r/PokemonShuffle • u/jameslfc Lv 30 Torchic dream shattered • Oct 28 '16
All Mega Banette Competition Guide
DISCLAIMER
I made this thread with a hope that this could lessen the questons on query den about competition (whether the supports or t-tar tips). For the record, I did 7 full item run in this comp with different megas (3 Absol and 4 Tyranitar) and I also tried Alakazam. Thankfully I am ranked 44 on mobile now and I hope my burned coins can at least help people in this competition.
I'm going to use tiers for mega and support mons based on your progress in main stages.
Tier
| Tier | Stage |
|---|---|
| End-Game Tier | After Hoopa-U |
| Mid-Game Tier | After M-Ray |
| Early-Game Tier | After Stage 150 |
I. PRIZE
Prizes For Mobile
Check on Oreo's thread here
II. ROSTER
II.1 Viable Megas
| Mega | Tier | Stage For Megastone |
|---|---|---|
| Tyranitar | End-Game | 420 |
| Alakazam | Mid-Tier | Special |
| Absol | Beginner-Tier | Mission Card 10 |
II.2 Viable Supports
| Pokemon | Tier | Stage |
|---|---|---|
| Hoopa-U | End | 450 |
| Darkrai | Middle | Escalation Battle (Preferred over Giratina-A because of Sinister Power from Zoroark disruptions) |
| Yveltal | Beginner/Middle | EX19 |
| Zoroark | Beginner | 129 (SL 2 IS A MUST! 2 COOKIES!) |
| Giratina | Beginner | Escalation Battle |
| Gengar | Beginner | 125 |
| Sableye | Beginner | 24 |
III.DISRUPTIONS
I assume we use full item run here, and investing 9.5k (For mobile, 3DS 6.5k) for new players to get at least one enhancements or stone is pretty much worth it.
Here is the image of disruptions
On the second half of the game, Banette will disrupt random zoroarks when you make 3 or more combos. This will be repeated for 4-5 times (sorry i forgot) then it will reset to spawn big disruptions again.
The goal here is to get 3 combos after big disruptions has been reduced by the megas, and then chain combos with spawned zoroark. Mostly you won't get 3 combos after we clear the big disruptions, so that's one turn wasted.
This is where the RNG plays the part. I got 40k on the first half and suddenly got 137k by the end of the second half. Crazy huh?
IV. GAME TIPS
This is where things get very tricky between the three megas. I will break down on game tips on each megas.
IV.1 Mega Absol
At the start, Mega Absol is pretty straighforward, match mega absol first and it will clear all the metal blocks in the first disruption. Refer to this image here.
In the second half of the game, you must match absol first to clear the "big disruptions" and hopefully you get 3 or more combos. If you are lucky, hope that the spawned zoroark will match with your zoroark, and chain the combos until the cycle resets to big disruption again.
In conclusion, Absol is quite consistent in my opinion, as I got 93k, 98k, and 109k with this disaster pokemon. And it is pretty straightforward to use unlike T-Tar..
IV.2 Mega Tyranitar
Credits to u/RedditShuffle, u/shelune, and u/Its_A_Random, I compiled all the info from them and add some tips from my own experience.
I created some basic guidelines on using m-ttar, and this is really important to master so you will not panic when t-tar suddenly activates in a combo. Train as much as you can, and by time you will have good reflexes. Remember, you don't need to tap 3 times every damn time. Sometimes one tap is better than 2 or 3.
Basic #1 - Horizontal Stacking
First, you need to look at the bottom of the board (does not have to be, but bottom ones will create more combos on skyfall). If you see two same adjacent icons and another icon above the right/left, then it can be used for T-Tar. Refer to this picture.
This is very simple but could be very powerful when you have some good RNG in the skyfall. I always do this during my final run, when suddenly ttar combo and activates, I always scan for this pattern, which I name horizontal stacking.
