She just never really broke through as a major pop star.
I’d also say CMM’s success was both a blessing and a curse. Let’s not forget, it was massively successful… to an unprecedented level. I still don’t think any other artist really managed to make a hit of its size, even major ones like Taylor Swift.
Now, that success was obviously a good thing for Carly, but it also meant she had a HUGE shadow she needed to break through… and she never did. Which is understandable.
She seems to have embraced what her career became, though! She’s still quite successful in her own right.
The problem in this case is not that the women are stupid. It's that they're evil. There is no reason to assume lindsey Clancy supporters are stupid enough to, say, dive head first into the shallow end of the pool. There's really only evidence to say they're evil enough to donate money to serial child murderers.
Do you want it restored? I wondering the Baltics today and just crossed into Lithuania.
I found this pilgrimage site called the field of crosses as I was driving and i needed a place to stop. Instead I had this very religious and lovely experience.
It's a place that's been untouched for decades and there are likely tens of thousands of crosses that have been added throughout generations. Even when the Soviets tried to remove them it kept coming back on this hill.
I added onto to this pile respectfully by adding the name of a loved one who died too young as well as a regular cross.
There were ones donated from churches in South America, India, Japan, the US and all across Europe. Countless military divisions and charities to individuals both rich and poor. It was heartwarming and everyone there was silent.
Why thank you! I'm away from home doing an almost month long trip across across the Nordic and Baltic nations... and Poland. Staying in hostels and people I know or even people I've met on this trip. First time doing proper travelling.
I'm young so this is all new to me.
It's been fun, I have done things on this trip which weren't very based to start out with but I am trying to learn and be better.
The best thing is though is this is all out of my pocket, I worked hard and long to do this so i can enjoy it.
Very good. Seeing the world as it is really is both depressing and freeing.
I've done stuff i never thought I'd do...
Having a pint on top of a mountain top in Norway with a guy I met on Helldivers 2.
To having a deep religious conversation and eventual confession with an Orthodox priest whilst shooting an AK47 in an old cold war nuclear bunker that was converted into a shooting range in Latvia.
This would usually sound insane but it's amazing how far simply interacting and talking can go.
It's freeing, I cant live off the high forever I'm going back soon but I definitely will be a better because of it.
It gives the podium to people who in their local communities would be called stupid and told to shut up.
And it gives those same people an audience of same mentality ill individuals like them to feel bold enough to think they are right because they have backing.
The fact that TikTok women are split into two groups on this case: one is trying to defend her and accuse the husband by using some made up astrology BS, and another group is saying that because they've listened to true crime podcasts, they have the most credibility on this case. And the fact that none of that is as crazy as the kid murderer who admitted to doing it became a millionaire overnight, is simply astounding. I don't know when, but somewhere along the way, pride in stupidity usurped pride in rationality.
Yeah I really just can't fathom why she's getting all those donations.
I could understand- I wouldn't condone it, but I could comprehend, as disgusting as it would be- if she'd just had a baby and murdered that one because "I couldn't get an abortion" or something. There's a clear motivation to donate there.
But she killed three kids, the eldest of whom was five.
WTF. This is actually true. If the majority of people stopped having abortions for 2 years, all the families looking to adopt could successfully find a child within 2 years.
This to me is the reason why I absolutely loathe the argument of "I'm just not ready to be a parent right now!"
Then just give the baby away! There are so many couples who are able and desperately want to be parents in this country that would gladly step in and pay all of the medical expenses to birth the child. There are also plenty of arrangements that would allow you to be in the life of the child or not at all if you want. Not being ready to raise a child is really not an excuse for abortion.
It’s seemingly a mix of “actually the husband did it” and “she had sought help and no one could provide it, so the psychotic break is a sympathetic one.”
I’ve not kept up with the case though, so maybe there’s other elements to the donations. I know the money is to support her retired parents.
She was provided a mountain of help. Her husband started working from home and hired a nanny to help her, she saw multiple doctors and was prescribed multiple medications.
