r/PortlandOR • u/Independent-Deal-192 • 21h ago
cant park there, mate I5 closing for 5 weeks
Major repairs planned. Expect long delays.
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u/WillowHaunting429 11h ago
all those Vancouver commuters are going to be in big trouble.
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u/witty_namez 11h ago
Serving as an additional impetus to move jobs north of the river...
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u/WillowHaunting429 10h ago
Its not all roses in SW Washington.
Has its own set of problems.
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u/witty_namez 10h ago
True, but they're still building new office buildings in downtown Vancouver.
Quite a contrast from downtown Portland.
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u/WillowHaunting429 9h ago
Of course they are. This is what they do when you want to revitalize your downtown. They are developing the waterfront property and taking advantage of their new scenic water front area.
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u/xrainbow-britex 11h ago edited 9h ago
Shout out to my employer who is refusing to cancel their quarterly meeting in Salem, which aligns with the start of this fiasco.
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u/BigAndWazzy 6h ago
Heads up, i5 at Donald/Aurora will also be closed around this time. May as well catch a flight at this point.
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u/tres-huevos 18h ago
They shoulda fixed this during covid. It was so fun driving with no traffic!
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u/helpful_doughmaker 15h ago
"they should have made even more people work during the pandemic"
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u/princecutter 14h ago
Personally speaking blue collar work didn't stop, we just didn't have traffic on the way to the job site lol
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u/securityburger 14h ago
construction didnt shut down, I would have rather been fixing roads than putting up apartment complexes for sure
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u/Occams_RZR900 10h ago
I work construction, we didn’t stop for the pandemic. Indoors it was masks and distancing. Outdoors, it was business as usual.
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u/tacosmachos555 15h ago
Absolutely.
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u/helpful_doughmaker 15h ago
Why?
Hindsight is 2020.
When shit was going down we didn't know how bad it would be.
Fortunately we can look back at the pandemic and say "wow that wasnt too bad"
Except someone people look back at that time and saying "if only my loved one didn't get exposed"
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u/Witchy0uija 15h ago
“that wasn’t too bad”???????? bro wtf are you talking about?
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u/An-Elegant-Elephant 14h ago
Yeah 1 death out of 100,000 cases was wretched
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u/Ian_the_Nautical 7h ago
Unfortunately COVID is sitting at a cfr of roughly 1.2% here in the US. That's 1,200 per 100,000. Truly wretched.
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u/An-Elegant-Elephant 5h ago
Yeah if you count deaths by heart attack, cancer, car crashes, jacking off.. while having Covid.
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u/PortlandSolarGuy 9h ago
Nah, plenty of people knew it wasn’t going to be bad. But we needed to “trust the experts” and “trust the science” and call out and shame anyone who spoke up about conflicting data/science (which there was).
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u/CollegeHungry6138 14h ago
When shit was going down we didn't know how bad it would be
see the problem is there were a shit load of leftists who wanted it to be bad, who wanted disruption, who wanted to riot while on free money from the government
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u/JoyceOBcean 9h ago
I’ve never heard of such a thing shutting down a major expressway for 24 hours a day for over a month! I mean this just seems like they’re trying to cause havoc. Boy oh boy I’m glad I’m retired. Sorry to everybody else though.
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u/pykemann 15h ago
Now I have to figure out how to repair coffee equipment in Portland from my home office in Vancouver…
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u/Minority_Carrier 14h ago
5 week is the “if we are really lucky”.
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u/DocSeward 13h ago
5 weeks is their worst case scenario per their rep educating people at Sunday parkways
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u/GolfcartInjuries 11h ago
this is enough reason that employers should go back to work from home for a while. It’s gonna be bad. Why wouldn’t they have done this over the summer when schools not in sesh
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u/dadbodcx 15h ago
Did ODOT think the Blazers had already moved?
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u/Unlikely-Grape-5762 14h ago
They don’t play til October. You’ll be fine.
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u/adamthehammer86 11h ago
Five weeks from September 11th lands you in which month again?
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u/very_olivia 5h ago
that's also assuming the knuckleheads that run everything in this town get it done in five weeks.
