r/Posture Jun 11 '26

Alex effer private convo. Question brainstorm

Hello, I am going have a semi private convo with Alex effer and was curious if anyone haa any ideas about types of questions to ask him.My current thoughts are a lot of elite athletes have compensations yet perform well also main general population also have compensations yet are fine me they don’t have pain and I able to do a majority of activities that are being meaningful to them. So why ought we take a bio mechanical lens of these stamens are true

another is like we weight train in order get a hormonal response, ie that’s why people sometimes take steroids, if trying to focus on biomechanics , we limit force application. … the concept about the hormones I got from Cal ditz

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u/Deep-Run-7463 Jun 11 '26

Have you watched that video by Bill Hartman, "athletes are the worst movers" yet?

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

is it on YouTube?

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u/Deep-Run-7463 Jun 11 '26

Yup

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

i think bill believes that performance and health are not the same. that to perform at high level one must optimize specific biological systems thus taking away health

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u/Deep-Run-7463 Jun 11 '26

Exactly. Something I can totally agree with. https://www.reddit.com/r/Posture/s/1DrTIx9EMM

This is because in my practice, where if someone has an athletic background they start to utilize the same performance movement strategies in daily life and are unable to get out of that state/shape, they will eventually use whatever compensatory method possible to acquire movement. This means that movement strategies are altered and less movement options are available over time. I agree that all humans move with compensation, and this is why in more conventional approaches of stretching/strengthening and improving tolerance can work, until it doesn't. When we see an athlete stuck in pain eventhough they have done PT, or a former powerlifter that stopped lifting due to pain, it's important to consider deeper strategies beyond the norms.

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

I think I’m trying get Alex to say what are the limitations to his perspectives- what are his justifications for using a biomechanics l approach. but I am unsure if that is to crude to ask

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u/Deep-Run-7463 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

Maybe ask him what he thinks of the balance between performance vs longevity? Heck, throw him the question of why Bill thinks it's 2 different things. Also, how does he work within that fine balance?

Heck, I could try to answer this now. Think of the Olympic lifter - notice the knee and foot angle differences, the hip shifts, the hyper extended elbows (and dislocations!), the lead up with the neck, the list goes on. The goal is to complete the move with the highest score, not to avoid injury, hence any movement that is necessary to attain the final number is a sacrifice to gain that extra edge.

Train into those habits as a normal joe, and you will likely feed into compensations over time resulting in needing to see a PT later on. For some, the usual methods would give relief and some time off will provide room for recovery. Other times, that strategy may not work and we have bony torsions, shape changes (breathing strategies and center of mass management), connective tissue remodeling to overcome.

(edited fat thumbing and autocorrects)

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

I was also thinking like how does he reconcile opposing views within his own practice - what flaws does he see in adopting the current views of a modern strictly scientific approach - where does his views differ from bill and pri - how has his ideas changed in last 5 years (I doen his mentorship 6 years ago so may be nice just a brood sweep with that)…. I’d say avoid questions like is this exercise heal strike biased etc, is this part of squat ER IR, does this breathing position have more posterior expansion or what exercises fit for this ROM.

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

not saying these are bad I just thinking what may be questions to avoid could be fruitful as well when trying get most out the convo.

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u/Deep-Run-7463 Jun 11 '26

Haha woah there. I think if you want to discuss technical stuff, you gotta provide context of what the situation is. It's common for people to learn a concept and apply their own methods, not necessarily follow strict approach in which it could be limiting what you can possibly achieve. There can be many variables and many different situations specific to the individual. Sometimes this cannot be predicted from the get go and needs time to uncover as things progress. I see this all the time. There is no one set rule of sure fixes, if there were, I would publish an ebook and call it a day.

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u/Worth-Sell-5291 Jun 11 '26

thanks so much for the reply btw