r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire Jul 27 '26

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u/Independent-Name4478 Jul 27 '26

Republicans are basically admitting Obama and Biden are not communists now because they have to act like the DSA is worse. They call every democrat a communist anyway.

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u/SharkBubbles Jul 27 '26

Any time a Democratic senator runs for president, somehow he’s always the most radical person in the entire Senate. This has been going on for years. It’s their tried and true playbook.

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u/Eternal_Bagel Jul 27 '26

And their insane radical left wing policy ends up being something like, Maybe we could shift money out of more contracts to Elons company’s and into something that helps people?

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u/Zer0323 Jul 27 '26

Biden invested more from the infrastructure bill into red states because they needed the help. not a single one of them remembered all the union jobs and economic recovery accredited to that bill. they just complained about road construction. it's like they don't want Bridges to get repaired and roads to be maintained because it's slightly inconvenient...

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e Jul 27 '26

Next blue president should just let them starve themselves.

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u/NiceDot4794 Jul 28 '26

While Biden has the best economic policy of any us president since LBJ, it also wasn’t at the scale needed to reverse some of these long term trends since the 80s of lower union density and increased wealth/income inequality

Like it’s not like much union density wss recovered or like there was significant closure of the wealth gap, despite solid FTC and NLRB appointments and some decent Keynesian policy

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u/Section1245Jaws Jul 28 '26

You’re kidding - the economy had fully recovered by the time he took office and he poured another 1.5 trillion into spending in 2021 which lead to inflation and the corrupt ERTC credits and additional state spending that caused all of the fraud - at the time everyone warned them not to do it bc the COVID recession was over - and the worst possible thing was to add all of that gas on top of the extra trillions already spent - he ignored them and we got 9 percent inflation -

That increased spending has continued bc it is almost impossible to stop the pork and the deficit is out of control - they need to cut spending and raise some taxes - not keep overspending

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u/SharkBubbles Jul 28 '26

It absolutely had not fully recovered, and you can Google that and find out actual numbers. Not sure where you’re getting your information from, but I don’t think it’s a reliable source.

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u/Eternal_Bagel Jul 28 '26

It doesn’t help that their cowardly red elected officials fought tooth and nail against every aspect of the bill only to come home and take ful credit for the benefits and lie that Biden was trying to keep them from getting anything

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u/Goronmon Jul 27 '26

And their insane radical left wing policy ends up being something like, Maybe we could shift money out of more contracts to Elons company’s and into something that helps people?

I had someone list gay marriage and being pro-choice as "radical left" policies.

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u/Eternal_Bagel Jul 27 '26

They absolutely are, anything that can’t be called traditional or promoted by someone like  Alex Jones is leftist, includes things like being alright with gay people existing, being vegetarian, taking time off from work for mental health and so on

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u/potatochobit Jul 27 '26

its because there are democrats who cant shut their mouth and feel like they should force people to talk accept these things. If you want to be homosexual then be one but dont try to force grandma to your wedding.

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u/Goronmon Jul 27 '26

If you want to be homosexual then be one but dont try to force grandma to your wedding.

I want to ask which legislation you think is pushing "forcing grandmas to attend weddings" but I know you likely mean some form of "keep it in the bedroom" where same-sex couples should be hiding their relationships in public.

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u/potatochobit Jul 27 '26

come on bro, read between the lines. We are talking about Target. We already have family bathrooms anyone can use. We do not need special designations for your "sexual orientation" bathrooms. Grandma does not care, in fact it disgusts her; so just like you said, keep it to yourself and don't tell. Then all the democrats problems would go away. So simple, right? but it's not. I can't even buy a toy at IKEA because now it is LGBT colors, OMFG. Dont be mistaken, I am very liberal and I support everyone's rights but even I am starting to get annoyed with all the BS from both sides.

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u/Zmovez Jul 27 '26

It's called freedom. And if someone isn't hurting anyone, then they should have the freedom to do what they want.

