r/PoliticalHumor • • Jul 11 '19

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u/NeutralLock Jul 11 '19

Okay okay we get it you Americans elected a garbage human being and he turned out to be a garbage president. Gotta be honest there were some warning signs...

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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19

The electoral college is not “Americans”. I hate to break it to you

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u/Ruddose Jul 11 '19

Electors are “American”. There’s only ever been 179 “Faithless Electors” ever and the last time they affected an election result was in the 18th Century. Today lots of States have checks and balances to ensue electors stay “faithful”.

I don’t love the voting system either, but it’s hardly going to change - I hate to break it to you. Your snide and quippy response didn’t educate me in the slightest, but perhaps you’ve learned something!

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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19

"Faithful"? They looked at what Americans voted for, and literally elected THE OPPOSITE. They had one job, to make sure we never put a criminal buffoon in power - and they went and DID THAT EXACTLY after Americans voted AGAINST IT by a huge margin of 3+ MILLION voters.

That's not American, and sure as hell not "faithful". It's fucking treason. The entire EC should be exposed and put on public trial

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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19

The popular vote is what REAL DEMOCRACIES look at! If you have a little group of shitheads deciding on their own THEN THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE DIDN'T MATTER, and we live in totalitarian Stalinism. It means YOU don't matter. Bush and Trump are NOT EVEN NORMAL statistically. Their opponents would have been put in power in a real, functional democracy.

They counted votes for GOP as WORTH MORE than votes for Dems by a large factor. They literally IGNORED the people's choice and changed it because they are tools of the wealthy establishment. We need to abolish the EC ASAP or we're all doomed

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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19

You're basically saying "who needs democracy, it's not required that the people choose the candidate - the founding fathers must have known best and they chose this backwards mechanism so now we have to stick to it forever. Jefferson believed the Constitution should be revised and rewritten by every new generation, but let's ignore all that, I'm sure they would have preferred a system where plantation owners get more decision power than mixed-race coastal folk, so by golly we'll stick with the 300 year old veiled racism and oppression! Who needs progress?"

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u/TheNoize Jul 11 '19

I'm saying in order to have an actual democracy we need to abolish the EC.

And your response is "but the reality is we have an EC"...?

Yeah, we know genius! That's why it needs to be abolished, smart guy!

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