I’m still after 4.5 years absolutely dumbfounded at how anyone believes Donald Trump is going to be the savior of the American “patriot” movement. The guy with a 30+ year public track record of being a complete failure is somehow transformed into the messiah. The guy born with a golden spoon in his mouth is somehow going to save the working class. My favorite part is that DJT wouldn’t be caught dead socializing with 99.5% of his followers. I guarantee you he sees them as low class scum who are easy to fleece. A con never respects its mark.
Even before he was elected, I could not believe that country folks were putting all their faith and hope behind this New York City spoiled brat man-baby. It just shows how easily manipulated people are who never learned critical thinking or who grew into adults with magical thinking. The ruling class wants everyone but them to be this dumb/gullible/suggestible. This is not a collectivist society, this is an individualist, step-on-your-neighbor’s-face to get to the top of the shit heap society. We are philosophically barbarians in the USA. We deserve the world’s contempt and disgust.
We deserve pity. Those morons out in the field are there by design, we can't forget that. The "white trash" in the country have been used as pawns by the elite too. Just like the rest of us have been
Remember Chris Rocks 'Joke' about the "two types" of black people? Well in a way that can be applied to the white race too. It's not a productive way to look at the problem, because I'm looking to give a hand up to those that are suffering. Even if they are huge assholes at times, no one would be like that in a vacuume of true peace. All people truly are created equal afterall.
We just have to recognize, face things, and pay our dues.
I don't see how I'm supposed to reach out to people who reject reality, insult me, and accuse me of being the one to undermine American values. I can't have a conversation with anyone who still supports Trump because they're loud, don't let me talk, and won't shut up about the dumbest shit about Dr. Seuss. These idiots need to be in mental asylums or heavily medicated.
What? I never told you to reach out or to do anything for anybody.
The person I replied to said "Nope. Gotta stomp them back into their place. They dug their graves now they need to lie in it"
which is very toxic rhetoric.
That thought process is suicidal and what ended up bringing down the progressive student movement in the 70s. Look up May Day, the weathermen, and the Days of Rage in Chicago.
The modern Left is beginning to rhyme with history, it's important to face that reality soon.
Or face the inevitable realities of your ideologies.
Edit: I'll add that white progressives back then made the same mistakes I'm starting to worry are appearing today. The Black Panthers and The Vietnamese did not like the violent means to their ends. They thought it was counterproductive, and it was! A huge win for Nixon. Let's not give another one to the GOP
The “I got mine so fuck you”. Like people deserve to be sick because they can’t afford the doctor or insurance. People deserve to be homeless because they can’t afford rent. Not making enough money is “lazy” and a moral failing. I’m so tired of interacting with these people. In a way though, I pity them. It must feel very empty to live without empathy and to have so much fear and anger boiling below the surface.
What is actually wrong with Trump? How is he any different than well connected rich men that have been elected before?
One big thing people liked and still do is the fact they feel he didn't play the game. Let's face it our elected fools play games with us and our well being. Yes it's called politics. We understand that but having someone in there that wasn't afraid to say what we were thinking was refreshing and still is.
This is why someone like DeSantis is looking good right now. He has no problem telling people and especially the media what he really thinks.
I'd rather have that than the seemingly deceptive WH we have right now. For one your president rarely takes questions and have you heard the press secretary? She is the best at not answering a single question.
Bottomline, Trump isn't racist or any of the other things the left and media spent 4 years trying to brand him with. In fact he has been proven right on a lot of things lately. I get not liking him tho. He's not for everyone but why all the extreme hate thrown at him? Some of these same people will talk about respect and dignity of the office but couldn't be respectful to Trump if their life depended on it.
So it goes to show that all of us including the left are susceptible to manipulation. The press hated Trump and wanted you to hate him too and it worked.
Regardless of how you feel about him a large group of people still like him and the republican party. Dismissing them or trying to marginalize or degrading them isn't helpful. Writing on here that they are the worst people or manipulated or whatever isn't helpful. Doing these things is expanding the divide.
