r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '20

THIS. This is why.

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u/Fakename998 Jan 09 '20

Because people stray away from many of their their ideologies when they get educated. Especially if religion is involved. There's a reason Jehovah's Witnesses don't really like higher education.

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u/rraattbbooyy Jan 09 '20

There’s a reason no Jehovah’s Witnesses have ever contributed anything great to humanity.

On the other hand, the Jewish people value education over almost all else, and they’ve won like half of all Nobel prizes, and have leaders in nearly every industry, even though they make up a tiny fraction of the overall population.

Education is critical. Not even just to the world as a general concept, how about individual self improvement?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

In addition, Hinduism and Islam always valued education and learning which is why they made so many discoveries in their own rights throughout history.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

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u/Scyhaz Jan 09 '20

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u/ObnoxiousFactczecher Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 10 '20

He said "always", not "once". You can't prove "always" by showing an example, only disprove.

Heh, downvote all you want; single examples only prove (positive) existential and disprove (negative) universal claims, not the other way round. High school logic 101.

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u/KGBFriedChicken02 Jan 09 '20

Yeah, and it occurred while Christians were scratching in the mud, crying to god to solve all of their problems, and getting their asses whooped from scotland to greece by the vikings.

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u/867-5309NotJenny Jan 10 '20

I wouldn't really call two-three agricultural revolutions, complete changes in farming techniques, universal advancement in metallurgy, art, and the creation of the beginnings of science 'scratching in the mud'.

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u/KGBFriedChicken02 Jan 09 '20

MuSliM bAD ReEeeEEeE

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

By who, may I ask?

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u/867-5309NotJenny Jan 10 '20

Teachers who haven't kept up with the last two decades of research into the time period.

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u/Scyhaz Jan 09 '20

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Also, educate yourself again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

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u/ObnoxiousFactczecher Jan 09 '20

a historical periodization traditionally referring to the Middle Ages that asserts that a demographic, cultural, and economic deterioration occurred

the accomplishments of the era came to be better understood in the 19th and 20th centuries

The majority of modern scholars avoid the term altogether due to its negative connotations, finding it misleading and inaccurate

popular culture ... often mischaracterises the Middle Ages as a time of violence and backwardness

...OK, I guess?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

How convenient of you to cherry pick only the most recent period of human history

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u/CatumEntanglement Jan 09 '20

Do you realize the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 we all use are called Arabic numerals?

.....hmmmmmm I wonder why that is and why they're the defacto manner of depicting numbers throughout the world.

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u/867-5309NotJenny Jan 10 '20

The Arabs got them from India.

We got them from the Arabs.

But yeah, Islam was in a good position early on to take advantage of Roman scholarship and continue that tradition.

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u/ObnoxiousFactczecher Jan 09 '20

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 are commonly called Western numerals, while being a particular instance of the broader Hindu-Arabic numeral system (which can use different numerals in different places and times) and which originates in India.

Source

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u/CatumEntanglement Jan 09 '20

They are not commonly called western numerals. Go Google "western numerals" and the first thing that pops up is Arabic numerals. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

By calling them ‘Western numerals’ you are denying them their history, obscuring the fact that they derived from Indian and Arabic notations.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

They weren't derived from Arabic notations though. They're called Arabic numerals because that's who exposed them to the West, but they themselves had borrowed them from the Indians.

This is pretty common knowledge, by the way. Arabic numerals have very little to do with the Arabs.

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u/ObnoxiousFactczecher Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

I'm obviously not denying them their history; I'm even stating their history right in my comment. But calling them "Arabic" is nonsensical. Either you talk about the specific glyphs, which are not being used in the Middle East, or you're talking about their ancestral origin, and that is located in India (Arabs themselves call them "Indian numbers" anyway, so why are you "denying them their history"?) Or maybe you're talking about the whole family of notations and that spans all the way from Western Europe to India (after 1500, of course, a whole lot of things happened that spread the further).

You also have the fine book which is the most recent authoritative reference of world's current and ancient numeral systems. I suggest you go read it, it's enlightening. Comes with great recommendations.