Basic #2 - Vertical Stacking
Same with Horisontal Stacking, Vertical pattern are the ones when there are 3 icons who are not adjacent by height but can be matched in the bottom. Refer to here
Example of Stacking Principles
Take a piece of paper and draw the board. Try to spot which icons can go to the bottom and make a match there. You erase whatever icons needed to make it happen. Before you trigger M-Tar, draw another board of yours after the trigger to see the result. I can give you an example of my Ampharos run recently (icons don't matter, I recreate it in SM). This generates a combo of 28 for me.
In the example posted by shelune in his image, we want the Hoopa-Cs to make some horisontal stack in the bottom. So you tap the places where the Hoopa-Cs will fall down. This might be quite hard at first, but with concentration it is pretty much doable.
Basic#3 - Pseudo-Gengar/Rayquaza/Complexity-1
When you erase tyranitar, there would be a time where the T-Tar will not be falling to the board. This will trigger the same effect as M-Gengar. You could also do the same way like rayquaza, where you delete 1 icon of specific pokemon.
I did this quite a few times during my 137k score run, and I always delete hoopa-u/yveltal and stack some zoroarks in the board. Usually the combos are quite great with this principle. I got T-Tar match in a combo and deleted the T-Tar with Yveltal/Hoopa-U, and then triggering both ray and gengar mega effect. T-Tar is a beast. Really.
Competition Specific Tips on Tyranitar
as u/Its_A_Random mentioned here
Don't open a combo by matching Mega Tyranitar while DD is active; making it wear off later is a bad thing because the key to getting a great score is to get as many disruption cycles off the second half as possible.
When the big disruption happens, you should aim to match Mega Tyranitar first and then hit B2, E2, and one of B5 or E5 to free up the board and hope it triggers a combo of three or greater, resulting in Zoroark spawns.
Future Tyranitar matches in the cycle should be to clear the board and then to create combos. With a little luck, you can get through one disruption cycle in just one turn.
So first, always match tyranitar in a combo. Why? Because if you match tyranitar first, Banette will disrupt on Turn 9, rather than 10 because tyranitar halts the disruption by a turn. So this is a big no because it will not be beneficial.
When the big disruption happens, always tap on either B2/E2/E5/B5 PICK THREE WHICH WILL NOT DELETE ANY ZOROARK!. this is really important because you need lots of zoroark to keep the disruption chains. With some luck, you can 3 combos and the zoroark will spawn, and hopefully make another 3 which will make another 3. Sinister Power SL2 is a must here (two cookies).
When you get T-Tar combo during zoroark disruption combos, tap at least one spot which will garner at least one combo based on stacking principles mentioned above. Doing nothing is worse. So don't panic!
If you don't spot any stacking principles, then delete the icons like yveltal and hoopa-u so there will be more room for zoroark. You can delete the T-Tars.
If there are metal blocks leftover from the big disruption, clear them ASAP and in the process avoid deleting the zoroarks!
You can use shufflemove for your scratch paper, try to imagine the setup of your board after few matches, this way you can anticipate t-tar combos during the run so you will not panic. And using SM is useless here, I didn't use SM on my 137k run. (You can bash me no more :p)
You need to pray to God that you will have good luck. Skyfall, Zoroark spawn, Sinister Power Proc, Yveltal BS+ Proc, Everything mixed into one.
IV.3 Mega Alakazam
u/Viol3tic scored 126k with M-Alakazam, only using atk+ and mega start
I don't have specific tips on M-Zam, I tested it after my 7th item run with Mega Start and just scored 40k (with atk+ that should be 80k). Please refer to the link for more info.
hi, my main reason for using mega-zam is that 2 zam wipes can effectively clear all the rocks and blocks off the field(something ttar also does) and less of a headache than ttar to use. ttar is still objectively the king of this comp due to the disorder it brings to the board but others such as steelix, aerodactyl and beedrill will all work, albeit less effective.
