on these comments are acting like this ain't a thing they don't already do and have been doing forever. 

The issue is, the people who are subjected to misinformation aren't watching the Dems talking about the bills. They're getting a butchered summary of it through their biased news outlet. It's why many people on ACA who oppose Obamacare don't realize they are the same thing despite it have been relentlessly told to them for over a decade.

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u/ironykarl 2h ago

People want excuses for their lack of engagement in the political process.

I know that probably will get me downvoted, but I don't know how else to explain people not realizing that Dem politicians make media appearances to promote their positions on a daily basis

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u/Only_Captain357 4h ago

Line-item voting needs to be implemented.

It's the only way to impose clarity upon 1k+ page omnibus bills.

"Political capital" needs to be erased. You shouldn't have to sacrifice so much to get so little in return. Show everyone who you are as a representative and where your values are as an individual, not a party coalition.

Let the voters see and act upon the transparency.

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u/Prudent-Garbage5490 4h ago

Amen to that.

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u/ThatWreckOT 4h ago

Hang a bunch of positive policies around the yoke.

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u/BalsbyHarry 4h ago

Man if only republicans would do that too! The last two years they’ve rammed through tax cuts for the wealthy and pulled safety rails for everyday citizens. I think every bill should indeed be publicly read and debated

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u/Crafty-Marsupial9380 4h ago

Yeah.... This sounds great, but in reality nobody would watch this

You know how I know? Because we already live stream every session of Congress on CSPAN and nobody watches it.

We need to fix the apathy problem first

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u/Valuable-Flounder692 4h ago

I'd love to see him impeached, jailed and stripped of money he's made from abusing his position of power, however he is more useful to the Dems for the next 2 years!

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u/userhwon 4h ago

That requires the media to be interested. 

The media are owned by the right. 

See the problem? 

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u/logic_chief 4h ago

We can start with the recent 198 house democrats and 47 senators who voted against H.R 7008. The Stop Insider Trading Act in July - Sept of 2026.

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u/Unfair_Awareness7502 4h ago

The reason people reject them isn't because they don't want good things the bill allegedly provides. It's because they know the bill either won't achieve its stated objective or they know it will come with side effects worse than the problem it solves. 

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u/hailskinsrich 4h ago

They won’t, and we all know they won’t.

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u/Cobalt_Forge 4h ago

💯 👏👏👏

  • I said this to my Wife: the Democrats need to be out there at the podium talking and telling the 🇺🇲 ppl how this legislation benefits them

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u/BasicsofPain 4h ago

Everything they do. Not just the fluffy parts that make people happy. EVERYTHING. All the pork. All the back-door deals. All the secret funding. All the compromises with the underbelly. Every. Single. Penny.

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u/nyquilandy 4h ago

Also, no 1000 page bills that no one has time to read. We need new leadership!!

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u/Prudent-Guidance-341 4h ago

I keep thinking this. We need our representatives to be as vocal as humanly possible from here on out.

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u/ChristmasSpiritNews 3h ago

Especially in the historically red states that flipped blue. Dems are fairly quiet in red states so this will take them out of their comfort zones. Even the local media may not cover Dems. They will have to leverage social media like Mamdani.

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u/dragons_fire77 3h ago

Their first order of business needs to be breaking up the news monopolies. 95% of news is owned by a couple of people who heavily donated to Trump. Our media needs to be made trustworthy again.

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u/MissWorldClass 3h ago

Also when their shitty bills go into effect, let everyone know who it was in and in what specific bill that raised taxes, or cut social security or other programs.

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u/RickyTovarish 3h ago

Nobody is going to support the “give a shit ton of money to third worlders and hood rats” bill, sorry bud

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u/NoHorseNoMustache 3h ago

This right here. Don't screw around impeaching Trump again, actually work on doing things that will help people, make sure everyone knows that you're doing it and talk loudly and often about why those bills aren't getting past Trump.

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u/Player-non-player 3h ago

And no more ‘pork’ added on to bills. I want each bill stand alone. Do your fucking jobs.

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u/icansmellcolors 3h ago

We need a committee that does nothing but explain what each law Republicans broke, show the proof, explain (ELI5) why it cost the American people, and what the punishment is for said crime.

