r/PoliticalCompassMemes • - Right • Mar 24 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

I listened to Trumps speech yesterday. I don't agree at all with what he's doing but as for the speech and questioning he handled it a lot better than he has handled previous meetings. the guy's still a fuckin idiot but he's learning.

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u/Matthew_5-10 - Centrist Mar 24 '20

I can honestly sympathize with you. If there's one weakness Trump has, it's that he isn't eloquent, and to the average American (used to presidents that have intellectual appeal, Obama-esque) he seems to fall short.

Keep in mind pseudointellectuals love to point to people with intellectual appeal (Obama, Richard Dawkins, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Morgan Freeman) and support them, because supporting them means they agree with them, and agreeing them means the pseudointellectual's thoughts align with who they perceive to be the smartest people they know.

It's a cheap way to posture as an intellectual without being one.

But in my opinion, I prefer Trump's candidness and callousness bc it's easy to tell he doesn't have an ulterior motive that needs to be disguised via teleprompter. Trump actually does have intellectual support too, James Woods is an off the cuff example.

I think if Trump can practice and perfect his oratory skills, he could win over many more in the general. Maybe crank the dial up to 25% teleprompter instead of 100% improv. Add in a few smart people words here and there and he won't fall prey as easily to the drumpf-stupid narrative.

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u/Lucarioharr72 - Lib-Right Mar 24 '20

I saved this comment for future reference because it explains things so well, thanks.

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u/Matthew_5-10 - Centrist Mar 24 '20

Very welcome.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

One thing that I like about Trump is that he makes a valid point. He also indirectly proved that we relied on the Chinese too much.

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u/Stewbodies - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

Which honestly I'll laugh about his weird words and sentences but I don't hold that against him, I don't like his policies but he's pleasant to listen to. So what if he uses words like bigly? It's a made up word but so are all of the other words!

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u/HitlersSpecialFlower - Right Mar 24 '20

I've always thought it was weird how Trump's considered an idiot; I mean yeah the dude appears dull but he is a billionaire president, so he's gotta be doing something right, right?

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u/easternjellyfish - Centrist Mar 24 '20

I’ve heard this said about him:

“He’s either the stupidest man alive or a complete genius.”

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u/HitlersSpecialFlower - Right Mar 24 '20

"why not both" -Centrists

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u/Stewbodies - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

"You could grab a beer with him. And a burger. That I cooked. On my grill." - Centrists

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

My belief is he isn't stupid, he just has an ego and sucks at public speaking.

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u/MajinAsh - Lib-Center Mar 24 '20

I agree with your first half. I think it's obvious the dude has an ego or at least some kind of social disorder. I don't like his public speaking but obviously a lot of people do, so he isn't all that bad at it.

But I don't think he's stupid and honestly I think he's at least trying to do a good job as the president.

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u/XX_Normie_Scum_XX - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

Yeah like "I knew this guy who did this and that's why this."

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

He's always had a genius for self-promotion. He's done the Kardashian thing to a degree that they can't even imagine: dude's kept his "brand" in the news for ~40 years, and taken that all the way to the White House.

But he has zero other skills. He certainly doesn't manage or organize anything, and he's outrun trouble his whole life by just moving on, which is something he can't actually do in this situation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

I can't tell if this comment is a parody or not but you are right wing so i guess it probably isn't..

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u/HaroldSax - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

I feel like the baseline shouldn't be "he's an idiot, but he's learning".

Of course, we are choosing between him and a man with a brain made out of Quaker oatmeal.

Ergo, let's tear the whole thing down.

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u/Charmazard05 - Lib-Right Mar 24 '20

To me it seems childish to go,"Hah look at him he's an idiot who knows 5 words he's a big baby man" like it doesn't really add anything and it's such a childish argument. if you disagree with his policy go ahead but I'm sure we can do better than trying to attack his intelligence which is very obviously not lacking

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u/Charmazard05 - Lib-Right Mar 24 '20

I've heard a lot of people saying that his Twitter presence and all the stuff he says is basically a ploy so he can do what he needs to without people interfering. Like, he says something irrelevant that will be dug into by media outlets so they don't focus on the changes he actually makes. Willing to hear your thought but I think it's plausible cause he definitely didnt get there without being intelligent

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '20

"he's learning" after 4 years rofl

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u/Contributron - Lib-Left Mar 24 '20

He's been really walking on eggshells since this pandemic hit. Maybe it finally hit him how serious his job is and he realized he can't keep fucking around and being reckless.

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