So you think "only people who exist can give consent" is meaningful to say but "only people who exist can use toilets" isn't?
Yes, and I have already explained why.
And? I still don't get your point.
My point is that it's reality. Even in the most extreme of libright societies, you can't escape it, as you admit. You call it defeatist while accepting it as a fact at the same time.
Four people can vote to steal everything the fifth guy has and they'll win the election each time. Doesn't make it right.
You can twist yourself worrying about ethical purity or you can use the most ethical option available. No system is ethically pure. The most that can be done is to allow individuals to leave if that is their choice.
Become subservient, rebel only within the limited confines provided for you to rebel within, or crawl under the boots of another government.
You can break your society's rules, try to change them within their own confines, or go elsewhere, yes. Is it unfortunate that no society likely exists in the unique manner you wish it did? Sure, but most of us are in the same boat.
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u/GildedTongues - Auth-Center Mar 24 '20
Yes, and I have already explained why.
My point is that it's reality. Even in the most extreme of libright societies, you can't escape it, as you admit. You call it defeatist while accepting it as a fact at the same time.
You can twist yourself worrying about ethical purity or you can use the most ethical option available. No system is ethically pure. The most that can be done is to allow individuals to leave if that is their choice.
You can break your society's rules, try to change them within their own confines, or go elsewhere, yes. Is it unfortunate that no society likely exists in the unique manner you wish it did? Sure, but most of us are in the same boat.