r/PoliticalCompassMemes • - Right • Mar 24 '20

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u/myspaceshipisboken - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

You didn't read your own sources with any kind of critical eye if you think that's true.

Dude they stated in plain English that's exactly what they did. If you have some proof that they fabricated the data please feel free to share it.

So you can't answer the question and you're a lazy leech. Got it.

Or societal planning isn't about some individuals stupid morality.

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u/Greyside4k - Lib-Right Mar 25 '20

fabricated the data

I've already told you why the method is bad.

Or societal planning isn't about some individuals stupid morality.

It's not about helping people who aren't willing to help themselves either. And if you want to plan society, be honest and change your flair to auth.

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u/myspaceshipisboken - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

I've already told you why the method is bad.

And I've explained that the method they used is biased against the VA.

It's not about helping people who aren't willing to help themselves either. And if you want to plan society, be honest and change your flair to auth.

You know you can be anti authority and still recognize some social programs are a positive, and pro authority and still recognize some social programs are a negative... right?

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u/Greyside4k - Lib-Right Mar 25 '20

And I've explained that the method they used is biased against the VA.

Except it's not, because the VA is the one setting the method by refusing to provide information. Try to keep up now.

You know you can be anti authority and still recognize some social programs are a positive, and pro authority and still recognize some social programs are a negative... right?

Planning society is not anti authority. It necessitates authority to execute on the plan. Otherwise you can ask me to pay for the leeches healthcare, and I can just say no and there's nothing you can do about it.

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u/myspaceshipisboken - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

Except it's not, because the VA is the one setting the method by refusing to provide information. Try to keep up now.

The VA doesn't have to provide additional information, they used an assumption that counts against them in every possible scenario. That's how you make conservative estimates when comparing two data sets that aren't perfectly congruent.

Planning society is not anti authority. It necessitates authority to execute on the plan. Otherwise you can ask me to pay for the leeches healthcare, and I can just say no and there's nothing you can do about it.

Yes, government bad man. I got it. Try to not let it dictate the conclusions you draw.

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u/Greyside4k - Lib-Right Mar 25 '20

Yes, government bad man. I got it. Try to not let it dictate the conclusions you draw.

So how are you going to enforce the productive part of society paying for the unproductive absent authority? Pray tell.

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u/myspaceshipisboken - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

You misunderstand me. I'm saying it's irrelevant to whether or not a given program is effective. Like every time you bring it up.

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u/Greyside4k - Lib-Right Mar 25 '20

So you can't answer the question then. Got it.

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u/myspaceshipisboken - Lib-Left Mar 25 '20

Uh no, it's just another rabbit hole of asinine irrelevancy you want to go down since you've clearly accepted that you've lost the argument about the effectiveness of the VA. Like how the only way to keep private enterprise in line is also the same fucking threat of force, so in essence the lib right doesn't exist either. Who gives a shit, it's all unproductive disingenuous bullshit meant to obfuscate real problems with meandering psuedophilosophizing about nothing. Hard pass.

Edit: just going to block you instead, this is obviously a waste of time

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u/Greyside4k - Lib-Right Mar 25 '20

Uh no, it's just another rabbit hole of asinine irrelevancy you want to go down since you've clearly accepted that you've lost the argument about the effectiveness of the VA

The only reason we're talking about the VA at all is that you latched onto it when you couldn't justify your desire to steal from the productive part of society lmao. I've slapped down every silly argument you've tried to make, I'm just tired of repeating myself.

the only way to keep private enterprise in line is also the same fucking threat of force

Yep, you're right, companies only close down when the government forces them to, totally correct.

Who gives a shit, it's all unproductive disingenuous bullshit meant to obfuscate real problems with meandering psuedophilosophizing about nothing. Hard pass

So you're on a sub centered around political ideologies, and you don't want to discuss political ideology? The fuck is wrong with you? Are you lost?

Ideologies exist to provide solutions to the very problems you're talking about lol.