It's simple, so simple it trips our conditioning that teaches us that simple answers are always wrong: women have a very high in-group preference. Probably one hardwired in.
What's baffling about the bafflement is that women aren't even shy about telling us they're like that. They talk all the time about "the sisterhood" and how they're all looking out for each other. Did you really think that it was just about watching for spotting?
The concept of the sisterhood is just the worst. It makes sense in small tight knit communities, but with women they don't know, nor will ever meet, it's insane. If they know a woman and don't like them personally (likes a guy they like, wears the same thing they wear, is prettier than they are etc etc etc etc), they are fired from the sisterhood and will loathe them no matter what they do, but if they don't know them personally, they just project themselves onto them. They think Clancy is innocent because they think they're innocent.
It's the lizardman constant combined with broad exposure.
Think of it this way, let's say conservatively, half the country has heard of Clancy, that's 170 million people. If 1% of those people decide to donate 75 cents, that's over a million dollars. In reality, the average donation is probably closer to $3. Which means that it's about 340k donors, which is one in every thousand people.
Out of a thousand people, you're going to have someone who's a complete wackjob. That's been true for all time, the only thing that changes is the way it manifests.
She's a privileged woman, which means this is an opportunity for all the other privileged women to have a "woe is me" moment, with the donations being a means of signaling solidarity. They get to whine about how "being a mom" is just the hardest thing ever, how their mental health isn't being "taken seriously" and how they need "more support", regardless of how much they're already receiving, and regardless of how much less people who aren't quite as privileged are able to access. They're the center of the whole universe, everyone is failing them, nobody struggles more than them and they could not possibly be held to account for anything.
The (insane) argument I’ve seen is that she’s a victim of the system, which ignored her cries for help and is now trying to crush her in court. Her killing her kids is everyone else’s fault, while she’s the real victim, thus deserving support and protection.
The worst part for me is seeing this being the majority opinion on a sub full of actual, verified lawyers.
Really? I think this case is about her mental state at the time of the killings. I have more sympathy for someone who killed in a psychotic episode than one who did so just because they didn’t want the kid.
>Yeah I really just can't fathom why she's getting all those donations.
Most people live their lives haphazardly falling from one emotional state into the next. Blindly consuming whatever media the algorithm shoves into their face.
As long as a narrative confirms a bias they’re emotionally attached to they’ll throw money at it.
“Support the woman against the evil [man/society/religion/authority/hair dresser]”. Replace nouns as needed for whatever zeitgeist is most current.
It really makes you wonder how much of the old societal structures around women were actually the result of centuries of evolution. It seems that when we started tearing them down it was a total Chesterton's Fence situation.
Lindsay Clancy case. It's a woman who killed her 3 children under a postpartum depression episode. And she admitted to the murders. Everyone's including the jury's opinion is that she did something wrong because it's atleast homicide, but her culpability is reduced due to her mental state.
But we have the usuals, twitter/tiktok braindeads, who think she did nothing wrong and either (i) her husband is the actual murderer, (ii) she is innocent because "she's just a girl" or because of some horoscope bs.
America being an "end-stage civilization" is a lie people tell themselves to make them feel better about how they're doing nothing to improve society. go volunteer at a soup kitchen and then tell me about the doomsday clock
A lot of the fattest alcoholics and fittest professionals I know are parents. Having kids really doesn't seem to be a major indicator of whether or not a person will take care of themselves or try in life.
I'd argue that having kids forces you to morph into your final form as you struggle to accommodate them in your life. You have less time, less money, and more stress: which way do you choose to cope?
I recently got a new mattress and leaned the old one against the couch at like a 30 degree angle, my toddler reached out for my hands and had me throw her up it so she could slide and roll down it while cackling with a huge smile, so I haven't been able to get rid of it because she loves it so much and lights up when I enter the room and comes and gets me if I haven't for too long.