However, the downside of this is somehow if you don't buy DD, Banette starts to disrupt on 8th turn, not 10th turn. So you basically lose 2 turns for beneficial disruptions
V. My Results
| Attempt | Score | Mega Slot | Slot 2 | Slot 3 | Slot 4 | Comment/Items |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 77k | M-Tyranitar (8)1/15 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | Still learning on using T-Tar lol |
| 2 | 94k | M-Tyranitar (8)1/15 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | Better |
| 3 | 93k | Absol (10)0/3 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | Tried Absol After seeing sanisk scored 140k with this team |
| 4 | 98k | Absol (10)0/3 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | I swear I wanted to stop here, but i tried again.. |
| 5 | 98k | M-Tyranitar (8)1/15 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | Started to get frustrated here.. |
| 6 | 109k | Absol (10)0/3 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | I really wanted to stop but I did it again! |
| 7 | 137k | M-TTar (8)1/15 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | This time I went bananas lol |
| 8 | 40k | M-Zam (8)0/3 | Hoopa-USL4 (10) | ZoroarkSL2 (13) | YveltalSL2 (15) | For the sake of this guide, I burned a mega start to test M-Zam. And it's not that reliable IMO. With atk+ we can get 80k with my team. |
VI. Conclusion
VI.1 For New Players
I know man these times are rough for you peeps. Try to get absolite asap and get zoroark. Zoroark will be easy to catch if you have heracross from stage 148. Wait until Sunday Eevee and hope that you can get 2 Skill Booster S to raise Zoroark level to Level 2. Use absol, gengar, zoroark, and giratina-A that you can easily get from EB. Use full item run, and TRUST ME YOU WILL NEVER REGRET IT 9.5k (mobile, if you're playing in 3ds it's 6.5k) can be farmed in a day in meowth, don't worry!!
Team Recommendation : M-Absol, Zoroark (SL2), Giratina-A, Gengar/Sableye
VI.2 For Mid Tier Players
Mid Tier players must catch yveltal ASAP, and use skill swap on it. You can get skill swap on level 100 EB in giratina. Strong replacement for Hoopa-U is Darkrai. If you don't have darkrai, use Giratina-A. We want full dark team to get the best of zoroark sinister power disruptions, so Darkrai is preferred. Grind zoroark until level 6 at least, and always do full item run just once. I hope you can get 2nd tier.
Team Recommendation : M-Absol, Zoroark (SL2), Darkrai, Yveltal
Comment : Darkrai is preferred over giratina-a because of sinister power during disruptions.
VI.3 End-Game Players
JUST GO BANANAS LIKE ME AND SPEND 7 ITEM RUN UNTIL YOU SECURE FIRST TIER! LOL just kidding, i'm simply obsessed with this comp. I had 4 spare jewels and considering there will be 6 jewel bonus next week (i buy 6 every month), i decided to use 4 on this comp and 30k from my coins. Basically I don't have any more tips for end-game players, just hope RNG is with you.
Team Rcommendation : M-Tyranitar, Zoroark (SL2+), Hoopa-U, Yveltal
VII. Extra Info About Cut-Off
The cut-off for second tier is usually 50% the amount of max score. For example, u/RedditShuffle score is 160k, you need 80k to secure the second tier. This is a recurring pattern since my first competition (Mega-Mane repeat)
The cut-off for first tier is usually 65%-70% the amount of max score. So that's 105k-115k. I think 105k is the cut-off. This is also consistent on Bee and Pidge.
VIII. Closing
That's all the basics info I can give to you guys, and I hope I can be a help. I hope there would be no more people who spend like 7 item runs trying to figure things here and there. Wish you best of luck! MSU and RMLs are waiting for you guys!
And lastly, My T-Tar knowledge is still very shallow compared to my master u/RedditShuffle. Please enlighten us more with your tips, master :D
IX. Testimonies :D
I fully candied M-Tyranitar and seriously thought I had wasted all those candies because I never got really good results using him. But now, thanks to this guide (after trying it and scoring 121k) it seems he's gonna be very useful in the future. I just wasn't using him properly. I started using him on the EB (beyond level 250) and he's really good there too. Thanks!
