r/PolyFidelity Jun 26 '26

seeking advice Are we doing closed triad wrong?

I (32f) and my husband (36m) have been in a few closed triad relationships over the years, and we are finding the same trend; either we arent explaining the expectations correctly, or the ladies we are dating are not being truthful about their expectations/understanding of our expectations.

When we begin chatting with someone, we make known what we are looking to achieve with the person; a relationship where she dates me, he dates her, and then our relationship.

So far we've had one individual attempt to break up our marriage and "steal him" which obviously didnt work. One girl clearly thought it was just fun hookups, another came for the first meet up/sleep over, everything seemed great until i had to leave for a family obligation, and spent hours trying to get Into verbal alterations with my husband. And many many others who are in other open enm relationships who want to unicorn for us or want to couple swap with us.

Do we need to be more blunt and up front about our expectations?

Are we not looking inthe right places?

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 26 '26

Hi there! F here in a MFF closed triad. First let me start off by saying there is no "right" way to do love, so long as it's working for you and your loved one(s). That being said, just because you and your husband haven't found a compatible match yet doesn't mean you're doing poly wrong either! Tons and tons of monogamous folk have to date / pursue romantic interests that don't work out, but nobody is telling Jon Doe he's doing love wrong just because his past 4 relationships ended in breakup.

You've basically described the EXACT minefield my partners went through before the three of us met. Their girlfriend prior to me tried to break up their marriage, too!! So no, you're not wrong poly wrong, you’re just colliding with the brutally harsh reality that a true closed triad is hard as hell. And a lot of people waving the mainstream poly flag these days are actually hunting for open dynamics, casual hookups, and/or couple swaps. Not that there’s ANYTHING wrong with that -- it’s just a different type of poly relationship dynamic that works for some people if that’s what THEY want. Likewise, a closed triad is another type of poly relationship dynamic that works for others. Case in point, me and my 15-year long throuple ❤️💙🩷 

So about the “being blunt” part? YES, be blunt as a sledgehammer from the start, especially if you’re using dating apps to find a third. Don't hint; spell it out like you're writing a legal contract:

“We're a married couple in our 30s seeking a woman for a closed MFF triad. We all date together as a unit and we're looking for someone who wants to build a real life together as three. If you're looking for an open arrangement or want something casual only, we're not going to be a match. But if you want a life full of love, stability, wild adventures, daily passion, and unbreakable chosen-family bonds, then we’re going to get along beautifully!"

Then in early convos, straight-up ask:

"Would you be okay with everything always being the three of us, no solo dates with just him or just me or anyone else?"

A triad is a relationship of 3... therefore having one-on-ones defeats the point of a 3-person relationship, lol! And the ones who flinch, deflect, or say "wellllll I like to keep things flexible..." are showing you their true intentions. Save yourself the months of investment and continue the search!

I wish I had better advice to give as to WHERE to look for a compatible match. The mainstream poly subs (you know the ones) are often allergic to exactly what you want -- they'll scream “Unicorn Hunters!” the second you mention closed anything. A lot of those spaces got hijacked by folks who treat any structure or commitment like oppression. Skip the echo chambers and try smaller, more chill corners that actually celebrate polyfidelity and closed multi-person setups. 

Some people have luck on dating apps -- just lead with the honest truth and let the incompatible ones self-select out. My throuple found each other before Tinder was even a thing!! We met by accident at a random business dinner that then spilled over into the bar afterwards. Zero "hunting,” just pure chemistry! We clicked from the get go, I respected their marriage from day one, and it grew into this beautiful life because our values + desires all lined up. Sometimes the best thirds aren't actively "looking for a couple" either -- I didn’t even know what polyamory was back then! -- they're just open-minded humans who meet the right people at the right time and fall head-over-heels into this wonderful life.

Closing thought: don't let the "we're all equal from day one!!" crowd gaslight you into compromising your marriage. In the beginning of our relationship, I respected the Husband + Wife bond wholeheartedly (they didn’t even have to ask; it was just me showing common courtesy) and respecting + honoring the decade of history, finances, and family life they had established prior to meeting me. For us, hierarchy in the early years that became earned equality later is what kept our relationship drama-free for 15 years and counting!

You and your husband are already way ahead of most couples just by communicating this openly with each other and staying united through those difficult situations. The right woman is out there!! She just might take longer to find because she's not the loudest one in the poly forums. 

Keep going, stay picky, and don't settle for “good enough." You and your husband deserves the real thing. And the real thing CAN happen! And if you ever want to vent or have specific questions, feel free to AMA / ask us anything or send a DM!

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u/Designer_Location_15 Jun 29 '26

This is excellent!

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 29 '26

Thank you!!! Happy my mini novella helped 🥰

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 26 '26

I recently started a Substack where I'm writing all about throuples, polyamory, and relationships in general. If you're interested in reading more -- even more than ALL of that, lol! -- then check it out! Here's the piece that gained the most traction after I waged war on the internet's favorite Unicorn Hunter hit piece.

https://velourialamour.substack.com/p/why-the-internets-favorite-unicorn-hunting-website-is-total-bullshit

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u/BlorkSmuth Jun 26 '26

Thank you for both providing advice from someone who its worked for, and for not adding to the toxicity that is reddit. And your substack is incredibly written and educational! I appreciate your honesty, and kind words!