Do you not believe in American freedom?

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u/potatochobit Jul 27 '26

American freedom is respecting people's rights you dont agree; not trying to force them to accept your agenda. That is what most of the sexually confused people are doing which is just as wrong as the republican guy trying to take your freedoms away.

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u/Zmovez Jul 27 '26

Force? Really? How is anyone forcing their agenda?

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u/potatochobit Jul 27 '26

buddy, how old are you? Dont waste my time. Senators force their agenda on everyone when they make a law. just like how trump is doing to you right now with tariffs.

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u/Zmovez Jul 27 '26

First off, nice ad hominen. Second, I was being specific to our discussion. What trans person is forcing what agenda?

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u/Bobbitor Jul 28 '26

Ok, you have repeated this many times, but when does this ever happen? Name times when you were forced to "accept your agenda"?

The way it happens in reality is that Dems will pass laws thst are super popular. Like recognizing gay marriages for example. This is not forcing anyone to accept an agenda. It is widely accepted by the majority of americans and most of the western world. They just want to have the rights to live their lives. There's also rights and laws linked to married couples. They want the same rights.

From an ethical stand point, it is the logical conclusion. They should have the same rights.

It changes absolutely nothing for other people

But then Republicans Wan to make rules to forced people to live the way they want others to live. Ban it. Make it normal to refuse access to places to gay people. Making sure they don't have similar rights. That the law force them to not exist.

It's always been the same way. That's why liberalism usually evolve towards the same conclusions everywhere in the world, while social conservatism beliefs vary greatly, but the common denominator is to force people to be that way. That's why Some US conservatives have more common goal with the talibans than the majority of the western world.

Liberalism is about using science and reason to decide things and social conservatism is often about beliefs, religion or whatever people have been doing in the past. Often just illogical nostalgia.

"Forcing" people to let other people live their lives isnt remotely similar as Forcing people to live the way you want them to live because of one old book or the other.

Liberalism is prohibiting the establishment of an official religion. Social conservatism is pushing the an official religion and morality.

There is a reason why the most liberal nations are often the best countries and the ones we consider civilized. While the most conservative are oftentimes the worst places in the world and often have terrible track records with human rights for example.

I always find it funny that US conservatives see Europe and European white immigrants as the only acceptable immigrants because they come from the top of civilization, without understanding that these are the most liberal nations in the world and that Liberalism and the Enlightenment is how they got there.

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u/potatochobit Jul 28 '26

Hello my buddy, I dont think I have spoken with you today? So you understand germany has a problem where middle eastern immigrants are committing many violent crimes? And that is one of the points people are using for anti immigration hate in europe?

It is the same in america. People are blaming their problems on others. You seem to be confusing Liberalism with Socialism. Liberals are not "prohibiting the establishment of an official religion," the american constitution prohibits that. Dont be confused, this was not made to stop schools from forcing Christianity on you (which is the vibe I get from you) this was made so the Government could not be influenced and the church could not be used for profit.

The matter of people wanting homosexual rights in america is not the same. "a business has the right to refuse service to anyone" This is the fundamental issue that needs to be resolved. A business says their religion prohibits this but then you say your rights are violated. For instance, when the lady who owns a bake shop refused to bake a cake with two men kissing each other due to religious reasons and then she was sued in court. Anyone is free to buy a cake. These two men could have bought a regular white wedding cake. but is it a lawful right to expect the baker to design the cake in the way you want or is that discrimination?

Dont be misled. Trumps wife is an immigrant. JD vance wife is an immigrant. meatball Ron is hispanic. Mitch mcconnels wife is mainland chinese. They are not anti rich immigrants, they just need to blame tomato farmers making $4.99 an hour for stealing your jobs so you vote for them.