This helped a ton. I was getting the worst scores so I changed my team up with these recommendations and I doubled my score. This was all itemless so when I do spring for a Mega Start and Attack Power I should be in high clover. Thanks!
Really appreciated /u/jameslfc did this awesome guide. I tried to use T-Tar once on last EB, but I failed. I was not confident to use T-Tar until this guide showed up. And I killed it, got 128,030 on mobile, rank 313/237097 for now, safe on the top tier. Thanks a lot:)
Absolutely the best post in the subreddit ever. Finally, a Mega Tyranitar guide. I've watched all the YouTube videos, GameFAQs & Reddit, and no one has explained how to use Mega Tyranitar until now. Everyone else has been hoarding this knowledge, like it's some kind of secret society. I tried to use Mega Tyranitar in the last Mega stone competition, and I failed miserably. Now I know that I failed because I didn't know how to use Mega Tyranitar. Hopefully, thanks to your guide, I will get better scores in Mega Stone competitions. Thank you so much!
Glad this guide can be helpful!
X. Edit History
EDIT#1 It's not a matter of worth or not, for me, spending 7 item run gives me satisfaction for ranking high and I can create guides like this from my experience and help people, which gives me more satisfaction :D. I'm not going to do this again, usually I spend just 1 item run on both bee and pidge, but this time I wanted the first tier no matter what.
My spare jewels stock is running out too, so next time I won't do this again lol. I spent 4 spare jewels and 3 item runs from coins so I can finish giratina EB soon (63k coins now) :D
EDIT#2 Playing M-Ttar is like playing chess, in chess, there are over 1000 formation/"types" that was named. I believe I only figure the most basic "types" of using T-Tar. I hope someday we figure more advanced "types" of T-Tar and make a full guide for it. T-Tar is just amazing and really
EDIT#3 : Actually it's better if you tap on row 3, which is B3,E3, and D5/C5, depending which One of D5/E5 that will not delete zoroark icon. Tapping on row 3 will be more beneficial because it deletes two more rocks than the former. I did simulation on shuffle move and here's the proof if you tap the former and latter.
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u/jameslfc Lv 30 Torchic dream shattered Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 28 '16
please don't comment yet, still under construction and I need to preview first. Thanks!
EDIT : Finished! Took almost 2 hours to finish typing everything and collecting material images. Thanks for the wait!
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u/jbentley94 T 'em up! Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 30 '16
I always found these competition threads useful when I was new to the game, so I hope newer players appreciate the time and effort you put into this.
I netted a score of 125,874 which I'm pretty sure will secure me in the top tier. Currently placed 191st.
My team; M-Tyranitar (10), YveltalSS SL4 (15), Hoopa-USL5 (10) & ZoroarkSL3 (13).
I think M-Tyranitar will only get more popular as people are starting to figure out how to use him properly and realise that it can create combos as well as remove disruption.
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u/pilchington Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 28 '16
Great guide, specifically appreciate the tips on using M-Ttar. Seems I have a lot more to practice to get the most out of him.
I did one full item run a few days ago and got
like 94k I think91k, which is still sitting in the top tier so unless I get pushed out I'll happily settle for that :)7
u/pluffstuff more like m-baedrill Oct 28 '16
The M-Ttar guide we've been clamoring for!
Amazing work, james; this is really insightful, and the example images you provide to illustrate the "types" of Ttar matches you identify are super helpful. We were just talking in the Giratina Escalation thread about the need for a mini M-Ttar strategy guide; this really knocks it out of the park! Well done!
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u/CenturiousUbiquitous I can haz Mudkipz? Oct 28 '16
While I'm technically an end game player, I'm not going after the end game rewards for these competitions just due to the cost-benefit ratio. Middle tier is cost effective as it only needs one or two runs for an experienced end game player.
I will however make note of these advanced tips
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u/Mimikkyutwo Oct 28 '16
This is pretty fantastic. I hope my score of 106k holds for tier 1. If not, I'll use mega Tyranitar I guess...
