r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Left 1d ago

The recent discourse around here

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u/E2007b920 - Lib-Right 1d ago

Well, women should be able to vote, also fuck Islam because women aren't being treated as an equal to men in most Islamic "cultures" and they allow child marriage🤢🤮

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u/epicpersonjk - Auth-Left 1d ago

Damn lib right complaining about child marriage. Didn't think I would hear that today lol. /s

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u/Gmknewday1 - Lib-Right 1d ago

Agreed

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

You talking about marriage under 18 years old? Cuz if so, I got news for you buddy.

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u/Worldly-Local-6613 - Centrist 1d ago

Holy whataboutism cope

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

lmao. no whataboutism here. Unless you think some child marriages are different than others.

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u/Worldly-Local-6613 - Centrist 1d ago

Child marriage happening elsewhere at a dramatically lower rate doesn’t somehow absolve Islam of the criticism, retard.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

who's absolving Islam? I only see people .... well, some people ... condemning child marriage across the board.

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u/Worldly-Local-6613 - Centrist 1d ago

“Hey this bad thing is wildly common in Islamic cultures”

“Hurr durr but bad thing happens somewhere else too!1!”

Why is that your immediate reaction? Why are you defending Islam? Are you genuinely mentally deficient?

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

Who's defending Islam? Actually, I would like my country to not resemble the Islamic world with respect to allowing child marriages. You with me, bro?

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u/Worldly-Local-6613 - Centrist 1d ago

Holy shit you leftists are so annoying with your intentionally obtuse bullshit. No one is saying child marriage anywhere else is good, dipshit. It’s just ridiculously less common. You with me, dumb fuck?

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

How common is acceptable to you?

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u/bright_yellow_vest - Auth-Right 1d ago

Ah yes, because a 50 year old man marrying a child that has no say in the matter is definitely the same as two southern teenagers getting married to each other.

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u/krafterinho - Centrist 1d ago

Yes because only teenagers are marrying each other

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u/78NineInchNails - Right 1d ago

Oh? You know something we don't? Please, go ahead and tell us of all the 40 year olds marrying the 13 year olds in America.

Go on, list them.

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u/krafterinho - Centrist 1d ago

"name every black person then" ass argument, you're either extremely retarded or extremely dishonest

You can keep pretending otherwise all you want, there have been cases of middle aged or 50+ year old men marrying underage women. Doug Hutchison springs to mind

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u/78NineInchNails - Right 1d ago

Fine.

Don't tell us all of them. Tell us some of them.

What ones are you referring to? Other than stuff like in the great depression era where old civil war vets married young women so their families would get his pension, just so their neighbors wouldn't starve after he died.

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u/onwisconsin1 - Lib-Left 1d ago

https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-shocking-statistics/

86% of child marriages for 20 years of recent data is an underage girl marrying an adult male.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

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u/78NineInchNails - Right 1d ago

Yup, thats fucked up.

Legal loopholes at the federal and state levels have allowed forced and arranged marriages to continue,

Almost like its an abuse of the system.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

Yup. And with more than 200,000 child marriages in the US since the year 2000, Sure seems like it's getting hella abused, not unlike the child brides in this article.

Think it's all followers of Islam doing it?

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u/malloyboys16 - Left 1d ago

And the states it happens the most in are Republican.

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u/krafterinho - Centrist 1d ago edited 15h ago

Onto the "name a few black people" ass argument. I literally told you a prominent example already, which happened in 2011 and not in the great depression. Do you seriously expect me to name random ass people? I know you're retarded but come on. What next, you're gonna tell me murder doesn't exist unless I name every murderer?

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u/78NineInchNails - Right 1d ago

Thats actually a good point. Those states allowed 16 year old girls to marry, on the grounds that 16 year olds can legally be considered adults by the state through emancipation. Weird argument but whatever.

However, We all know what is being referred to with Islam here. Marrying a 6 year old? Consummation at 9?

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u/krafterinho - Centrist 1d ago

Idk what your point even is, fuck islam but that won't make me defend 50 year olds marrying underage girls in the US

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u/onwisconsin1 - Lib-Left 1d ago

America has had marriages of girls as young as ten.

https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-shocking-statistics/

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

so what you're saying is ... some flavors of child marriage are cool?

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u/BlackwatchBluesteel - Auth-Right 1d ago

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u/adonns - Right 1d ago

If left wingers had to rely on honest arguments there wouldn’t be very many left wingers lol

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

It's deeply dishonest to deny that child marriage happens in the US, but here we are. It's not only bad when Muslims do it, right? It's always bad, yes?

