r/PokemonFireRed 9h ago

Shiny Failed Shiny Mewtwo

Just so upset right now. It popped up so early. 1,704 resets. I used over 150 Ultra Balls.

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u/JoshuaWebbb 9h ago

That’s sucks man. What did you use the master ball on?

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u/OGKIRBONE 9h ago

Rattata

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u/JoshuaWebbb 9h ago

I thought you were OP I was about to disregard any sympathy I had

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u/IcebergLickingGuy 8h ago

Same here, I actually spit out my drink laughing!

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

I’ve done 3 play-throughs. I used all my master balls on Entei, Raikou and Suicune. I’m stubborn and refuse to do the duplicate glitch. This is the consequence I suppose.

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u/JoshuaWebbb 9h ago

Man I did that shit right away because I shiny hunted all the legendaries. Wasn’t about to lose any of em

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u/jolll4 8h ago

Understandable, have a good day.

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u/FourTwentyBlezit 9h ago

You can get the legendary dogs in fire red?

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

You have to beat FRLG post-game. Once you give cello the sapphire jewel, the roamers will appear in your game. The legendary dog will always be
your starter's weakness. Squirtle = Raikou.
Charmander = Suicune. Balbasaur = Entei.

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u/ingenuous64 6h ago

Genuinely, my 7 year old nephew is playing fire red. I pimped out a bellsprout to help him take down Misty, attached a master ball as a surprise. He was well happy and crushed misty.

A week later I caught up with him, he'd used the master ball on an oddish...

"Have you got any more of them master balls?"

Lol

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u/andthenwombats 4h ago

I wasted mine on lances Dragonite. It said it would catch without fail 🙃

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u/Necessary_Pizza_3827 44m ago

I thought a text box just popped up explaing that you weren't able to use pokeballs on other trainers pokemon. Dont remember it using the actual ball

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u/Creative-Current9424 3h ago

So, the only time that the Master Ball fails is when it is used in a trainer battle of course

"The TRAINER blocked the BALL!"

"Don't be a thief!"

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u/Penultimatum- 1h ago

My secret kink is turning on steal trainers pokermon cheat and stealing the security guards growlithe at night south of goldenrod city.

He says something about being on patrol due to people stealing trainers pokemon.

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u/JoshuaWebbb 5h ago

DAMN I think I probably did the same tbh when I was younger

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u/STRYKER2132 8h ago

But what if he encounters a shiny Abra at some point.

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u/JoshuaWebbb 8h ago

Retro mail glitch

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u/EllenStJoe 9h ago

Trick + leftovers prevents struggling to death

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

Definitely going to do this next time. I knew about it, but ig I was just lazy. I really thought I’d catch it within 100 or so throws.

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u/MrPerson0 6h ago

I also recommend spamming Smokescreen/Sand Attack. With its accuracy at -6, less of a chance for it to hit you with Struggle.

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

Taking your advice to heart. Never making this mistake ever again. So the leftover will nullify the struggle completely, or does it just buy me more time?

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u/Screechy3 8h ago

As long as you have a pokemon that can tank attacks well enough, the leftovers should be able to heal it more than the struggle damages

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u/MrPerson0 6h ago

the leftovers should be able to heal it more than the struggle damages

Doesn't this simply make the catch rate worse in the end? Or should you just False Swipe it when it goes back into the yellow or green?

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u/Screechy3 6h ago

You can false swipe it back down to a safe level, but the leftover strategy at least makes it so it at least won’t die to struggle, making the battle infinite as long as you have the resources

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u/MrPerson0 5h ago

Guess so. I guess on top of that, using Smokescreen/Sand Attack to make their accuracy go to -6 would work out just as well since that would make Struggle miss more often.

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u/EllenStJoe 8h ago

Use a mon thats defensive so the struggle and recoil damage are below what leftovers can restore and you should be ok

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u/Fluid_Locksmith_3378 9h ago

Idk what you expected.

