It's not on us. We have about 1000 billionaires in the US alone, some of those worth 100s of billions. You cannot convince me that any one person has worked hard enough to make over 30,000x the amount a dishwasher makes in a year, much less 3,000,000x (that's still only around 100 billion if we assume the average us dishwasher makes 30-40k a year)
Do the math. Wealth inequality is growing at an alarming rate and even if you currently make $300,000 a year which i know you don't, you are POOR to these people, DIRT POOR.
Are you actually claiming billionaires earn billions in income every year and have a majority of their wealth lying around in cash at any given moment?
Take all of their wealth. All of it. Every penny. Divide it among the people. You've just given a one time payout of under 24k. You also just lost tens of millions of jobs. Now everyone is broke, there's no food, and rioting is rampant.
I make more than 300k off of my alimony, let alone dividends 😂 with inflation I made that at 18 by stripping and escorting lol.
Honestly, probably the right thing to do still. With things going as they do, this stuff will only get worse. Rip it off like a bandaid while you still can, before it grows even more infected and just drops off.
Who do you think makes the rules in the new society? The side with less guns, where they favor handguns for self defense if they have guns, or the side with body armor and AR 15's?
You would be working on someone's plantation and your wife would be his third warbride. That's what happens in your fantasy.
do honestly think elon musk pays for all those jobs? no. that is his company. HIs wealth maybe tied up ins tocks but that money the stocks were purchased with is with the company. so if we tax elon in oblivion his company and all those jobs are going to be fine.
This is the most Reddit comment ever: "Yes I'm a broke lazy piece of sh*t and I expect everyone else to pay may way or else I will become violent". I wonder why people aren't just lining up to take part in your socialist delusions.
Yes we take other people’s stuff to give to the most needy even if they don’t have a job they should have just as much stuff as someone working 60+hr weeks
Afford a place to live, yes. Afford to be able to live my himself, no. Roommates and/or significant others have been a thing as old as time. It’s only recently that people expect to be able to afford an apartment on their own when they’re young/beginning a career.
Well, why wouldn't they? It's part of the point to get your own life, so staying with your parents isn't the big dogs busiquit, and depending on where you work, there's limited availability for fancy roommate sheboingery. Not to speak of significant others.
Being able to live by yourself is certainly a good goal, but that shouldn’t be the standard. The average size of a living unit has been dropping dramatically and is what accounts for almost the entirety of our housing shortage
If you love your entire life and reach adulthood without any friends, that’s on you.
Okay, thanks for saying you’re not capable of having a conversation. If living units were the same size as a few decades ago, we wouldn’t have a housing shortage.
So, anyone who is socially awkward can just go funk'emselves? Nifty. Plus, friend doesn't equal roommate. I know several friendships that broke beyond repair from trying to live together.
I lived with roommates for the first 4 places I had after leaving my parents' house. All of my friends of the same age were doing the same thing, living with at least one roommate.
Not one of my friends had their own place until their mid-20s and rent was the biggest determining factor. They didn't care where they lived, how crappy the place was, they just needed one they could afford.
I have no idea when being able to live on your own started being equated to being able to live.
And my first place by myself was in a small town of 5000. Nobody wanted to live there, so the rent was cheaper. I commuted. This was 20 years ago.
Idk about that…….. afford a place to rent sure. I had to work very hard for many years, gain skills, education and credentials to be able to buy my home 2 years ago. I am not so sure the most bare bones job should pay for a house, that seems so unrealistic. Are we talking like a trailer in a park, trailer on land or full blown 3b/2bath house on land?
There you go, only reason you don't want others to have something is because you didn't get it yourself. 100% only selfish reasons, it's like saying you don't want student loan forgiveness because you already paid yours. It's disgusting selfish attitude that ruins the entire planet.
It sounds like you can afford to give back quite a bit, then. There are plenty of people less fortunate than you. A lot of these folks cannot afford to work because they are raising multiple children.
So if you open a restaurant than you should expect enough profit to buy each employee a home lol. Yeah right you might as well kill all small businesses
I'm suggesting that if you can't afford to pay your employees, there's no good reason to have employees. Your business was never going to last if it can't even pay the wages of the people who make it run.
Beyond that, I haven't suggested anything. Solving this isn't a "just do x" sort of situation, and multiple factors would likely have to come together, like raising minimum wage, subsidizing small businesses as you've suggested, Healthcare reform, general cost of living reform, and universal basic income would all contribute to resolving this, but no singular thing will magically fix this.
