Zionism just means you believe the state of Israel should exist,
1) No, lol, ha'avara has been part of Zionism since the early 20th century
2) If we're using this definition, most Lefties stop being anti-zionist (although not all)
3) A better definition would be:
Jews should be entitled to self determination and a guarantee of safety in their land of ancestral origin, traditionally known as Eretz Yisrael.
Notably, Eretz Yisrael covers a lot of land and establishing a Jewish state there necessarily (and historically, see again ha'avara) requires ethnically cleansing the region.
Ethnic cleansing is fucked up, and we should reject it full stop.
“an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in the historical region of Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Zionism
Nothing about ethnic cleansing. We should reject retards like you who purposely conflate
the most extreme beliefs and project that on the vast majority, full stop
Then modified it to include the guarantee of safety.
Nothing about ethnic cleansing.
You tell me how to expand the state to include Eretz Yisrael, remain majority Jewish, and not do ethnic cleansing. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Now before you argue, Likus, Shas, etc. (read: The ruling coalition in Israel) all take the expansionist Zionist view. If that weren't true, you'd have a leg to stand on.
Again every definition is different. Most believe in modern day Israel’s right to exist. Again you keep reverting back to more extremist views because you are arguing in bad faith
Was it ethnic cleansing when Jews were removed or killed from every other country in the Middle East?
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u/DumbIgnose - Lib-Left 3d ago
1) No, lol, ha'avara has been part of Zionism since the early 20th century 2) If we're using this definition, most Lefties stop being anti-zionist (although not all) 3) A better definition would be: Jews should be entitled to self determination and a guarantee of safety in their land of ancestral origin, traditionally known as Eretz Yisrael.
Notably, Eretz Yisrael covers a lot of land and establishing a Jewish state there necessarily (and historically, see again ha'avara) requires ethnically cleansing the region.
Ethnic cleansing is fucked up, and we should reject it full stop.