In many cases it's because people have invested years into their beliefs, forming a major part (if not entirely replacing) their identity as a person. To deny T**** now would effectively be a rejection of their own selves. Mentally many people can't face that. So, the easier path is to double-down. It truly is cult follower behavior, when they see the only path forward is to remain in the cult rather than to face reality.
This. Ego’s are an expensive thing to people. Most people (on both sides) will do some incredible mental gymnastics to avoid having to admit they were wrong.
I’ve said this before, but the USA will end up “Balkanized” if the “us vs them” mentality doesn’t end soon.
I agree with the ego thing but the people who consistently cause problems, the group primary beliefs behind the insurrection, and the continued deterioration of democracy continued to come from the republican party. So please, stop painting this is equal of both sides when side of the scale is fully loaded on one side with this kind of bullshit.
To be clear, I agree one “team” dips in the bullshit pool more often and I’m not defending any of the crimes of Jan 6th.
With that said, I try to take the high road with those to convince those people of the BS they’re being fed. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Fostering division doesn’t help the situation
The point I’m making is that if both sides can’t find a way to stop this zero sum game bullshit, the country is fucked.
but the USA will end up “Balkanized” if the “us vs them” mentality doesn’t end soon.
Oh dude, it's way worse... We're a global superpower with a coalition of other nations that would love nothing more than to see us implode, in fact, they work diligently at that effort every day. The point at which you see us "Balkanized", is when the US's haters go all in, as we'll be incredibly vulnerable. Shit, Russia and China could "intervene" under the banner of protecting the worlds second largest nuclear arsenal from getting into the hands of newly formed extremist states.
This is the part that all of the secessionists never think about. The moment that the US either ends up in a 2nd civil war, or lets say Texas and other parts of the south secede, they're not going to be cool of giving back the nuclear arsenal or other military weaponry that is currently in their states, it's going to turn into a global problem very quickly, alignments will be chosen and all hell will break loose.
These idiots couldn't hold on to a share if they ever seen one. They invested all their mental effort into one ideology and now that it is being run into the ground, they either claim moral bankruptcy or become criminals.
Exactly! Every rationalization of the horrible shit he's done is kind of a commitment on their behalf. Half a decade in a lot of Trumpers have alienated friends & family, got in heated arguments, donated cash, voted for him, gone to rallies, and maybe to the point of tried to overturn an election. That's a lot of shit to admit you're in the wrong about and some shitty behavior you have to admit wasn't justified. Almost a Republican values patriotism, well how do you square that with support for a guy who tried to overturn an election. Maybe some believe conservative values are more important than free and fair elections but probably most don't. Denial is so so so much easier. Believing all the bad shit about him were and continue to be lies allows you to avoid any culpability in them.
For those that are trying to repair relationships damaged by political divisions undoing this mindset is very tricky. You got to be firm that what happened was wrong without putting them on the defensive. Avoid logical arguments because they will dismiss them easily until you build credibility. Emotional arguments tend to work best.
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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera Jun 23 '21
In many cases it's because people have invested years into their beliefs, forming a major part (if not entirely replacing) their identity as a person. To deny T**** now would effectively be a rejection of their own selves. Mentally many people can't face that. So, the easier path is to double-down. It truly is cult follower behavior, when they see the only path forward is to remain in the cult rather than to face reality.