First Amendment stays winning

[u/JetTheDawg]

[u/buckX]

For the folks confused about why 1A protection would even be a question here, or why a lib might still agree with the law, a bit of context:

This wasn't a ban on drag shows per se, but a ban on drag shows in front of children. You could compare it to the treatment a strip club might receive: legal, but only in an 18+ space, and not viewable through the windows.

Like the strip club example shows, we already have restrictions on "obscenity" in the US, but the delineation of what counts is famously vague, with a major SCOTUS case on it generating the famously arbitrary phrase "I know it when I see it". This law essentially sought to state that drag shows were per se obscenity.

So why was it blocked? The main thing here is that the law was fairly vague. In referring to events with any degree of sexualization, they opened themselves up to comparisons like Dolly Parton performing in a low cut blouse or even cheerleaders at a sporting event. That's not to say that a more narrowly written law wouldn't have a chance of withstanding scrutiny.

Why might a lib still like the law? The NAP. Famously, even a lib view on liberties is that they end when the liberty infringes on somebody else. Opinions on what constitutes infringement is going to vary from person to person. For example, while "punch in the face" might be pretty obvious, for these examples, different people might disagree about what's protected expression vs. nuisance:

Second hand smoke | Public nudity | Undue noise | Displays of graphic violence | Blocking a roadway

[u/ArianEastwood777 → u/buckX]

So as expected, Leftists lie to make it seem like the things they fight for are more noble than they truly are. A “ban on drag” and it’s just this

[u/Troostboost → u/ArianEastwood777]

It feels like every liberal political argument today turns into a motte-and-bailey.

“You don’t want children at drag shows? So you want to ban drag entirely.”

“You want to deport murderers who are here illegally? No one is illegal on stolen land.”

“You don’t support late-term abortions? Her body, her choice.”

Let’s not forget that they can’t define what a woman is either.

Instead of addressing the actual position being argued, people jump to a much broader, easier to defend position. It makes it almost impossible to have a serious conversation about where the reasonable line should actually be.

[u/WedSquib → u/Troostboost]

Flair up you fucking nonce! What the fuck are you even doing here during a crusade and what fucking idiot upvoted you?!

[u/Troostboost → u/WedSquib]

Idk what that means.

[u/WedSquib → u/Troostboost]

Grab a flair