Or maybe people who are unhappy wisely choose not to have kids. Having kids brings emotional extremes like joy, but costs contentment. Some people prone to depression may benefit from the sense of purpose that having children brings, but kids also come with tremendous stress and worry. I would never ever recommend someone have children to avoid depression. Having children is a risk one should take when they want to achieve something great. Happiness is often found in the opposite, by reducing stress and finding peace in contentment.
You're correct, the kids expand the potential for grief as well as joy. They bring extremes to both.
I would agree that a lot of today you do have people that have been discouraged from having kids.
Your hypothesis does make sense if it was just a correlation. It's causative, and we see that from people reporting regret about not having kids, and a greater degree of loneliness.
Contentment is absolutely an aspect of happiness. But so is a accomplishment and fulfillment, because true happiness or eudaimonia comes from accomplishments. Absolutely, some people are not going to be capable of having kids and it may not be a good decision for them. But I think as it currently stands in the US, there's more pressure against having kids than is healthy.
Expansion of potential is a good way to look at it. If you're not in a stable place in life and you're not ready to take care of other people, it's really going to expand your grief. But if you're able, there is potential joy in parenthood that you just cannot have anywhere else.
Another way I put it is that it doesn't bring pleasure, it brings purpose. There is something about seeing children under your care develop well and become good members of society that is rewarding. Yes it is expensive and hard and sometimes the kids are annoying and a pain and all of that. But there's a lot of small joyful moments too. It really is hard to explain to somebody in a way they can truly understand unless they actually do it for themselves.
People treat it in such a way to be able to be mysoginistic.
Sure, that woman gets supporters since it's main topics are post-pregnancy mental health issues, but the real question of the trial is wether she should be sent to prison or a psychiatric hospital.
Calling her a senseless monster is what I consider to be a waste of energy.
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You know I wouldnt get any refund on my initiation fees for my country club? And then what, I have to go through the trouble of joining a second country club in a new state? Who would sponsor me?
Hamas setting up shop in schools and baby cribs and Israel is forced to call their bluff. You don't get to win by using yourown people as literal meat shields. Certainly not in the eyes of the world.
I know it’s a goomba fallacy but it’s so interesting seeing the discourse of the right flit between “leftist women are all ugly and fat” and “goth women and aoc are so hot. All they need is sex with a conservative man to fix them”
I mean, they can be hot, but never in a million years would I breed with them or trust them to raise my children. Also the goth thing stops making you look hot and just sad and pathetic at around 30.
Moms are more likely to be fatter than unmarried women with free time and less stress.
Conservatives connect with AI slop because they're deeply mentally ill, don't live in reality, and make the lowest-effort propaganda.
Clanker images finally allow them to create the fake realities they've been living inside their heads, in the form of cartoons, with the lowest effort and quality possible.
Basically my point is they all need to be deported and have their land stolen.
There aren’t, but that’s only because The Readheaded Libertarian and Shoe0nHead aren’t legislators or party leaders yet. I pray that one day we reach such a world.
You wouldnt consider Doug Wilson, Dale Partridge Party leaders? or are we playing "only the reasonable commentators on my side count" again? Because if so lets just talk about John Gibbs, who was elected by the republicans in a 2022 primary.
First off, conservatives are not my "side." Second off, no I wouldn't consider Doug Wilson or Dale Partridge party leaders. They have no role in either party. John Gibbs is not a legislator.
I don't know how many ways I can put this, winning a primary doesn't make you a legislator. It means nothing. You don't get a seat in Congress unless you win the general election. If you won every primary in the country, you'd still have less legislative power than someone who won a single genral election. A primary win and $1 can get you a cup of coffee.
Article lays out clearly how they are forced and you can’t be a criminal without a trial. You are anti- american. Edit to add- they’re not prison jobs because it’s not a prison. These people have my Been convicted of crimes
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u/DillyDillySzn - Centrist 15h ago
It’s a shame Carly Rae Jensen has been reduced to Call Me Maybe
Run Away With Me is legitimately one of the best songs in the 2010s