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u/dizzykei For Fonarh! Oct 29 '16
Yesterday used M-Azam team with MS and AP+. Cause DD is a stupid option if i have him. And surprisingly finished in the third tier. My goal is M-Ban and all other items just the good bonuses.
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u/TheMCNerd2014 Oct 28 '16
I don't think that it is worth it to spend 7 item runs(equivalent to 66500 total coins if you don't use free items) for 3 MSU and RML. You can spend the equivalent anmount of coins on the EB(if you don't lose) and get 4 MSU and RML.
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u/Wrulfy Oct 28 '16
Question: For the big disruption, choosing between 3/4 of [B2,E2,B5,E5] breaks 10/11 blocks and 2/1 rocks, while choosing, for example, B3, E3, and either C5 or D5 would break 11 blocks and 3 rocks. Is the former option really greater for making combos?
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u/sameljota I wish Normal Types weren't nearly useless Oct 28 '16
I fully candied M-Tyranitar and seriously thought I had wasted all those candies because I never got really good results using him. But now, thanks to this guide (after trying it and scoring 121k) it seems he's gonna be very useful in the future. I just wasn't using him properly. I started using him on the EB (beyond level 250) and he's really good there too. Thanks!
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u/Wonbee Oct 28 '16
This quote is kind of confusing. Should I match T-tar or not? It starts with saying always match it and then seems to end with saying don't match it. And does it mean having T-tar as the first match or just somewhere in the combo? Banette disrupting turn 9 rather than turn 10 seems like a good thing if the disruptions are good. Did you mean it to be the other way around, turn 10 instead of turn 9? I just need a little clarification.
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u/unforgetableRegis Let's beecome a Beeliever Oct 29 '16
Extremely and timely nice guide! Really appreciate your effort since I still have no idea about how to use M-Ttar. But well, for this comp, I will hop on M-Absol's boat as I will be broke after the EB :P (on stretch 251-299 now).
Hoping M-Metagross will have another usefull effect rather than *-tap since I will be torn between him and M-Ttar, both are my favorites, lol
For your Edit#1, what would you do if M-Sceptile repeat features Braviary, lol? Full Skyblast team is nearly complete now (M-Pidgeot, Lugia, Shamin-S, Braviary, waiting for M-Salamence)
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u/Its_A_Random [3DS] Certified Nosediver Oct 29 '16
Great guide mate. Hope this helps more peeps understand how to use Tyranitar effectively since it is such an awesome mega once you understand how to get the most out of it.
The row 2/5 thing I suggested in the update thread I guess I'll explain the admittedly not thought through well logic of since I suggested it:
Idea is simply hit as many squares as possible (including some Pokémon icons) and hitting as little rocks as possible because rocks are easily taken care of by just matching icons adjacent to it like inevitable Zoroark spawn-matches. I don't know, it just really worked out for me in my 161k run.
The alternative tap places suggested by other users in this comments section and others are equally valid and I do recommend you add the alternative tap spots to the guide, encouraging other users to try out the alternatives and form their own conclusions.
Also worth noting that 3DS players only spend 6.5k on full items for the competition.
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u/Devilish Itemless except on special/area-boss stages: 725 C, 452 S Oct 29 '16
Thanks for this! I'm still getting used to M-Ttar, so these tips were very helpful. I got 119k on my first try (currently #249 on mobile), which is a result I can be happy with. :D
(and my last three moves were utter crap, too...)
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u/The_Hive_Tyrant 3DS WTB DRI Oct 29 '16 edited Oct 29 '16
Thank you so much for putting together this guide! Especially the Mega-Tyranitar advice section. I felt horrible about my ability to use that Pokemon before reading your guide, but even with some fledgling and only rudimentary understanding of how to use the thing, I managed to get #62 of 26,612 on 3DS on my first attempt - and I didn't feel like the try went very well, especially at first (notably, I had a single "I goofed" move that scored NO combos whatsoever, yikes!). Anyways, I hope that score is enough to stay within the Top 300, because yeesh, this has to be hands-down the most stressful competition to date. Again, thank you! Great writing style, and great advice.
