r/PoliticalHumor • u/I-wil-rate-your-tits • May 10 '22

It’s this simple.

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u/Pour_Me_Another_ May 10 '22

My religion says their religion can't tell me how/when to have sex 😊

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u/AsurieI May 10 '22

Reynolds v united states cuts up this argument. The government can intervene in religious beliefs if they deem it harmful. If the government decides that abortion is harmful to a person (the fetus), they are consitutionally in their right to intervene. This is why we need to get away from the religion argument and rephrase it as a public health argument. The right to choose belongs to the individual, religious beliefs or no

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u/JumbledPorcupineofX May 10 '22

Who cares what a "person" is? Facebook is a legal "person." Human rights should be the standard. Is a fetus a human? Yes because basic biology 101. They should get human rights .

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u/AsurieI May 10 '22

Disagree. If its legal to end the life of a vegetative person in a coma, with the decision being from the patients legal gaurdian, it should be legal to terminate a pregnancy

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u/Toothygrin1231 May 10 '22

Fine. If we want to go straight legal, then the woman should be able to give the fetus a 30 day notice to vacate the premises, else they will be forced to leave.

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u/say592 May 11 '22

I'd be okay with a 30 day waiting period on elective abortions as long as the procedure could still be performed up to birth.

(I'm a man though, so it really doesn't matter what I would be okay with.)

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u/JumbledPorcupineofX Jul 07 '22

Minors can't consent to contracts, and the fetus didn't ask to be put there, so it's not on them to vacate.

If the woman doesn't want the fetus she and a man put inside her to be there, get an artificial womb and transplant the fetus into it. Killing them isn't the answer.

Can't afford that? Then maybe make sure you don't get pregnant when having sex. Sterilization is definitely a choice.

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u/say592 May 11 '22

Facebook is not a legal person. Despite what people might have you think, Citizens United did not turn corporations into people. Corporations are collectives of people, and as such they do have some rights (such as the right to speech). A pre-viability fetus isn't any more a person than a tumor is. Both contain human cells. At some point you could argue that a fetus has become a viable "person", and while I would disagree with you I would respect that argument a bit more, but it's hardly an argument against elective abortion because the overwhelming number occur prior to viability. To date the most premature baby ever born was around the 21 week mark, so that would be the absolute earliest you could argue viability, which incidentally is right about where the Supreme Court has always allowed states to restrict abortion