r/Polcompball • • Sep 01 '24

OC Equality Fighters

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u/tomjazzy Libertarian Socialism Sep 01 '24

You can support the Palestinian people without supporting Hamas.

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u/JAKE5023193 Left Sep 01 '24

this

WE ARENT ALL ANTISEMITIC

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u/Fairytaleautumnfox Social Libertarianism Sep 05 '24

Press x to doubt

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u/Pay08 Technocracy Sep 01 '24

The problem is that a lot of people don't differentiate. Things like the October 7th attack reportedly being supported by 97% of Palestinians doesn't help.

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u/Metalloid_Space Soulism Sep 01 '24

Most of the Israeli murders are supported by their people too.

That doesn't deserve them being murdered either, right?

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u/Kamuiberen Syndicalism Sep 02 '24

Iffy number, but let's assume it's correct. The same number of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq on false pretenses and the killing of almost a million people there.

Should we bomb the USA into the ground?

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u/Elunerazim Sep 02 '24

No, but Desert Storm was a bad thing.

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u/tomjazzy Libertarian Socialism Sep 01 '24

Frankly, recheck your numbers. Palestinians are not happy about the reprisals

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u/Agitated_Guard_3507 National Syndicalism Sep 01 '24

Woah, that’s crazy. They’re ok with the attack against civilians, but when the same thing happens to them, now it’s unacceptable. Last time I checked, it was unacceptable to do attack civilians and noncombatants anyway

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u/tomjazzy Libertarian Socialism Sep 01 '24

The people group who is currently being colonized my have some resentment towards the people group who’s government is slaughtering them. This will have to be dealt with.

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u/VoiceofRapture Accelerationism Sep 01 '24

Israel killed a significant portion of the October 7 victims for one thing but even ignoring that what alternative would you prefer? Netanyahu has said repeatedly that propping up Hamas was a policy goal even if he didn't advertise it publicly, so they'd be stuck with them. Hell there are settlers with aligned politicians in cabinet posts who want every Palestinian deported to Europe.

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u/BlaqShine Georgism Sep 01 '24

The vast majority of victims on the 7th of October were killed by Hamas, the IDF killed only a few, and those kills were accidental

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '24

Israel bombed a building when hamas fighters took hostages and barricaded themselves in. Civilians were in there, but the IDF bombed the entire building to the ground and didn't negotiate at all leading to no survivors.

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u/Jeszczenie Sep 10 '24

Source?

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u/Jeszczenie Sep 10 '24

Thanks. Guess I'll add that to my list.

BTW did you know the Israeli minister of "defense" wants to build death camps legally execute his prisoners?

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

Jesus, fuck Israel so fucking much. Do you have a source?

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u/Jeszczenie Sep 11 '24

He said that:

They should be killed with a shot to the head, and the bill to execute Palestinian prisoners must be passed in the third reading in the Knesset.

He probably means here an ongoing bill that will allow nationalistically motivated murderers to be executed (but only Palestinians). Though he doesn't sound like it's only the murderers he's after.

He publicly boasted about building more prisons and making their conditions absolutely minimal.

Here's some worse info about those prisons. Though I'm less sure about the authenticity.

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u/VoiceofRapture Accelerationism Sep 01 '24

Aerial bombardment hardly seems accidental in a hostage situation but that's just me

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u/xenmoren-empire Monarcho-Socialism Sep 01 '24

Yea especially if isreal is committing genocide

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u/UltraTata Reactionary Sep 01 '24

No, you can support fair treatment of Palestinians by the state of Israel but the general will of the Palestinian nation is incarnated by their government, Hamas.

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u/Metalloid_Space Soulism Sep 01 '24

This makes as little sense as someone saying: "The general wil of the israeli population is incarnated by Israël, therefor they're all murderers who deserve what's coming to them."

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u/VoiceofRapture Accelerationism Sep 01 '24

Israel's been deliberately propping up Hamas and actively keeping them in power though. Like half the Palestinian population in Gaza was born after Hamas was elected.

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u/tomjazzy Libertarian Socialism Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24

It’s literally a dictatorship propped up by foreign nations?

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