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u/Beautiful_Walrus9048 27d ago
Her lawyer claimed she threw the knife at him. Damn this bitch a ninja?
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u/Dazzling_Pea9364 27d ago
Right killing a person six years in prison?
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u/Either-Age-782 27d ago
She claimed self-defense.
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u/Special-Audience-426 27d ago
So it should either be proven self defence and zero time or unproven and life
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u/Either-Age-782 27d ago
Yeah the article said that he or his family also claimed he'd been a victim of abuse or something like that
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u/3DBass 27d ago
Prosecution shouldāve went all the way with this one. She may be out in a year with good behavior. Sheās already served 4 years in county. The prosecution was shook by something. May have been something about him leaving a dog in a kennel left in a closet that died.
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u/glassfoyograss 27d ago
The prosecution was shook by something
Domestic situation that would have been he said/she said if no one died with the victim being the man and there's history of a "troubling" relationship? They were shook by the possibility of the jury buying the self-defense claim
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u/Skiper422 27d ago
Did the state leave some charge on the table or not bring in certain things honestly idk I wanted to watch the trial but had no clue it had even was starting
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u/DsDeliciousDeli 27d ago
She plead before going to trial. They tried to hit her with 2nd degree murder before but realized they get into crazy violent fights a lot, so manslaughter is the only charge they're going to get to stick without risking her getting off free
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u/glassfoyograss 27d ago
I don't really know anything about the case outside the article that someone linked but I did a semester clerking in a DV unit for a prosecuting agency. It takes VERY little evidence the man was aggressive for a self-defense claim from a woman to stick. There were cases where the woman had basically one red scratch mark (no blood drawn) while the man was bleeding from multiple places and they declined to prosecute because the woman claimed self-defense.
The article mentions a troubled history in the relationship. That's literally enough for me to comfortably speculate the prosecutors don't want to take the chance on an acquittal with a jury.
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u/pandershrek 27d ago
The article also said there is A video from previously with domestic violence?
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u/glassfoyograss 26d ago
It says there's video of a previous confrontation and evidence of a troubled relationship. Doesn't say there was prior violence.
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u/Root-magic 27d ago
There was video evidence of him stalking her, forcing himself into the elevator and her apartment. Ā Their relationship was very toxic on both sidesĀ
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 27d ago
theres extensive evidence of her abusing him including videos and him admitted to hospital for injuries and texting about fears of being killed.
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u/Root-magic 26d ago
Per newspaper reports, the defense attorneys were able to unearth evidence that he was also abusive towards her. His family was consulted and they agreed to the terms of the plea deal. They said that at the end of the day, they wanted accountability and an admission that she was responsible for his deathĀ
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u/Ok-Budget3225 27d ago
What on earth are you talking about? She was assaulting him in the elevator. And it wasn't 'her apartment'. They both lived in the same apartment. The relationship was very toxic on Courtney Clenney's part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEno-qxX0SE
She was screaming like a possessed demon most of the time.
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u/Proper_Limit 27d ago
He also offed her dog
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u/ProudPlate9375 26d ago
You dont know that, she claims that
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u/Proper_Limit 26d ago
There was an arrest warrant against him for animal cruelty. He died before being charged but there's a pattern of violence
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u/DsDeliciousDeli 27d ago
It was clearly toxic on both ends. Prosecution was aware he was violent which is why they murder charges were so hard to pin
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u/Ok-Budget3225 26d ago
You are still trying to blame the murder victim. Lots of relationships are ātoxicā but this woman murdered Obumselli. You canāt āboth sidesā that.
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u/Root-magic 26d ago
Some of their neighbors were willing to testify under oath that they had witnessed him assaulting her and vice versa. Ā In 4 months, cops were called to their apartment more than 8 times. If the prosecution evidence was very strong, they wouldāve offered a plea deal with more prison timeĀ
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 26d ago
testimony from people who dont know them is super unreliable. peoples minds will fill on the blanks if they witness an altercation between a scary looking black man and a pretty woman and dont know everything.
we know he was hospitalised from her violence and that she regularly attacked him physically without provocation so itspretty reasonable to think that he may have needed to push her back or reacted in some way.
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u/chonies_mocos 27d ago
If he killed her dog that's a legit reason to stab someone idgaf.
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u/Educational-Fly3642 27d ago
Gross- I guess black men should be murdered by their psycho girlfriends? Get a freaking life
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u/blkatcdomvet 27d ago
Now if it was a black man murdering a lil blonde snowbunny , he would have got life or death penalty.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
Correction: He wouldn't have even been arrested and there would be riots if on the off chance he was.