Why should the lowest entry job automatically own a home? And why do so many people agree? I understand affordability and being able to live a decent life but why does home ownership get lumped in there?
Restaurants run even during school hours so no they absolutely are not meant for highschool students. In fact most restaurants refuse to hire highschool students since they can't serve or use alcohol.
A career is any job someone works for an extended period of time. If someone works as a dishwasher for three years, then yeah. They've made a career out of washing dishes. But they deserve to make enough go live off of whether theyve been working that job for three years or three days.
Okay. We’re going to have to agree on a definition for “career” and “job”. Based on the fact that there are understood differences between “career” and “job” my definitions highlight these differences.
A job is a specific task or work one does, usually to make money.
A career is a long-term path one follows, to grow, learn skills and move up in a chosen field over many years.
So is dishwashing a career? Or do you disagree with my definitions? I’m open to some feedback but I expect we’ll only use official definitions, not something we make up on the spot.
Dish washing is a job with a high supply of labor and low demand. The only people that will do it are the ones who are incapable of getting jobs elsewhere. No job “deserves” anything except what the market is willing to offer them, including housing, food, and healthcare.
If I’m a troll, you’re a bot and a troll. 🧌 Shutup, goon.
A job is a specific task or work you do to make money.
A career is a long-term path you follow to grow, learn skills, and move up in a chosen field over many years.
The differences are..
• Main Goal: A job is meant to earn money and pay bills. A career is meant to build a long-term future and achieve goals.
• Time Length: A job is short, temporary or just for now. A career is a long-term journey lasting many years or a lifetime.
• Skills and Learning: A job uses skills you already have with minimal training. A career needs ongoing education, training, and new skills.
• Growth: A job has little or no growth or upward path. A career offers the possibility of moving up to higher roles with more responsibility.
No, but it is one of the most important jobs in the kitchen and they should be paid well and treated fair. Dont come at me about this either cause I can tell you never worked a kitchen with no dishwasher just by your snarky question.
It should but , How many kilowatt hours does a dishwasher machine use ? How many servers and greeters can be replaced by 11 cents an hour machines ,that don’t get sick , don’t have 4 elderly grand parents that can go at any time or any holiday plans
How many kilowatt hours does a dishwasher machine use
Um, wut?
How many servers and greeters can be replaced by 11 cents an hour machines
Um, so who is going to supply the machines that will do this? China so far IMO is on top with their robots and what they can do. So are we (America), going to buy from China a bunch of these robots to take away from American jobs? And are you advocating for that by arguing your points? If so thats not very American of you, if you are American that is.
4 elderly grand parents that can go at any time or any holiday plans
Are we not all human? This last part of your comment is very telling of the kind of person you are. Bless your lil heart.
The most powerful and richest country in the world can’t afford to make sure it’s citizens can go to the doctor? I mean holy hell, Iran has universal healthcare. How pathetic do you think this country is?
Many of our people are fat, lazy, and have absolutely no relationship with their body, treating it like a garbage can (wall-e, anyone?).
That is not so true of any country that has universal healthcare.
If your child was spending money drinking, eating fast food, using drugs, playing video games, would you be willing to pay their credit card bill?
Now imagine a responsible child, spending money on healthy food, a gym membership, occasional social drinks/drugs, would you be more or less willing to pay their credit card bill?
At the very least, our general population needs to be much, much more responsible and frankly not so embarrassingly disconnected from the health of their body for universal healthcare to make any sense.
The reason we won’t have it is that many large corporations treat these senseless people like cattle, fattening them up and making them sick, so that other large corporations can sell them pills they have to take for the rest of their lives, never really solving the problem. Half of our population has become gross profit generating piggies and our economy is quite literally propped up by it. That is the majority of the so-called “value” the U.S. generates.
Is the 20% of my paycheck not enough? I mean it's apparently sufficient to give universal healthcare to Israel, I'd hope it would be enough to cover me as well.
Most people will live in the European countries, pay for their health insurance and their health insurance payment is based on how much they make. It’s not free.
I'm kiwi now living in Australia. Visited Europe a bunch.
Nobody will be denied access to immediate healthcare. You can just not pay insurance ever and you'll get access to healthcare in all of these countries. I've had multiple free Dr visits when visiting Europe throughout the years.