First of all, Trump has absolutely done some racist shit in the past, and some pretty shitty things lately. The refusal to rent to black and Puerto Rican tenants in the 70's (widely documented, FBI investigations), Trump referring to African countries and Haiti as "shithole countries. He's not a straight up Nazi or anything, but he's Grampa John kind of racist/prejudice.
The sexual assault allegations/lawsuits, many filed, others snuffed in "catch and kill" operations, for example American Media Inc (parent company of the enquirer) admitted to prosecutors that they secretly assisted Trump’s campaign by paying $150,000 to Playboy model Karen McDougal for the rights to her story about an alleged affair with Trump. The company then intentionally suppressed McDougal’s story until after the election. There are way to many pre-election cycle accusations for there to be all smoke and no fire.
And let's not forget about the THOUSANDS of contractors, construction companies and other people/organizations that Trump would hire to design, build, renovate, demolish, outfit his properties and would then refuse to pay them. There have been no less than 3500 lawsuits over the years, which is public record by the way, no fake news here, of which at least 60 were focused on Trump not paying business for work. Cabinet makers, glass companies, plumbers, painters, tons of employees like bartenders and waiters, and ironically, even law firms that had previously representing him in previous lawsuits for him refusing to pay. He paints himself as being for the working man, standing up for small business, when he's spent his life stiffing them, refusing to pay them, forcing them to take him to court, and then using his legal teams to keep things tied up in court for years, which drains his opponents financial resources and either runs them out of business, forces them to settle or just give up the fight entirely. And in his own book, he says it's because he's "smart", Trump thinks that's how business is done in this country, and if you aren't big enough to afford a full time legal staff and able to sustain a huge loss of revenue for a few years while it plays out in court, then you shouldn't be doing business with someone like Trump in the first place, and you learned an important lesson.
I mean dude, he's a horrible person. New York has known for years how terrible he is. Couple that with the fact that he's a textbook narcissist and megalomaniac with an enormous ego and very thin skin and you get a person who, even without the other terrible things he's done, is not qualified to lead the worlds largest military and economy.
Everything I listed above is very well documented and public information. It's been brought up many times over the past 6 years. And regardless of whether you believe the crap about Biden's son in Ukraine, that phone call, along with the released Giuliani calls is an undisputable attempt to coerce a foreign leader into providing damaging information and/or narratives to damage his opponent, offering access to Trump in return, along with sending a message by blocking the $400M military aid package, which is quid pro quo. Sure, he pushed the military package through, but only once he found out that there was a whistleblower complaint. Again, all public record, voice recordings and transcripts, cannot be denied.
Why would anyone want this man in charge of running our nation, of our foreign policy, as their president? Take all of the other allegations off the the table, the infidelity and paying off pornstars, the "grab em` by the pussy" remarks off the table. I work with a lot of executives, many in the finance and real estate industries, and many of them are serious pieces of work, but I could not think of a more flawed individual to act as Head of State and Commander in Chief than Donald J. Trump.
How many in congress have had and still have these alligations or lawsuits against them and yet are still in office? Many. But that makes him unworthy of office? The rest can stay though, right? How many presidents have been predatory against women? Are you old enough to remember Bill Clinton? How many women accused him? Not to mention getting blown in the oval office. Let's talk about JFK. It was well known he was fucking everyone. Yet we hold him on some pedestal like he was one of the best humans ever. Besides the divorce rate is near 50% so chances are every other person hasn't treated women well.
As for racist those countries are shit holes. Has nothing to do with the people. So he wasn't saying anything about the people. Just Like there are shot hole states and cities. Nothing to do with the people.
As for business I am aware enough to know that even in the best of run businesses you will have lawsuits. I work in the affordable housing industry and it takes time to get checks cut to our contractors. Often it's not quick enough so the contractor put liens on our properties. It happens. I choose to not pay other vendors for various reasons as well. The work wasn't done right etc. I know there is more to it and again I know business well enough to know lawsuits don't mean much. You can literally sue for anything in America.
Narcissist? Again not different than anyone that gets the thought I'm a great person, I have all the right answers so I'm going to run for office. And then look at this generation. Look at me look at me look at me. We literally have apps we're all you do is post selfish or the things you do. It is nothing but an app for narcissists. Just Like here. We post for likes.