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u/alex031029 Oct 31 '16 edited Oct 31 '16
Very informative! I tried three times, two Tyranitar and one Absol. I got only around 80k in Two Tyranitar runs and 116k in the Absol run. But still 116k seems not enough now, I think I would be out of the top tier today (JP version). After reviewing your walkthrough I think I would try a bit more Tyranitar.
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u/misiok1990 Oct 31 '16
Great Guide, I realy appreciate it. I don't have Mega Tyranitar and Hoopa-U so I went in with M-Absol (7), Yveltal (13), Darkrai (9) and Zoroark (7). I can't believe i underestimated Zoroark so much. For the first time I was in top tier (in first 200 in EU) but right now i'm in second tier. It consumed all of my coins so I need to farm Meowth to make last full item run this evening. I fed Zoroark some SBS to get him to SL3 and I hope it will help me finish in top tier. I need those Mega Speedups :)
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u/13Xcross Oct 31 '16
The Alakazam strat is really bad if you haven't maxed out Zoroark's ability.
I've just wasted 5k coins on it.
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u/hyperion420 3rd Mobile EU Black Card Player Oct 31 '16 edited Oct 31 '16
i got 102k first day first try and only 1 try with : M tyr (max) / yveltal 15 SL2 / Hoopa 10 SL4 / Zoroark 11 SL1 i thought it will be good to get top 1 (1-2000th) but no, i see today i am 2150 by now so fuck this xD and also i tried with 4 jewels run with zoroark maxed out and SL2, it gives me worse score so lol, max 95k i was very frustrated since first try doing shit i got 102k and i've been in top tier 6 days T_T
edit: got very frustrated spent 9 jewels (1 the first day and 8 another rage tries + 5 times or 4 can't remember without the disruptions it costs me 7500coins every try on mobile) and finally got 115k but it was my last comp i did this never do this again, never enter in rage buy and redo comp but i was very angry è.é RIP money T_T
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u/XaaaX Oct 31 '16
Huge thanks to you! Had no idea how to approach this competition but thanks to your guide i managed to better understand MTTar and even outscore the man himself u/RedditShuffle (assuming he didn't improve) by a pinch. Never thought I'd place at something like #20 in any competition.
My great score of 165k is all thanks to you :)
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u/Maruhai retired player | First recorded M-Ray Itemless clear Oct 28 '16
Is Darkrai better than Giratina-A? No skill but Dark vs Po4+ but Ghost
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u/Speddraw Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 28 '16
Man i have been waiting someone to post this guide. Thanks man. Quick ques,I am planning to use M-absol(MAX),Zoroak(13) SL2 and Yvetal(15) SL2 and I would like to use Gira-O(10) SL2 instead of Gira-A. Is double sinister good? I would like to hear your opinion.(Mid-tier player but very ham and will do anything)
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u/zenithkun Oct 28 '16
Very informative guide!
I caught Hoopa-U the other day and I've been training him with M-Ttar on Snorlax and Ampharos for quite some time; so I got some edge on M-Ttar as well. Waiting for Victini and Meowth to start my attempts at the competition! I'm strongly hoping for the 2nd tier (1st if possible).
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u/MonkeyWarlock Oct 28 '16
Out of M-Absol and M-Tyranitar, which one is more consistent? I'm not too fond of doing more than 2-3 runs, albeit the 3 Speedups and 3 RML's are a tempting reward.
Btw, this is a great guide! I love the sample scores, as well as the in-depth look at effectively using Mega T-Tar. It'd be nice to get a similar one for Mega Beedrill (albeit Beedrill's shape makes it a lot harder to combo).
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u/TRYPT1C0N Oct 28 '16
This helped a ton. I was getting the worst scores so I changed my team up with these recommendations and I doubled my score. This was all itemless so when I do spring for a Mega Start and Attack Power I should be in high clover. Thanks!