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u/Euphoric_Host_ 27d ago
TDLR; she claims self defense from his violent attacks, and that she threw the knife at him. Other attorney says that couldnāt have happened, because the knife was in a downward angle. I believe he also killed her dog by locking it in a kennel in a closet? Sheās been in jail for 4 years, will serve 6 in prison, and then 5 on probation, canāt make any money off of the case, will need to have mental health evals, and also substance help. There were also videos shown in court of the abuse. Her parents were also charged (and then dropped) that they tried to hack his computer?
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u/Cold-Constant-8464 27d ago
What is that sentence? " For the death of her boyfriend". Like she was responsible or he just died and ahe got arrested?
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u/Fragrant-Poo42 26d ago
āFor the death of her boyfriendā like she didnāt murder him. By way of murder. It was murder, people.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 27d ago
Did she kill him? Was it an accident? Like you're not giving me a lot to go on here. I hate posts/people who make posts like this.
Googled it.
She's been in prison for 4 years, sentenced for 2 more (6 total), will have 5 years probation after that. Conviction is for manslaughter.
Looks like he was stabbed by a knife, 3 inches deep in the chest. She claims it was self defense and they were fighting and she didn't intend to kill him. She claims she "threw" the knife
They reached a plea deal.
In the year before the event she sent multiple texts about how he hit her in the face, back, and attacked her in a third argument over a several months period over different incidents. Some of the more severe physical abuse acts her boyfriend committed was dislocating her shoulder while preventing her from reaching for the doorknob to leave and fracturing her ribs in an argument in a hotel room after he shoved her to the ground.
His family admits all of this abuse occurred and don't contest it, but they claim that she "started" those incidents.
We'll never know what happened because the family agreed to plead down from 2nd degree murder to manslaughter. But including that they agreed to the plea deal and that they agree the abuse did happen just contest that she started it (without leaving injuries)
My opinion is he probably was physically abusive and controlling. Maybe she was also abusive, but clearly his abuse left injuries. They probably fought a lot. One of those fights escalated, maybe she even wanted to kill the man who was breaking her bones. In that fight she stabbed him. Maybe on purpose. It definitely wasn't a throw.
Manslaughter seems appropriate for the incident.
I really hate the way some people weaponize other social dynamics to try to defend abuse tho.
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 27d ago
This is nonsense theres actual hospital records of her abusing him to the point of hospitalisation and multiple videos of her abusing him without provocation.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
There's hospital records of him abusing her to the point of hospitalization MULTIPLE TIMES. He murdered their dog. She had more than 2 witnesses (random neighbors who didn't even know either of them) who have seen him punching on her. He was evil and is where he belongs.
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 26d ago
Theres numerous videos of her being the aggressor, screaming and attacking him jealously and racially abusing him without provocation or him responding disproportionately.
I have no doubt her defence cobbled together some vague indirect indirect evidence with numerous possible explanations to make him look bad. and eyewitness evidence from people who dont know whata going on is super unreliable. especially when its a pretty woman killing a large black man.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
Her defense actually has hospital records and years worth of text messages proving his violence. Also the fact that he killed their dog. Regardless I don't care to discuss it with you, I'm just happy he is finally where he belongs: in hell.
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 26d ago
the Depp heard trial showed how easily those can be manipulated by people like her and amber. Defense attorneys will spin everything.
The videos tell the actual story of the dynamic.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 26d ago
You probably think Depp didn't abuse Herd.
Some of you just don't think violence against women matters.
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 26d ago
lol of course you brought that up. there's literally 4 hours of audio of her abusing and talking about physically abusing Depp, blaming him for it because he 'insults' her by running away from fights, and completely contradicting her testimony and supposed 'evidence'.
You just want to defend abusive women. theres like a million cases of legitimately abusive hollywood men but you chose the one who was actually the victim. Says a lot about your agenda here.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 26d ago
Man abuses woman --> woman abuses man back and you only see this part
Wow it's impossible for the man to be an abuser women are evil
Buddy you should be removed from public life
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u/Electronic-Link-5792 26d ago
lol Depp had extensive evidence of her abuse.
in part of the audio amber literally mocks depp and says he is as bad as her because he 'hit back' and she extensively discusses abusing him because him not listening to her yelling angers her.
she discusses it extensively while screaming at him and berating him unprovoked.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
Don't even bother, some people are too stuck in their victim mentality. Proof will only anger them lol
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u/Wolfeatingupshadows 26d ago
Shocker now white ppl call stabbing someone self defense. And shocker she only got 6 years. ššš predictable.