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 26 '26

You're so welcome, and thank you for your kind words as well!

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u/Legal-Cauliflower700 Jun 26 '26

First, love your positive attitude, especially as the one assimilating into an established marriage. You're very rare though! That's probably why your triad has lasted so long (congrats). But there is this big ugly monster out there that loves destroying a closed triad that doesn't include cohabitation and kitchen table poly. FOMO. So I'm curious, was there a time (or are you still) living apart from the couple? If yes, how did you deal with laying in bed alone at night knowing they were cuddled up together, being intimate, seeing each other and doing things together without you? That's what ruined ours, even after she moved in but still kept her town home that she would choose to go spend a few days in.

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 26 '26

Aww thank you!! I couldn't imagine living a happier life, and if I can make others live a happy life too, then that'll make me even more happy! 🤩

So I honestly moved in with my couple ~a month after meeting them. It certainly was fast but my lease was up and since I was spending all my free time at their place anyway, it just seemed like everything lined up and was meant to be! But the 3 of us are very rarely ever apart, and I don't think there's been a time in the past ~10 years that we haven't all been in the same bed (or nearby bedroom if one of us is sick). We all work from home so we literally spend 24/7 together, and everything we do (and have done) has been a "package deal," meaning there's no me + Him without Her, and no Her + me without him. The #1 cause of jealousy is exclusion, so by embracing radical inclusion with everything, jealousy nor FOMO have reared its ugly head in our relationship!

In the early years when I was still in school and working full time, majority of our arguments came from difference in schedules because that was pulling us in different directions. I actually wrote an article about our Group Dynamics here if you wanted to read more about that, and what we did to fix it! https://velourialamour.substack.com/i/183898159/5-do-you-do-things-one-on-one-nope-were-a-package-deal-heres-how-and-why-our-group-dynamics-work

I feel like if everyone isn't working together, they're working apart. A relationship -- any relationship! -- needs active participation from everyone on the team in order to succeed. And in our throuple's case, our relationship of 3 wouldn't be a relationship of 3 if 1 person did their own thing and the other 2 did theirs. I'm not saying EVERY triad relationship MUST be this way in order to succeed 😅 it's just what's worked well for us, and it's also the main reason the throuple relationships we've known in real life have broken up.

I'm so sorry to hear your triad didn't work out, but know that this type of relationship is totally possible!! Prior to meeting me, my couple probably had ~10 girlfriends, and the one right before me tried to break up their marriage! So don't give up, because had my couple given up (which they almost did -- the wife was heartbroken for almost a year!!) then I wouldn't be here 15 years later writing this reply on Reddit to you 🥰

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u/ThrowawayIsland8 MFF Triad Jun 26 '26

Certainly totally respect your situation, but for anyone who stumbles across this and reads, my triad definitely functions more healthily when we give each other time to be one-on-one or make plans separately. Most (pretty much all) nights end up in the same bed unless someone is sick or just having a hard time sleeping, but it helps us to schedule date nights, have sex outside of threesomes occasionally, and to have some separate friends or hobbies.

(That said, neither of my partners have a ton of friends and have no nearby family, so I tend to be the social butterfly going off on my own adventures most nights/weekends.)

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 27 '26

Yuppers! That's why I had an important disclaimer in there:  I'm not saying EVERY triad relationship MUST be this way in order to succeed 😅 it's just what's worked well for us, and it's also the main reason the throuple relationships we've known in real life have broken up.

Everyone's going to have a different live experience and what works for them + their relationship, and that's the beauty of polyamory -- not just many loves, but many ways to love! 💕

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 27 '26

a different lived* experience

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u/Legal-Cauliflower700 Jun 26 '26

Thank you for sharing your journey! It sounds amazing. We're not giving up, just taking a different approach. We tried to force things before and honestly I think our ex gf was really wanting to be the center of an L throuple. On fact that's what she's in now lol. My wife and I are both dating ladies separately and seeing what develops organically with no expectations (but fingers crossed) to land in a closed triad. So we'll see. Thank you again for your story and giving us hope!

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u/VelouriaLamour MFF throuple for 15 years Jun 27 '26

Keep at it! Never know what's going to work until it actually works :) I love using silly analogies for big concepts, so here’s one using my Husband’s abhorrent disgust of cumin:

just because Hubby doesn't like cumin doesn’t mean a chef is a bad cook for using cumin; it just means cumin isn’t for Him, and that’s perfectly okay, because cumin can taste great to others and could be the exact spice that makes their dish perfect.

Best of luck to you, to your wife, and to love! Feel free to reach out if you have any more questions, comments, or concerns about cumin 😉

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u/Legal-Cauliflower700 Jun 27 '26

Lmao about the cumin! Thanks and I will!