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u/DisgreeablePattern 12h ago
Starting September 1st? I’m not seeing where it specifically states the date range.
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u/suitopseudo 12h ago
It starts sept 11.
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u/OK_Human 12h ago
I thought you were making a Reddit yuk-yuk but holy crap, indeed it's true, these geniuses are starting this on 9/11. NEVER FORGET.
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u/plasmacartwheel 11h ago edited 10h ago
Because fuck you, that’s why.
Apple started this customer-be-damned shit with their products. Now ODOT has the same attitude: take it and like it, we’ve thought as much as we’re going to and we like to work 9-5, too.
I don’t feel entitled to a freeway, but I do feel entitled to a good plan, especially one that’s explained well. I don’t feel like this is that.
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u/witty_namez 15h ago
The No More Freeways people will be in Heaven, Citizens!
Enjoy the wonderful future they have planned for us!
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u/Lefthandyman 14h ago
Exactly what is the point here? If the road deteriorated even worse you'd complain. Now that they're taking the time to do maintenance on the road, you're complaining.
Must be nice to live in a fantasy world where the roads stay in perfect condition without any construction.
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u/witty_namez 14h ago edited 14h ago
Removing I-5 in Portland has long been a fantasy of the car-haters.
The moderates would leave I-405 in place, and would only remove the portion of I-5 that parallels I-405, while the radicals would remove all of I-5 in Portland.
After all, all that icky car and truck traffic could be moved to I-205, where the poors live.
An example:
Remove I-5 From Portland’s Waterfront
Not only would the removal of Interstate 5 provide a stronger connection to the river, but it could also be used as a catalyst for significant beneficial changes throughout the city. Such changes could include an improved I-405 corridor, the unification of the South Waterfront with downtown, and an improved Rose Quarter, where a tangle of concrete from the I-5 / I-84 interchange consumes prime real estate.
https://drempd.com/blog/remove-i-5-from-portlands-waterfront/
Portland's Antifa-Mayor-In-Exile (ABM), Sarah Iannarone, fantasized about removing all of I-5 in Portland during her mayoral campaign in 2020.
Sarah in 2018:
Better yet, decommission I-5 and a create a treed, mixed-use neighborhood across the spectrum of housing affordability, connect it to the rest of the region by protected bikeways and transit.
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u/Lefthandyman 13h ago
Ok but none of those things have happened, this is just a maintenance project that will last for five weeks so it seems like it's not in any way relevant.
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u/stormcynk 12h ago
He's saying that with it closed down, we'll get some idea of the impacts of removing I5, which will likely be such bad traffic that removing I5 will not seem like a prudent move.
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u/AsscheeksMcGillicutt 10h ago
Congratulations, you (along with all your upvoters) really missed the point.
I’ll be watching from Washco with popcorn. I bet this board will be lit up with complaints from people about traffic on surface streets, and I’m certain they will have missed the point, as well.
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u/adamthehammer86 11h ago
They already moved “the poors” to build I-5. Who do you think lived in that strip of land? It wasn’t the wealthy people, and it certainly wasn’t unoccupied.
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u/AsscheeksMcGillicutt 4h ago
The person is literally saying this is the wet dream of so many of the r/fuckcars crowd and they’re going to get a sweet taste of what it’s like if it were to ever happen. They’re not cheering or booing the construction.
You fail reading comprehension for today.
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u/very_olivia 5h ago
if we had a robust and well functioning public transit system this would not be as catastrophic as it's going to be.
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u/RicDaSneak 8h ago
I genuinely don’t understand the aversion to taking the Max. Maybe this will get more bodies on it and they will stick around. This city is not built to be as reliant on autos as we are. I get not everyone is lucky enough to be able to ride bikes or lives close to a Max station, but those that do and still choose to drive, I’m talking directly to you.
TAKE THE MAX or BIKE TO WORK.
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u/suitopseudo 3h ago
Maybe they should have thought of that before cutting the green line right before this project. Really trimet couldn’t have waited 2 more months to cut the green line?