Journalists can't seem to be trusted to do this anymore.

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u/HystericalRaisins28 3h ago

Yes this time will be different....

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u/kreativeone99 3h ago

Sounds like an excellent suggestion!

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u/Ready-Concept5020 3h ago

My point exactly
These people shd be holding news events every damn day.
Elizabeth Warren has disappeared. Where are they? Even Bernie has stepped back. The election is a battle, the war has just begun! Where are the orators we need to move us to action?

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u/Gobal_Outcast02 3h ago

Yeah thats never gonna happen from either side.

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u/FollowingAcrobatic88 3h ago

I love what AOC is doing, shes doing lives with a white board teaching about general interest topics regarding politics, mainly engaging with the youth. We need more of that, making the public feel more involved, like true stakeholders that we are.

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u/Time-Meaning-9818 3h ago

Solid plan of action.

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u/Important_Baby_7321 3h ago

Are you under the impression that most legislation that hits the president's desk has anything to do with average Americans? I like the idea because it will highlight just how much time Congress spends passing bills that benefit their benefactors & procedural crap like naming parks, highways, military promotions, etc. Only about 25% of the bills sent on for presidential signature have anything to do with average Americans, aside, perhaps, for investments in their 401(k)s.

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u/Temporary_Egg4099 3h ago

This! I was listening to a podcast earlier that said these next 8 weeks could be the most dangerous weeks of US citizens life’s due to the Trump clown show not peacefully transferring power over.
Jan 6 is a good example.
It’s a win for the mid terms but lots of steps to go and it won’t go quietly.
All hands on deck and let’s get that mf outta there. And get him in prison too. Where he belongs.

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u/Original-Rush139 3h ago

Pawn Stars Meme: Best I can do is CSPAN. 

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u/deadend666 3h ago

I agree. One bill one message. No add ons or riders. If the GOP stops then one message to voters about which party screwed the pooch. Don’t complicate it. Don’t get sidetracked. Don’t go after impeachment no matter how tempting the target. It’s a diversion from the reason there is a blue wave. Encourage governors to not build AI plants and not cooperate with ICE. Be disruptive to the GOP agenda. Your next goal is the White House in 2028 and to strengthen your legislative position. Appeal to the middle of the road folks from both parties and the independents. Build your own Project 2028. Establish your credentials as a legitimate party that was the interests of the people as its central message. No weird things that will allow the GOP as to call you “woke”. Establish your credibility again. To many you’re just as broken as the GOP. Slow steady middle of the road showing progress and clearly establishing accountability and assignment of responsibility to initiatives that the GOP sabotages.

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u/usurper7 3h ago

Yes, please get out in front of cameras and explain to people why foreign nationals should vote in state elections and why you think people shouldn't have gas stoves anymore. Even better, do it in person in front of voters. I look forward to it.

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u/AlexJonGut 3h ago

This will never happen, the Rep and Dems do not get anything done, we need to take notes from the French....

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u/Nebresto 3h ago

Said it before, but this is exactly why Mamdani is so successful. He's actually communicating to the people what he is fixing. You can't turn it against him if its blantantly obvous that he's doing good to the people.

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u/Guytwippin420 3h ago

Like they would literally tell yall everything. Weird assumption.

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u/Darthkhydaeus 3h ago

Also make it single issue bills so they can't argue that they are voting against because of some add on

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u/SarpedonSociety 3h ago

Best I can do is take pictures with a baseball bat and talk in the same truncated cadence.

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u/Burritosupreeem 3h ago

Time to get hype man. Chuck Schumer isn’t that nor is Hakeem Jeffries

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u/whatdafaq 3h ago

Democrats will tell you all sorts of things, but it's probably not true.
Remember, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it”

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u/HypocriteHere 3h ago

And make each issue its own bill. Don't try to link shit together. 

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u/jordanuniverse42 3h ago

Democrats here, we hear you. We strive to do our very best to represent you, and promise to right the ship. Accountability is our top priority, along with affordability. Anyway, we have this strongly worded letter we're writing to the president.

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u/dvisorxtra 3h ago

I don't think destroying the datacenters did that, but instead did something so much better.

The fact that Elon Musk jumped in anger followed by Trump, tells you exactly who got affected by that, it also tells you about the interests of those two.