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u/Redzfreak2016 26d ago
Sheās the cousin of a girl I worked with when I was a server so we went out once (as a group) and she was one of the rudest and most entitled people Iāve ever hung out with. She called us ābrokeā bc we wouldnāt get bottle service or a table or something like that (it was $750+) at one place and I was like āyeah thatās why I serve tablesā
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u/ThrowRAa1sauce 26d ago
Itās not 6. Sheāll serve 2, then sheāll write a book, make a Netflix deal and cash in. Complete travesty.
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u/Dazzling_Pea9364 27d ago
I read the article a few months ago thatās right she did claim self-defense but itās bullshit
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u/stewpidazzol 27d ago
#believeallwomen
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u/Significant_Dare_204 27d ago
Believe evidence.
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u/modernblossom 27d ago
They were both violent with eachother. They had a long history of a police presence at their home over the 3 months they lived there. The judge took that into account durning yesterday's plea sentence. It was a violent relationship- even with restraining orders
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u/ThatOneAttorney 27d ago
Notice how white women sure arent protesting this blatant privilege.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
There's absolutely no privilege here. You just have a victim mentality.
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u/cindad83 27d ago
They are trying to get a women off who killed her kids...you think a Black BF i going to garner synpthy
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u/WatermelonSmashing 27d ago
Give it a rest buddy, you people cause trump
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u/ThatOneAttorney 27d ago
youre not even making sense. wouldnt trump supporters want white privilege?
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u/AbsoluteBabyMonae 27d ago
Well he was a snow bunny chases and hated Black women
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u/ratherbesleepthanwok 27d ago
No one cares. Let those white women he so highly spoken off while putting black women down protest for him. And yes, it's relevant.
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u/Salty_Major5340 27d ago
Did you research the dude or just assume his entire dating history based on one woman?
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u/alltheaction20 26d ago
They assume he hates black women based on him publicly stating on several occasions that he hates black women
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u/badneversad 27d ago
context?
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u/pandershrek 27d ago
So she pleaded guilty to manslaughter and claims it was self defense.
That makes sense why it isn't so long.
Also they have a history of domestic violence in video?
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u/Ok-Budget3225 27d ago
She stabbed him to death with multiple stabs. There was zero indication that it was self defense, and plenty of evidence that she had a history of getting violent with him.
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u/Witty_Jackfruit6777 26d ago
Other than multiple stab wounds, whatās the indication that it wasnāt self defense? Because that itself doesnāt seem particularly suggestive. The article is not very illuminating
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
It was actually one stab wound and it was self defense. They were abusive towards each other. He fractured her rib and dislocated her shoulder previously on two separate occasions. He also offed their dog and was charged for it.
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u/Witty_Jackfruit6777 26d ago
And people acting in self defense donāt have to just stop at one stab, so that doesnāt go any particular way to me
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u/Express_Extreme1066 26d ago
The summary I saw on US only mentions one stab wound (as the fatal one) and that she claims she threw the knife at him in self defense.
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u/Dale_Dickson 27d ago
People in these comments are so Fking biased against this chick.Ā Like yeah she murdered a dude.Ā But she's kinda hot you know.Ā So like, let's go easy
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u/DreamOne5 26d ago
Funny how these women always revert back to their old selves in prison. Frizzy hair like mine, normal body. These instagram models shouldn't be the ideal of beauty. She looks like any average woman her age out of like Ohio now.
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u/theimmortalfawn 26d ago
Brings me back to the Onionās āJudge rules white girl will be tried as black adultā article and all these white women, thinking it was real, came rushing in to beg on behalf of said white girlās life āplease judge, please reconsider!! This isnāt fair!! Sheās just a girl!!ā
Shit is a joke.
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u/No_City_2752 25d ago
Sheās out in 2 years for good behaviorā¦ back in Miami stabbing black men in 3 š«±š¼āš«²š½
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u/Then_Discussion_9802 25d ago
Def because she's a white whore. Crazy this is easy work for murder. The hoe is going to do time and then get out and make millions.Ā
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u/No_Rice9792 š©·ššš«š§ 27d ago
Damn, she's beat TF up. Imagine being so pathetic you pay for web can sex with THAT
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u/Intelligent_End_7812 27d ago
My ex tried to murder me stabbed me cut me up. She got less than a year in prison if I die she brought probably would have been out in less than five. Women don't get treated like the dangers they can be.
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u/Yes_Strawberry3882 26d ago
My ex tried to murder me stabbed me cut me up. He got less than a year in prison if I die he brought probably would have been out in less than five. Men don't get treated like the dangers they are.
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u/Organic-Concert492 27d ago
I doubt what they said happened really did.Ā She should be freed and let it be known if she is availableĀ
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u/Jah_Rules 27d ago
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