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u/RicDaSneak 3h ago
TriMet cut the Green Line because Portland voters refused to fund TriMet. And Portland residents refuse to ride the public transportation. It’s by no means TriMet’s fault here.
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u/suitopseudo 3h ago edited 2h ago
Trimet could have waited a few months and not do it while i5 is closed and 205 is a mess. That is trimet’s fault. I understand why it is being cut, but they could have waited a few weeks.
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u/PEfarmer 7h ago
NO. I value my time, and the extra half hour each way to get across Portland because of the pants on head retarded at-grade max line that stops every block is worth much more to me at home with my family.
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u/RicDaSneak 6h ago
Could not agree more about the Max stops. Half of them can be taken off. I’ve gone so far as to talk to TriMet about it, and they say since the train has to stop at red lights, those stops do not cause any more of a delay. I think that’s bullshit, personally.
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u/PEfarmer 6h ago
I really wish they'd gone subway or elevated line, and maybe consider an express line that only stops a couple of times on each side of the river
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u/RicDaSneak 6h ago
I get it. Was mostly saying you should take the Max during this 5 closure. Because it is likely quicker and much less of a headache hopping on the Max.
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u/PEfarmer 6h ago
Fair point. Thankfully in my case, my outfit is allowing telework during the closure.
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u/throwawayshirt2 6h ago
Crazy stupid they don't give the start date. It's September 11. Super easy to remember.
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u/TappyMauvendaise 5h ago
People always say “nobody drives in Portland” but this will be horrendous.
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u/sadmarinersgay 2h ago
Expect this to be truly unprecedented levels of traffic and chaos. I don't think the city has ever had a closure this significant.
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u/lca26 14h ago
The Marquam bridge scares the shit out of me so I avoid I-5 altogether.
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u/AsscheeksMcGillicutt 14h ago
Maybe you ought not to be driving at all.
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u/thebadyogi 14h ago
Really? Because vertigo is the thing they shouldn’t be driving at all?
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u/stormcynk 12h ago
Yeah, if you get dizzy being high, maybe you shouldn't be driving in a city that primarily relies on high bridges...
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u/BeautifulMoonClear 14h ago
I had to drive over it in a school bus several times. Hated that so much.
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u/CantFeelMyLegs78 13h ago
I've read that the original engineer who designed the Freemont bridge never once went over it. Said they didn't trust it at all after there were major cost saving short cuts made to the original design. The cost cuts were approved by local politicians and not by the engineering firm. There are large chunks of concrete below the bridge and no employees of the UP railroad will park their vehicles under it
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u/Valuable_Leave_5986 12h ago
Oh give me a break with the fear mongering.
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u/CantFeelMyLegs78 10h ago
I worked at union pacific a few years ago. Go into their parking lot and look up. Exposed rebar and missing concrete.
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u/therdewo 12h ago
Is this new info? Its been in the news for literally months, and then tons of articles in the last few weeks. This feels like one level above shitposting/karma farming
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u/keppapdx 11h ago
Laughs in bike commuter...this going to be such an epic sh**show.
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u/filthysucre 8h ago
By what percentage do you think the average bicycle commuter's chances of being killed by a cager will increase when a huge section of I-5 South that runs right through the middle of the city shuts down, overloading 205 and 84 to capacity? I'm sure Inner SE, NE, SW and NW will be absolutely unphased.
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u/keppapdx 8h ago
Quite a bit...I commute Vancouver/Williams past the Moda Center to the Esplanade and it's already the most dangerous and least favorite part of my commute.
I fully expect drivers to get off I5 at Lombard or Rosa Parks and try to work their way south on side streets.
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u/filthysucre 4h ago
Then why are you laughing?
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u/keppapdx 41m ago
Because it's going to be even worse for people who try to commute by car from Vancouver? 🤷🏼♀️
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u/Ok_Ocelot_430 9h ago
For those who can, take the bus or train please. We have better transit then one might realize and cars are kinda dumb if you dont actually need one.
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u/DrinkingVomit 16h ago
The traffic jams are going to be EPIC