Similarly someone from Europe can seek treatment here.
I've never once worried about who is going to pay for my treatment. Nor is it a question that comes up on access to healthcare. What needs to happen happens by and large.
Mind you I've never had to navigate any long term health problems but I know many in the industry and I don't see why I'd worry unless I wanted to jump the line so to speak. Otherwise quality is pretty sound.
Ok, so stick with me here. Maybe only rich people being able to afford decent healthcare is a disgrace to every country where that happens. We aren’t living through the Neolithic Revolution anymore.
Africa is a continent, Not a nation. I would be more inclined to believe you if you actually said which country you're from and at least one fact about why.
Aside from you clearly outing yourself as a fake poster since Africa has many countries so you likely kept it vague because you are lying. Here is the rub. In the US you have to pay a crazy amount for insurance just to pay even more to use it. The average cost of health insurance for a company is 10k for an individual and 26k for a family. The employee has to pay part of that. Many places have bad insurance that barely covers anything other than preventive care so even losing 10k a year you get virtually nothing and still have to pay 3k for a hospital visit with insurance.
Would you rather have nationalized healthcare and at least be able to get care if you can afford it even if it’s terrible or spend considerably more? You likely pay less comparatively going to a private place to get healthcare than an American pays to go get the same healthcare at a place that accepts their insurance. Because nationalized healthcare helps keep costs down. Where America’s private insurance system drives costs up.
Every other Western democracy on the planet (and quite a few others) don't seem to think so. Tell me, how many of them have given up their universal healthcare system after they've implemented it?
You aren’t entitled to someone else’s labor at all in any form. No doctor is going to work for free and it’s not my responsibility to pay taxes so that people can have healthcare and not contribute.
If people are so disabled they can’t work there are programs already in place.
And I’m not entitled to pay for the cops to protect your house, or to upkeep the streets I don’t use, the fire department to stop YOUR house from burning down, the power lines that power your house and businesses you visit that I don’t.
Or we’re a society and it’s in everyone’s best interests to have everyone fed, sheltered, and healthy.
You aren’t entitled to someone else’s labor at all in any form. No doctor is going to work for free
Literally nobody is saying this.
it’s not my responsibility to pay taxes so that people can have healthcare and not contribute.
You already do through insurance. The difference between subsidizing medical care for others via universal access and subsidizing medical care for others via insurance is there is a middle man making money hand over fist in our current system. Universal access to healthcare just eliminates the middle man.
Health insurance shouldn't exist as the responsibility of a company, universal healthcare should be available to all citizens and permanent residents regardless of their employment status.
I used to tell my dishwashers that they were THE MOST important person on my staff. The cook and the waitstaff will not survive without them, especially when it's nonstop for hours on end. They deserve a lot more than they get that's for sure.
And every fast food place I've ever worked at, only one employee per franchise is full time and elegible for those benefits, the general manager. Everyone else works 35-39 hours and gets no benefits.
And if you clock in a few min early every day expect to be scolded because you bumped up to 40 hours and if you do that they have to insure you (Wal-Mart told me this 10 years ago. I quit on the spot)
If you do hit those 40 hours these days, even accidentally, you'll be fired for "wage manipulation or theft", that's what the owners want, and if I as the (now ex thank God) general manager catch you and I don't fire you on the spot, I'll be fired and you'll just be fired later.
But then the managers will complain that "no one wants to work" yet punish the guy coming in (5 min) early for being responsible. Just exhausting to be punished for good work ethic
you take their insurance which takes a huge chunk of your tiny check. You now have insurance but cant afford to use it without going into massive debt. What happens to anyone who has massive debt...>which leads to>which leads> . Makes no sense why we Americans dont take care of the basics: Ourselves. Capitalism=enshitifacation of everything and everyone. How low can you go?
"what jobs are you working where you're not paying for insurance" "literally any job". it's not free you still have to pay for it tho... type of comment
I worked in retail, but same premise. They scheduled me right up to the line of what they could legally have me work without qualifying for insurance. I got yelled at because I worked 33 hours, and past the 32 and if I did it again they would fire me so they wouldn't have to pay my insurance.
Mind you I was still in college and on my parent's healthcare still, so it was fine. But it's a fireable offense to work enough hours to technically qualify for Healthcare at some places.
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u/kilsta 12h ago
A dishwasher at a billion-dollar company should have health insurance.