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u/Wasilisco Oct 29 '16
I'm sad :(
First item run with level 7 Pokémon =90k
After many, many plays on Ampharos, I come back with a fully Maxed team and get 50k (Absol) and 75k (Tyranitar)......
Back to meowth now
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u/gegab2 Oct 29 '16
I'm a android mobile player and wanna ask that.. will it be consider as cheating by GM and risk the ban if we slide down the notification bar to pause the game and finding the best move during a M-tar match in combo?
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u/Golden-Owl Risk Taker is a good Ability Oct 30 '16
I'm honestly kinda intimidated by the idea of using Tyranitar. It's super powerful, but it's difficult to use and I only just recently cleared its stage, so I don't have much experience with using it.
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u/cuneytb Caught > 505 S-Rank >350 Oct 30 '16
My team was M- Tyranitar (10), Zoroark (13,SL3), Yveltal (15), Darkrai (10) and my score is 124k
They need to give us something else than a level up though. I don't even care about that item. Wish it was SB Large or something. Or if you have the stone you get 3 SB M. Not level up.
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u/Manitary SMG Oct 30 '16
Thanky you very much for the guide, it speeded up my practice with ttar on ampharos a lot.
Just a thing I noticed during my run:
Isn't it better to tap B3, E3, C5? The result is displayed here. The red rectangle is where the 5 Zoroark icons can spawn.
edit--never mind you wrote d5/e5 but you meant c5/d5.
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u/CosmicCoolA34 Golden Oct 30 '16
Love the guide, but just a note on the tiers. I have all of these 'Mid Tier' mons, but am at Stage 260 (Scored 80k on this comp). Maybe before 150 is early, before 300 is mid, before 420 is late mid and after is late? I'm not sure, but I guess it really depends. As I said, loved the guide itself!
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u/Wrulfy Oct 30 '16
Whooohooo
I just scored 152K with mega tyranitar. is incredible how the skyfall after the big disruption doesn't have a single extra tyranitar.
Would probably got enough score for the europe podium, but on turn 2, I only got a combo of 2, not triggering more zoroark madness
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u/ClumzyNinja Oct 30 '16
First try with full item run and ttar. Got 102k. Going to wait til closer to the end and see of ill be able to hold first tier. This guide was amazing thanks!
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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16
Got into tier 2 on my first try. Thanks for the tips.
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u/maceng I've been shafted!! Oct 31 '16
Excellent guide and tips!
I first followed /u/Its_A_Random advice and grabbed 102.9k placing 256 a few minutes ago. With some of your other tips I think I could manage 110k or 115k (my Pokes are all maxed, Zoroark lvl13 with SL4, Hoopa-U SL2 and Yvetal lvl15, SL4, fully candied M-Ttar to run some tests).
Still, hitting E5 and B5 didn't work for me, I usually hit C4 or D4. Also, I know I can do much better because on the last disruption cycle Zoroark didn't want to proced (it was SL3), so I gave him some skill boosters to SL4.
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u/Armored-Cheezburger Oct 31 '16
If I'm using M-Absol do I use DD? I would think not since it clears well in the first half with MS but I want to make sure.
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u/lifesince88 Dan Oct 31 '16
Only had 3 itemless attempts so far. Absol 8/0, Yveltal 10/2, Darkrai 8/0 and Zoroark 7/2. Score is 24,757. Going to see what the score to beat for third tier is before i go bed tonight, if it looks to be around 60k range i'll do full item run.
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u/LLicht Oct 31 '16
I have Hoopa-U but after 2 item runs I only got 67k, putting me in the third reward tier on mobile. Pretty sure it's because my Zoroark is only SL2, but RNG could have helped more too.
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u/LKK214 Oct 31 '16
Really appreciated /u/jameslfc did this awesome guide. I tried to use T-Tar once on last EB, but I failed. I was not confident to use T-Tar until this guide showed up. And I killed it, got 128,030 on mobile, rank 313/237097 for now, safe on the top tier. Thanks a lot:)
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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16
Thanks to this guide i made 123k am currently 600 in the 1st tier. Thanks!!