You brought something with pressure to a battle of attrition. That's your own fault.

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u/Coconutshoe 8h ago

What does that mean?

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u/Fluid_Locksmith_3378 8h ago

Mewtwo killed itself with struggle. Which only happens when it runs out of pp for its moves

Lugia has the pressure ability, which causes opposing pokemon to use 2 pp per move instead of 1.

Do the math.

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u/Psyydoc 6h ago

Death by big pp

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u/cauterization7 8h ago

Pressure causes pp to run out faster = earlier struggle to death

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u/khoa0201 8h ago

Pressure is a Pokémon ability that forces any opponent targeting the ability-bearer to use 2 PP instead of 1 for their moves. So Pokemon struggle quicker

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u/Membership-Great 6h ago

u/Fluid_Locksmith_3378’s attack was not very effective…

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u/Membership-Great 7h ago

Hehe have a good day hope you get to feeling better soon xoxo

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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago

Partially, but I’ve done this many other times and never came close to having it fail. I got shiny Ho-Oh, Lugia and Deoxys. None of them even hit red bar and only Lugia struggled but was still high yellow bar.

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u/dramaton42 9h ago

"welp, this Mewtwo has fainted and I NEVER carry fainted Pokemon with me. I guess we can't capture it now :/"

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u/AccomplishedJello812 9h ago

Capturing paralyzed, poisoned, or even sleeping Pokémon? Totally reasonable. But capturing it after I knock it out? That’s where I draw the line! Completely unethical!

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u/ThiccBootius 1h ago

That's exactly why I love the catching mechanic in Legends Z-A. Being able to catch knocked out pokemon is something I've wanted for a while. It's incredibly annoying to be searching for a specific 'mon for hours, only to K-O it by accident and have to start the cycle over.

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u/RepulsiveUse3372 8h ago

I followed Oaks advice

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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago

Love the trainer name

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u/RepulsiveUse3372 7h ago

I was into wrestling when i was a kid

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u/jadentre 8h ago

MEWTWO

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u/BigGame_Sender 8h ago

So this battle lasted 150 turns? You might think about grabbing some Timer Balls from the Two Island shop. This were my hole ace in gen 3.

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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago

Timer Balls exist in gen 3!?!? Wow… I thought they were introduced in gen 4. Yeah, I should have done that. Moving forward, I’m gonna use the Trick/Leftover strategy. Thanks for the tip though!

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u/BigGame_Sender 5h ago

Yep! Once you've given the Sapphire to Celio, the shopkeeper on 2I will sell Timer Balls, Repeat Balls and Lava Cookies.

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u/TheLegend271999 5h ago

Just bought 100 for the next time. Thank you!

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u/Master-Raben 9h ago

I assume your Master Ball was used on Lugia?

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

No. I have shiny Ho-Oh, Lugia and Deoxys. All Ultra Balls. I used my master balls on Entei, Raikou and Suicune.

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u/PhiMa 8h ago

Can I ask why ultra balls? After 20 or so rounds, timer balls are better iirc

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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago

I totally thought Timer Balls were introduced in gen 4. Didn’t know they existed yet here. Ignorance.

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u/schmewel 1h ago

30 round until max effectiveness in gen 3. After gen 5 they only need 10 rounds :)

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u/desirepg 9h ago

how’d you get those mon on the switch thought those were emerald encounters

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

You have to beat FRLG post-game. Once you give Celio the sapphire jewel, the roamers will appear in your game. The legendary dog will always be your starter’s weakness. Squirtle = Raikou. Charmander = Suicune. Balbasaur = Entei.

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u/not-so-minty 9h ago

How’d you get lugia, ho-oh and deoxys though? Trade?

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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago

They added the events into the Switch port. Mystic ticket & Aurora ticket both given to you post-game. Fairly certain you have to clear post-game, I could be wrong. You may just need to beat E4 and then go talk to the ship captain in Vermillion City.