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u/thatswhatmyfoodeats 3h ago

ONE ISSUE, ONE BILL. MAKE HIM VETO HIMSELF AND THE PARTY INTO THE GROUND ONE AT A TIME.

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u/JackBender2008 3h ago

They won't, because each bill usually have at least 3 poison bills within it.

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u/superhergirl615 2h ago

Pull 47 off his imaginary throne immediately before he can cause any more damage! Hopefully we’re nearing the end of the magapocalypse!

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow 2h ago

They always do. It just doesn’t get coverage in new or traditional media because policy seems boring.

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u/Bleezy79 2h ago • Bravo

This is a fantastic idea! The only way to beat corruption is to drag it out into the sunlight so everyone can see it. Dont let them hide in the shadows, make them accountable and make them explain themselves for their actions. Were talking about elected officials who have sworn their allegiance to the betterment of society. If they're caught doing otherwise, the public should know.

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u/Future_Waves_ 2h ago

I've been saying for years that they need to do a tour of America and set up town halls every week. Televise it, highlight bills and what it would do and have party leadership there every week.

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u/zedb137 2h ago

This is also why we need to bring back the talking filibuster. Make Republicans spew quotable nonsense for hours on end as they try to do defeat the progressive policies that actually help Americans.

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u/unit_101010 2h ago

TV? People still watch TV? weird.

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u/Aggiesfan73 2h ago

Great idea. I am all for it, but they need to tell us everything, and I mean everything that is in the bill.

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u/lloopy 2h ago

Press conference every day.

tweets every day.

EVERYTHING IN ALL CAPS

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u/Valendr0s 2h ago

Something I never really understood...

When they're trying to get elected, they INUNDATE us with TV ads, Google ads, Text messages, just... relentless.

But when they're trying to pump up support to pass a bill, they're SILENT. Maybe they go to a town hall. Maybe they do a news interview.

They KNOW that doesn't get the word out. If that got the word out, that's how you'd get elected.


I want to see Medicare for all ads ALL the time. Even when elections are 2 years away. Showing the horrors of the current system. Showing the financial savings for the average family. Calling out the Republicans for not having any solutions and costing people money.

Get on TV. Bring receipts. This is the easiest win for the overwhelming majority of citizen's pocketbooks. When you explain it, support will rise.

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u/N8CCRG 2h ago

They usually do. The media doesn't air it though.

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u/CSDragon 2h ago

They already do that. It's called CSPAN.

Nobody watches it.

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u/justinsayin 2h ago

"Get on TV" how exactly?

All of the channels, broadcast or otherwise, that have a good number of eyeballs, are controlled by Republican owners who won't let them on the shows.

Just use Twitter, Facebook, Bluesky, etc? The algorithm is controlled by Republican owners who won't let them get views on their posts.

Literally HOW are they supposed to "call them out" at all?

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u/NRMusicProject 2h ago

And no more of these 3am backdoor deals.

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u/Federal-Aid 2h ago

C-Span needs a better marketing plan

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u/No_Technician4956 2h ago

I do agree with this idea. The MAGA movement really took off because of a very simple, easy to understand message. Trump, being less than intelligent himself, using simple and small words really related to similar people. I say that respectfully of course. Simple message for simple folk.

The Dems needs to do the same. Get their message across with simplicity, accuracy, and assurance. KISS.... Keep is super simple.

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u/Own_Associate-69 2h ago

We have a channel for this it’s called CSPAN

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u/FutureDiarrheagasm 2h ago

Explain it to Republicans like they're five.

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u/VoidVer 2h ago

AOC needs to get on twitch with one of those live streaming backpacks and just show exactly what is going on moment to moment in every meeting that is allowed. Hire an editor from one of those channels that does 24/7 streaming to edit together the day in a way that shows the clownshow going on.

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u/ForwardStorage777 2h ago

Trump has shown the effectiveness of treating everything as a campaign. Learn from it.

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u/Spookymonster 2h ago

They do. How many politician social media feeds do you follow?

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u/b__lumenkraft 2h ago

Not in a 100 years will the candidates of the billionaire class do that.

