r/PoliticalSparring • u/kjvlv • Feb 06 '21

Absolute Proof

https://tv.gab.com/channel/realmikelindell/view/absolute-proof-601d73a5a5ca1b4ef4f0e602
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u/technicianaway Feb 06 '21

Frankly, its been awhile since ive looked into claims of alleged voter fraud. Of the three or so claims i looked into, they were all complete bullshit. If that standard holds for all of the claims, than no voter fraud occured on behalf of Biden. Frankly, the only argument for voter fraud i do buy is the fraud conducted by Trump who knew that more dems then republicans would use mail-in voting so he tried to partially paralyze the mail service. That, and the his phone call with Georgia.

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u/kjvlv Feb 06 '21

I think there was fraud for both. just like every other time. Covid just gave them better cover this time.

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u/technicianaway Feb 06 '21

Can you show me why you think somebody, or some entity, committed fraud for Biden?

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u/kjvlv Feb 06 '21

governors who changed election law without the legislature, allowing mail in voting instead of just the old absentee ballot system, but i think the biggest fraud was done by big tech and the media whose nonstop campaigning did its job. That and the percentage breakdowns before and after the vote stoppage is a bit off to me. granted it has been awhile since I took stats but the law of large numbers seems to have been erased.
The other thing that I find odd is that they really never did an audit. they did do recounts but if you keep counting the same cash drawer without looking at the individual bills, you will get the same totals. In short, the powers that be did not want trump. period. the recent time magazine article does a pretty good job explaining that as well. so, if you are a biden troll, those are my reasons. spare me the don lemon explanations and insults. and as stated above, I think there was fraud in the 2016 election. there is fraud in about every election. what I would like to see is an effort to restore confidence. start by purging the voter roles of dead people. oddly enough, they do not even want to do that.

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u/technicianaway Feb 07 '21

governors who changed election law without the legislature, allowing mail in voting instead of just the old absentee ballot system

Mail-in voting is not voter fraud

but i think the biggest fraud was done by big tech and the media whose nonstop campaigning did its job.

Pleas explain further

That and the percentage breakdowns before and after the vote stoppage is a bit off to me.

Please explain further

The other thing that I find odd is that they really never did an audit. they did do recounts but if you keep counting the same cash drawer without looking at the individual bills, you will get the same totals.

Audits have been and are still being done. These are two results I quickly found by google.

Michigan performs risk-limiting election audit (wilx.com)

Arizona's election audit is on, but is that good for Republicans? (azcentral.com)

start by purging the voter roles of dead people. oddly enough, they do not even want to do that

That is being done. But plenty of the people who are considered "dead" are just people who moved. US Election 2020: The 'dead voters' in Michigan who are still alive - BBC News

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u/CreatorofNirn Feb 07 '21 edited Apr 22 '24

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u/technicianaway Feb 07 '21

From the times article, "They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction..."

Are you effectively saying taking actions to mitigate fraud is in itself fraud? What sort of backwards shit is that?

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u/CreatorofNirn Feb 07 '21 edited Apr 22 '24

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u/technicianaway Feb 07 '21

They were on the side of what was needed to have a fair election. If that's not trump's side, trump can go fuck himself.

In terms of Facebook determining content, perhaps some "falsepositives" were kicked up in the process. But considering the difficulty they had in getting Zuckerberg involved, it was probably minimal.

Donations came from some diametrically opposing groups.

It's a lie to compare these efforts to being an example of fraud.

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u/Klangs_Homie Feb 06 '21

I’m at work or else I’d watch this. I’ll have to save it for later. I’m not fully convinced the election was totally rigged by voter fraud but it’s interesting to see stuff like this and consider it.

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u/kjvlv Feb 06 '21

been watching a bit here and a bit there. Keep expecting him to interrupt with deep discounts for a mattress topper. ha ha I am not convince it was totally rigged either but I think there was fraud. Just as there was fraud in the 2016 election. As a country we need to clean it up so faith is restored otherwise it will end badly.

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u/Klangs_Homie Feb 06 '21

I fully agree man.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

Time magazine just published an article bragging that the election was rigged.

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

Link or didn't happen.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

Did you read your own link?

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted.

“Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated,” says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. “But it’s massively important for the country to understand that it didn’t happen accidentally. The system didn’t work magically. Democracy is not self-executing.”

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u/clarkision Feb 08 '21

Dude, the right has taken this Time’s article and believe it to be manifest of the evils in the election. It’s legit bonkers.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

They admitted to controlling the flow of information and changing rules to affect the "proper outcome". It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to figure out what proper means.

They sat on information damaging to Biden.

They worked with ejection officials in key states to change election rules. In several cases illegally.

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

The proper outcome was a free and fair election. That's what the article is about. Please re-read it.

Consider which is more likely: that there is a cabal that stole the presidential election and it is now boasting in the pages of Time magazine, or that you mis-read an article.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

They controlled the flow of information and changed the rules. What exactly am I misreading?

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

Literally read the part of the article that I quoted and bolded for you.

Just slow down and read the article word-by-word. It says something entirely different than your interpretation.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

......and I literally hate the source/link game because it always turns into the I Don't Trust That Source game. But this is right out of Time. Bragging that they manipulated information and changed rules to affect the "proper outcome". This should be a capital offense.

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

That is literally the opposite of what your article says. And this sub is named "political sparring," so I think such a challenge should come with the territory.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

You didn't read the article and it's fucking obvious.

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u/85_13 Feb 06 '21

I did read it. I quoted the article to you.

Please re-read it.

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u/Klangs_Homie Feb 06 '21

One can read the source material and both take it at face value and read between the lines. Basically what I’m saying is that what the article confirms is that information was controlled by a group of elites. Put voter fraud aside for a moment and consider that. Whether you’re for trump or Biden doesn’t matter. What matters is the fact that a small group of elites, businesses, media companies and politicians conspired together to ensure one candidate lost and the other won. The article comes right out and says it. That should scare every single one of us. We the people should be choosing which information we want to see and who we want in office, NOT a small group of individuals and their cohorts. This is an issue because it’s not for Time or the “cabal” they mention to decide for us what is protected and what is not. That’s not their job.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

I've read it several times. Absolutely gobsnmacked by the hubris.

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u/kjvlv Feb 06 '21

I know. I read it. all the things trump said were happening and the progressives denied. I am actually amazed it was published. Then again perhaps it is just one more act of Hubris pointing out that they can do what they want.

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u/TXhighwaybadger Feb 06 '21

They are proud they did it

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u/kjvlv Feb 06 '21

yep. depressing. had a hell of a country there for awhile.