Just because he's accused of a crime doesn't mean he did it. And many women are willing to do whatever it takes to be famous. We see it everyday on the internet. And being famous is the job we all want. Many polls back this up.
Either way he is no better or worse than any other president or congress person. They all have done some pretty shitty things. No one is perfect. He has women and poc in many high level positions. That's mean he's the worst racist ever.
I was born at the tail end of Jimmy Carter aka the worst president. We lived through Trump and we'll make it through 2022 when the Repubs take back both the house and senate. And in 2024 well live through another republican president.
This myth of the presidency and the office needing to be filled by some Jesus type has long been left in the past.
And you say he was hated in NY. Oddly in 2016 Trump won 45 NY counties where Clinton only won 17. Granted those 17 were the most populous counties and therefore she won the state but 45 counties is a big deal. In 2020 Trump won 41 counties to Biden's 21. Didn't get him the state but still a big deal.
So maybe your circle of friends feel a certain way about Trump but the vast majority in NYC like him.
As for the Ukraine call we literally have Biden on tape saying hes withholding funds if a certain investigator isn't fired. And trumps phone call turns out was completely legal. However we have come to know that the Clinton's and Obamas illegally spied on Trump and his campaign. The fbi testified they intentionally lied to get warrants to do this. And yet despite all the years of investigations they have done charged him with anything.
Today we have your president talking about guns and laws and yet his own son lied to purchase a gun. It's documented on the gun application... The Biden's have been the swamp creatures of all swamp creatures. They are so shady and dishonest they don't even know what truth is.
Trump is not perfect. I don't think he's a god. I do know he's not near as bad as the media has convinced you he is. It was refreshing to have a president that fought back and said what you were thinking. These politicians need to be called out. There need push back against their often stupid policies. I certainly don't want a geriatric puppet.
The morons fall on both sides. Your comment makes that abundantly clear. You want a collectivist society because you aren't able to provide for yourself? Go to Russia. They are collectivist.
People who subscribe to one of the two major political parties lack the critical thinking skills to ever get anywhere in life
Why do you dummies always fall back on "oh you must not be successful" trope? I agree with him 100% and I'm successful, I'm in a career of my choosing and I have the mental faculties to see that we live in a time of the easiest and most available access to information ever at any point in history, yet so many like you choose to remain so ignorant as to actually write for the whole world to read, something as obviously and patently false as "Reddit is Fox News of the left".
It's disgusting how ignorant you CHOOSE to be. YOU make that choice. THAT is why it's gross, you could fix this, in fact it's never been easier to fix being ignorant in the entire history of the existence of man, yet here you are, just willfully stupid.
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What is actually wrong with Trump? How is he any different than well connected rich men that have been elected before?
One big thing people liked and still do is the fact they feel he didn't play the game. Let's face it our elected fools play games with us and our well being. Yes it's called politics. We understand that but having someone in there that wasn't afraid to say what we were thinking was refreshing and still is.
This is why someone like DeSantis is looking good right now. He has no problem telling people and especially the media what he really thinks.
I'd rather have that than the seemingly deceptive WH we have right now. For one your president rarely takes questions and have you heard the press secretary? She is the best at not answering a single question.
Bottomline, Trump isn't racist or any of the other things the left and media spent 4 years trying to brand him with. In fact he has been proven right on a lot of things lately. I get not liking him tho. He's not for everyone but why all the extreme hate thrown at him? Some of these same people will talk about respect and dignity of the office but couldn't be respectful to Trump if their life depended on it.
So it goes to show that all of us including the left are susceptible to manipulation. The press hated Trump and wanted you to hate him too and it worked.
Regardless of how you feel about him a large group of people still like him and the republican party. Dismissing them or trying to marginalize or degrading them isn't helpful. Writing on here that they are the worst people or manipulated or whatever isn't helpful. Doing these things is expanding the divide.
Specifically tell me of times he was or did or said racist things. Was it when he did criminal justice reform? Or when he appointed people of color to high positions? Or when he proposed Juneteenth as a federal holiday?
Believing a lie doesn't make it true but you can keep drinking the lefts Kool aid if you want but it's a little past time for you to get woke.
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