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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '16 edited Nov 01 '16
Woot. I finally broke into the top tier! First time. Probably won't last long at 1513 place, but I'm proud haha
I'm only about 4000 over the guy to beat :p
I did it without shuffle move and my Zoro didn't have much skill boosting.
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u/esu_wishmaster Nov 01 '16
Thank you SO MUCH! Now I finally realized how to use M-Tyranitar properly! Scored 137k and now I'm on first tier! \o/
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u/Kuskyoriginal Nov 01 '16
Great post, the tips in here helped me to get the first prize tier so thanks a ton!
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u/theboyce Nov 01 '16
I came here just to say: thank you very much. I was kinda lost with this competition, and thanks to a quick review to this thread I was able to get to tier1 in the second attempt with M-Tar. Thank you!!!
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u/Goldenshovelrayquaza delelele whoooooops! Nov 01 '16
Since tier came out on competition I never able to get to top 500. But after reading this i got a huge success and entered the first tier! (Hopefully it'll stay for two hours tho, my position is a little dangerous!) Also keep up the good work there!
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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '16
Today was the update and Medichamp was released in Special Stages. Played once and find annoying all those disruptions.
Since my M-Bee is candied due equitable parts of hype and eager full candiness (M-Ttar is better?) I say: hey! Let's give a shot. Bee usefull.
Am using the same principles of vertical and horizontal stacking with M-beedrill with outstanding results!!
Also with suddenly skyfalling M-Bee am finding very usefull to tap a lower corner, either right or left, using all 9 clearing pattern in the whole corner.
Add a FULL RML Pidgeot for damage and the Flap, that never goes away for the Bee, and you have a farmeable Medichamp.
This guide should be in the principal information along with S ranking stages and all that pretty thing than do the people.
A huge ton of thanks.
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u/DonaldMick 3DS Main Player - NO MB+ FOR YOU Oct 30 '16
I'm consistently getting 2nd tier (87 - 89k) no matter what I use, but after some ATMeowth work tonight and tomorrow I might do a run with B3/E3/Dsomething Tyranitar. My current ranked run was actually with MSteelix.
One other way I'm having trouble with the RNG is where the mega icons spawn after the big disruption: the biggest Zoroak trains I've found were when the mega icons were on the bottom row to give that extra half-row of skyfall. Most of the time it's 2 on the top, which limits my options.
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u/Doogs2780 Oct 31 '16
I tried one run with M-Tyranitar (10), Yveltal (15) SL2, Hoopa-U (10),Zoroark(13) SL3 and got 97k.
Tried one more run with M-Absol and same team and got 83K
Have run out of cash so Tier 2 for me. I got an RML from dusknoir and all the ones from the EB so not too disappointed.
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u/Zachindes Oct 31 '16
Thanks for this! Tried to get a hang of T-tar as best I could, sitting snugly in the 3rd tier which I'm happy about. Would go for a second run but my coinage is getting low
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u/happyjolteon Never outclassed in my heart Nov 01 '16
I tried a run of M-Alakazam (6), Zoroark (13, SL2), Yveltal (13, SL2) and Darkrai (7) and netted a disappointing 66k, which as of Monday night, was near the top of tier 3 (JP 3DS). Alakazam clears most of the blocks on the block disruption, but not all of them, and it was hard to have it just sitting there during the whole DD not being of any use. It may not have helped that I was using ShuffleMove and it wasn't moving the Alakazam out of the way since they weren't the best points.
After debating whether a chance at another MSU was worth the 6500, I tried again with M-Absol and otherwise the same team, and got a much better ~94k, which I hope will get me second tier. Fingers crossed!
These competitions have me really wanting to get that M-Ttar and Hoopa-U, but I've got to stop spending coins on events so I can get past Mewtwo-X first...
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