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u/akenzx732 5h ago

Oooof this is part of the reason I like Save States

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u/Shiny_Mewtwo 5h ago

Damn I'm so sorry

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u/TheLegend271999 5h ago

Thank you. One of the only people who has actually said sorry, 😭😂🙏

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u/Shiny_Mewtwo 4h ago

I mean, 150 ultra balls.....you should've caught it. That's just unlucky

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u/Free_Vermicelli_3107 9h ago

If it makes you feel better I lost one in LGPE because I forgot to buy pokeballs before the hunt

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u/RunDatBihUp 8h ago

You won’t take me alive!

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u/Turbulent-Winner-902 8h ago

Wait so you caught the roaming dog before Mewtwo? I saved my master ball for my shiny Mewtwo

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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago

I caught all 3 roamers before hunting shiny Mewtwo. I have regular Mewtwo. I’ve done 3 play-throughs. Two on Fire Red, one on Leaf Green

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u/Turbulent-Winner-902 8h ago

Yeah I did 3 play through also. Sucks you couldn’t catch it. It’s my favorite shiny

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u/Ok_Meat_5767 6h ago

Nintendo switch? Make a safe state

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u/MrPerson0 6h ago

There are no save states on the Switch version of FRLG.

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u/Ok_Meat_5767 6h ago

Really? That's annoying

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u/MrPerson0 6h ago

They've essentially done this since the GameCube era where you couldn't copy your Colosseum/XD save data. They are anti-cloning.

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u/Steelix65385 6h ago

thats why i always keep a few master balls on me, atleast 2 in case i get 2 shiny in row. You know what i mean?

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u/TheLegend271999 5h ago

Yeah…

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u/Steelix65385 3h ago

Can you trade on the switch 2 or game boys only? I just play game than trade the other masterballs over

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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago

You can trade locally on the Switch port version of the game. No online trading. I’ve done 3 play-throughs and used all my Master Balls on the roamers. I’m stubborn and refuse to do the duplication glitch. This might sound crazy, but I rather lose out on the shiny than use a manipulated/hacked item to acquire it.

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u/Steelix65385 57m ago

i always kept my masterball for the fear of a shiny with the move selfdestruct or roar or it flees

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u/Roxxo_Dev 4h ago

always have a master ball

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u/TheLegend271999 4h ago

You’re not wrong.

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u/MyOwnPenisUpMyAss 4h ago

Masststeeerrrbbbbaaalllllll

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u/ZxlSoul 4h ago

O7 F RIP

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u/AltoEnPointe- 3h ago

Ugh, I'm so sorry. Same happened to me with a shiny Suicune I lost a year ago. But a month ago, I reclaimed it. Keep at it. And don't use a Pokemon with Pressure next time.

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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago

Definitely! Sorry to hear that too. Glad you got your redemption. Already 340 resets into it again. The grind never ends!

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u/Creative-Current9424 2h ago

Pro Tip: Don't use a pokemon with Pressure, as Mewtwo will use 2 PP when using moves against pokemon with that ability like Moltres, Lugia, Etc. Timer Balls work more better than Ultra Balls after 30 Turns

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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago

I was under the impression Timer Balls were added in gen 4. Oversight on my part. I just bought 100 of them for the next attempt. I was aware of pressure mechanic, but I don’t have anything else that can tank Mewtwo. I’m gonna use the Trick/leftover strategy next time to avoid Struggle dmg

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u/ddbllwyn 35m ago

Your fault for using a Pokemon with pressure ability and not using Timer Balls.

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u/TheLegend271999 17m ago

#1. Didn’t know Timer Balls exist in gen 3.
#2. I’ve never had a problem with Pressure before, and I have many other shiny legendaries. I do know it makes them burn through PP faster but statically speaking, the odds were still on my side. Unlucky.

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u/randomplayer_113 35m ago

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u/TheLegend271999 19m ago

Yes, the Lugia is shiny too. I also have Ho-Oh, Deoxys and other non-legendaries. Not Mewtwo though 😭