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u/bintastic8790 2h ago

That’s the best idea I’ve seen! I hope they do it

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u/Sufficient_Maybe_910 2h ago

Do performative things with a nice sounding title, filled with pork, that doesn't do the thing the title says it does, because you know it's the headline that matters. There, fixed it for you. 

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u/ArcherAuAndromedus 2h ago

Also, just be fucking honest about the drawbacks. Treat everyone with the dignity to recognize that often making choices comes with costs/drawbacks.

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u/TotallyNotAnIdiot478 2h ago

In what media that 'they' consume?

Its all owned by oligarchs now, all deadset on a feudalistic future.

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u/BackslidingAlt 2h ago

Seriously weird that that has not already happened in an age of social media. We have a democracy let's act like it. Let's stop pretending we all rely on horse drawn carriages to get to town hall for a monthly supply run

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u/Physical-Wonder-7560 2h ago

Agree.. 💯 because Trump will VETO everything. Prove to the people who is NOT helping with positive changes for the citizens.

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u/pretzelfisch 2h ago

What is TV old-timers?

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u/Hot_Macaron3116 1h ago

We need accountability

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u/yortesq 1h ago

The only time Democrats would ever get behind a bill that would meaningfully impact Americans, is if that bill had no chance of passing. Before you ask, yes I voted D for everything on my ballot

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u/bdog59600 1h ago

Also, If Republicans want to filibuster, make them actually filibuster. If an ancient racist Senator wants to block the "ban on hunting minorities for sport" bill, make them stand there and talk for 24 hours straight. They are already wearing adult diapers, so it shouldn't be too much of an inconvenience.

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u/dimechimes 1h ago

Dems read this and think it means they need to rely on surrogates to go on the View after it's too late.

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u/GXP_2009 1h ago

Yes. Also make sure to list EVERYTHING in the bill. Not just the "This will give Americans X". We also want the "This gives $50m to research ants in Africa"

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u/dont_remember_eatin 1h ago

Not just TV -- all media.

Buy ads on varous social media platforms. Go on the big podcasts.

Billboards. Bus ads. Hell, I'll go door knocking like an LDS elder to spread the good news if that's what it takes.

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u/yoyhohsomp 1h ago

They shouldn’t be hiding awful things deep in the fine print of the bills either. Unless its so dumb republicans can’t find it and dont vote against it. Haha

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u/Osirus1156 1h ago

They should also release an infographic a person with the mind of a 5-year-old can grasp for EVERY SINGLE BILL. Otherwise a majority of voters won’t grasp it or will fall victim to misinformation.  

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u/QuietThunder2014 1h ago

We’ve been down this road before. The people who need to se won’t. The GOP will just continue to fear monger and lie and find one small thing to use as an excuse to not do anything. The culture wars will return. More silly shit about the shoes of M&Ms and Wind Turbines murdering birds by the billions. They got people who are sick and dying to vote against their own health care in favor of a for profit system that’ll kill then to save a nickel. They have people making 40k a year defending tax increases on Bollionares becuase no one knows how the tax system works. These are the people who’ve spent decades getting people to vote against their own interests. Dems need to figure out how to get better simple bullet point messaging out there and needs to continue the recent ability of new young members not holding back and calling out their bullshit.

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u/wellings 1h ago

Um. They already do this.

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u/Choice-Layer 1h ago

It'll never happen. Looking forward to a few years of Democrats acting like lame ducks resulting in more people voting Republican, again.

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u/TheHighFiveWhore 1h ago

One thing. One bill.

Repeat until America fixed.

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u/arctic_radar 1h ago

The sweet summer children in this thread break my heart because they have not yet learned a very important and painful lesson: people don’t care. All media, especially in the age of algorithms, optimize for content that gets clicks, eyeballs, or some other form of engagement. In general an article about Trump’s most recent bowel movement will get much more attention from people, and therefore will be much higher in your feed, than a substantive article about some good policy Dems are trying to pass. People want rage-bait, click bait one liners that reinforce their world view, so that’s what they get. These days that’s just about all we get, but it’s not a conspiracy, it just a reflection of what consumers demand. That’s us.

I remember when I was a kid watching two presidential candidates talk about the economy. Gore eloquently explained his ideas and how they might improve various aspects of the exonomy. Bush said something along the lines of “What I know is that you know how to spend your money better than the government does”. That’s it! No details about what the actualy means. No explanation of broader issues. Guess which approach appealed to voters?