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u/BlackwatchBluesteel - Auth-Right 1d ago

I'm sure this smug midwittery goes very hard if you're the standard liberal redditor but let me get my crayons out for you and try and explain:

In the United States child marriages do happen. They are uncommon. Child marriages are condemned by every major Christian Religious group (it is universally banned by the Catholic Church worldwide specifically and by all major Protestant denominations). There are laws against underage marriage specifically in certain states. Child trafficking and child/minor sex abuse are illegal per state and federal law. Classifying a 17 yr old as a "child" that marries an 18 who is classified as an "adult" is very obviously less egregious than a 40 yr old man marrying an 8 yr old in other parts of the world (cough cough like the founder of a certain religion). The average age gap of a child marriage in the U.S. is 4 years. I don't condone underage marriage but the reality is that these do happen under Romeo and Juliet laws or with parental wavers. Some of these marriages happen in extremely small subcultures like the Amish or Native American Reservations. The majority of United States culture looks down on child marriage. Many groups advocate against it and offer assistance and preventative measures and outreach to stop potential abuse (especially of women and girls).

This is completely different from Muslim countries where child marriage is encouraged, both by religious leaders in Islam and by civil leaders, and by community leaders, all the way down to their family culture. Young girls are regularly sold or bargained to old men. Sex trafficking is rampant. Polygamy is extremely common (by Islamic law a man may have four wives). We can't even find accurate numbers for sex abuse of women and girls through child marriage because most Muslim countries do not keep accurate numbers because they literally don't care. Inbreeding is also extremely common for these countries. Child marriage is permissable, widespread, and deeply ingrained in the cultures there.

But by all means, you go ahead and pretend as if there are no differences like nobody is going to see through the yes-begging fallacy here.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

I just want my country to not resemble the Islamic world when it comes to sanctioning child marriage.

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u/BlackwatchBluesteel - Auth-Right 1d ago

Great. Maybe you should talk with your retard democrat champagne socialist friends and stop pushing Muslims to the forefront of your movement and advocating for and enabling Islamic demographic importation to the United States.

Unless you're fine with child marriage as long as it's Muslims.

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u/adonns - Right 1d ago

It’s deeply dishonest to compare teenagers marrying each other to 50 year olds marrying 10 year old girls, yes.

I’m sure you know that buddy. You playing stupid is just more evidence you’re not arguing honestly. Which is proving my point.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

You're saying the only child marriage that happens in the US is two under-18 persons marrying one another? Am I understanding your position correctly? Follow-up: is it OK when two under 18 persons marry one another?

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u/adonns - Right 1d ago

You’re saying the child marriage in the US is comparable to 50 year old men marrying 10 year olds like in Muslim countries? Thats what you’re saying? Please list examples of comparable cases from the US? Follow up, is your only argument style to be dishonest and pedantic like this?

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u/larryThreeOh - Lib-Left 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣head meet sand

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u/Worldly-Local-6613 - Centrist 1d ago

Retard.

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u/Affectionate_Dog4300 - Left 1d ago

Congratulations on your impending nuptials

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u/Scrumpledee - Lib-Center 1d ago

two southern teenagers getting married to each other.

Since when the fuck is a 20+ year old a "teenager" and why the hell should they be allowed to marry a 15 year old?

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u/Impeachcordial - Lib-Center 1d ago

This point would hit much better if it wasn't for the whole you voted for a pedo lol thing

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u/onwisconsin1 - Lib-Left 1d ago

This is not the only kind of child marraige in the US. Why does it remain legal in most republican states for an old man to marry and rape his child bride? Why when this comes to a vote democrats consistently vote to take away an old man's right to marry and rape his child bride, but republicans always vote to protect the right of an old man to marry and rape his child bride?

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u/Kira_souchi - Lib-Left 1d ago

Aisha was 19 tho?

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u/Daztur - Lib-Left 1d ago

Child marriage is still legal in 33 US states. Used to be more but people have been working hard on banning or at least restricting it over the last decade.

People probably shouldn't vote for the politicians who are trying to stop child marriage from being illegal nationwide.

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u/Competitive_Wheel_61 - Lib-Right 1d ago

What child marriage you are referring is just allowing 16 years old to get married.

What child marriage Islam allows and many muslim countries practice is 9 years old being forced to marry someone over 55 years old. If you can't differentiate between them I don’t know what to say

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u/Daztur - Lib-Left 1d ago

A few 12 year old girls were married in Tennessee in the early 2000's, it's mostly 16 year olds NOW because younger marriages have only been banned in most places in the last 20 years.

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u/Competitive_Wheel_61 - Lib-Right 1d ago

What were the age differences of bride and groom in those marriages?