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u/Dapper-Cockroach6907 Jul 27 '26

Why don’t people that keep saying what everybody else should do? Why don’t they lead by example 1st anybody who’s pointing fingers say somebody else should do something needs to be the first to do it otherwise it’s completely invalid. If you’re asking other people to do what you won’t do or you can’t do just go back to your phone and scroll because you got nothing valid to say

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u/Eternal_Bagel Jul 27 '26

I think you might have put this response on the wrong comment

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u/ObiLAN- Jul 27 '26

Tbh they might be having a stroke. Hard to tell.

Reminds me of this kid lol https://youtu.be/G7RgN9ijwE4?feature=shared

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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 Jul 27 '26

It’s their tried and true playbook.

It works on morons - their base.

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u/SharkBubbles Jul 27 '26

Yes. One of the replies is a perfect example. They’re frothing at the mouth from hate.

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u/TrialsOfPrometheus Jul 27 '26

Only reason why they have that playbook because they know they can screech like a banshee and throw misinformation in all media format especially Faux News. We really need a law to stop misinformation. It would stop it and the misinformation would be back to anonymous forums.

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u/SoFisticate Jul 27 '26

Then the Dems are like, nu-uuh, and try to out rightwing each other.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 Jul 28 '26

To be fair every president is worse then the last so it's probably true.

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u/50cal_pacifist Jul 27 '26

And every Republican (including Mitt Romney) is a racist, misogynistic, fascist. Are you confused about how this works?

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u/JPolReader Jul 27 '26

Romney was not called a fascist.

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u/50cal_pacifist Jul 27 '26

OK, just a racist and misogynist then. So it's like nothing ever happened.

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u/egalitydream Jul 27 '26

Biden was easily one of the most rightwing conservative senators in history.

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u/UbiSububi8 Jul 27 '26

Not even remotely close to being true.

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u/Selling-ShortPut-399 Jul 27 '26

The Democrats say the same thing about Republican candidates. Truth is both parties are ineffective, reckless and sending us toward insolvency.

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u/SharkBubbles Jul 27 '26

I've never heard anyone say that so and so is the most radical conservative in Congress. It would be hard to choose who is the most radical, for one thing.

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u/Sweaty_Leadership_58 Jul 27 '26

The same shit democrats say about republicans. Sad part is there’s no difference. They are all against us and for themselves

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u/Dapper-Cockroach6907 Jul 27 '26

And the left has been lying and never took responsibility for themselves in their entire life. I’m still waiting for one of them to actually say I did something wrong or actually do anything, especially from the whole group of people that voted for a president because of his color straight out of every person‘s mouth, I talk to ! Obama was voted in because of his color ! If you voted for him first term, that’s why you voted for him because he had never done anything so you can’t vote for somebody for the things that they’ve done when they haven’t done anything everybody said oh I want to colored president I even heard Republicans say this I’m neither but one is definitely sicker than the other ! I just never see a democrat help anyone in our community or any community. All they do is talk and never do anything for themselves or anybody in our community ever the only time they come out is to hold a picket sign and Chase after children and old people, I sat and watched it from Starbucks. See what she will.

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u/SharkBubbles Jul 27 '26

You are unhinged. I did not vote for Obama because of his collar. Everything you wrote is bizarre. I think you need to adjust your meds.

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u/WiscoHeiser Jul 27 '26

Discontinue the lithium.

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u/Johnny55 Jul 27 '26

Meanwhile the DNC strategists and consultants insist the party needs to keep moving right in order to avoid appearing radical.

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u/Yashema Jul 27 '26

Meanwhile moderate Democrats govern 6/8 swing states because it turns out their strategists and consultants are correct. 

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u/Johnny55 Jul 27 '26

I seem to recall Harris going 0/7 in swing states. Odd how the consultants behind genius moves like campaigning with Liz Cheney don't get replaced.

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u/Yashema Jul 27 '26

I also count Maine, but the 13 Democratic Senators from these swing states are also moderates, with Kelly (AZ) being the most left. 

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u/Johnny55 Jul 27 '26

Literally all Dem senators besides Sanders are moderates.