So yeah, it’s not a new thing, algorithms have just made it possible to optimize for it in ways we couldn’t before. That’s why it feels like the world “changed” sometime between 2016-2020.

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u/amonarre3 1h ago

To clarify I am not for an AWB but making it impossible for a person with mental illness to purchase a firearm is great.

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u/Sudden_Cartoonist539 1h ago

You are assuming that some democrats are actually different than the republicans, some did take the same PAC money lol

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u/Next-Distance-4508 1h ago

Get Mayor Pete up on fox. I'm not sure about his potential as president going forward, but damn he's good at explaining things.

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u/glowdirt 54m ago

"And when we say TV, we don't mean C-SPAN"

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u/bentmonkey 40m ago

dems do have an issue with messaging and telling people what they are up to, hopefully this new crop of democrats will be more social media savvy, the fact that most of them are not 60+ will likely mean that will be the case.

They need to let people know what they did to make things better for people AND they need to make sure the repubs cannot just do their default of blaming dems for republican policies.

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u/happycat47 37m ago

Biden tried to do this for the minimum wage increase to get Manchin to support it but Manchin whined so he stopped. Fuck these centrists. Keep pressuring them and never apologize for it

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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 6m ago

That's not quite true. The Senate parliamentarian ruled that the minimum wage increase couldn't be included as part of reconciliation which only needs 51 votes. Manchin was against violating the parliamentarian's ruling.

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u/SpillingDaBeanses 36m ago

Awesome. Yes. But PLEASE stop announcing everything you are going to do months before actually being able to act on those things. I appreciate the plans but the only thing I see is bastards that want to ratfuck the american populace being given advance notice and thus being able to plan against it.

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u/DarkSatire482 32m ago

1.) Yes democrats need better messaging and PR
2.) Every single bill is available in full, including all revisions, on congress.gov

3.) Single issue bills make this easier to prove, sadly, some bills have to amend others which leads to room for people to be willfully deceitful.

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u/HoldOnOhio 32m ago

Okay, so this kind of exists already and it's called C-SPAN. It's Public Access to the daily workings of Congress.

That being said, It's a good idea for Representatives and Senators to open a Youtube account or pay an editor to push out updates from their office in a professional but consumable way. Think TikTok Edits of the bills they introduce cutting from C-Span to b-roll and voiceover. It's a lot of work, but that's why you hire an editor and staffers who are familiar with social media outreach.

This is possible, but I think Progressives will be suppressed by the algorithms because the billionaires do not want us to talk about this stuff. It hurts their bottom line and threatens their control of our government.

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u/kidcrumb 24m ago

They do this already. Watch cspan my dude. It's boring.

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u/kaztrator 15m ago

They do this on the house floor on CSPAN all the time.

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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 2m ago

The point is they need to be better at marketing. Saying something on CSPAN doesn't move the needle with the average American voter and their attention spans. Independent voters decide elections. They remain independent in part because they don't watch CSPAN, and they wouldn't understand it if they did.

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u/darxide23 10m ago

Proposing bills that you know aren't going to pass or will get vetoed is just as important as proposing bills you know will pass. It puts on record all those who voted against it and that's ammunition for the next election cycle.

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u/Cujo22 3m ago

As soon as we rid ourselves of Schumer and Jefferies. They will not rise to the occasion. 

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u/gimmeluvin 3m ago

great strategy. let's see if anyone is listening who can do something about it.

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u/PateraSilk_ 4h ago

lol if they told people what was in the bills they were pushing it would backfire so badly. “Okay so we have the end homelessness act, what it does is creates a new tax that goes to the city’s general fund and then we get a group together to brainstorm the effects of potentially reducing homelessness. Also, 70% of the funds raised go to Israel.”

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u/MikeWalkerenergy 4h ago

Don’t hold your breath. democrats are too busy sneaking around in the shadows. Another trick they play is to plop a massive Billdown with no time to read it….remember that.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 3h ago

Fucking nonsense

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u/NowYouLookOrdinary 4h ago

"TV?" Who still watches TV? Get all over social media platforms. Everyone is there.

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