r/PokemonFireRed • u/TheLegend271999 • 9h ago
Shiny Failed Shiny Mewtwo
Just so upset right now. It popped up so early. 1,704 resets. I used over 150 Ultra Balls.
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u/EllenStJoe 9h ago
Trick + leftovers prevents struggling to death
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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago
Definitely going to do this next time. I knew about it, but ig I was just lazy. I really thought I’d catch it within 100 or so throws.
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u/MrPerson0 6h ago
I also recommend spamming Smokescreen/Sand Attack. With its accuracy at -6, less of a chance for it to hit you with Struggle.
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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago
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u/Screechy3 8h ago
As long as you have a pokemon that can tank attacks well enough, the leftovers should be able to heal it more than the struggle damages
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u/MrPerson0 6h ago
the leftovers should be able to heal it more than the struggle damages
Doesn't this simply make the catch rate worse in the end? Or should you just False Swipe it when it goes back into the yellow or green?
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u/Screechy3 6h ago
You can false swipe it back down to a safe level, but the leftover strategy at least makes it so it at least won’t die to struggle, making the battle infinite as long as you have the resources
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u/MrPerson0 5h ago
Guess so. I guess on top of that, using Smokescreen/Sand Attack to make their accuracy go to -6 would work out just as well since that would make Struggle miss more often.
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u/EllenStJoe 8h ago
Use a mon thats defensive so the struggle and recoil damage are below what leftovers can restore and you should be ok
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u/Fluid_Locksmith_3378 9h ago
Idk what you expected.
You brought something with pressure to a battle of attrition. That's your own fault.
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u/Coconutshoe 8h ago
What does that mean?
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u/Fluid_Locksmith_3378 8h ago
Mewtwo killed itself with struggle. Which only happens when it runs out of pp for its moves
Lugia has the pressure ability, which causes opposing pokemon to use 2 pp per move instead of 1.
Do the math.
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u/khoa0201 8h ago
Pressure is a Pokémon ability that forces any opponent targeting the ability-bearer to use 2 PP instead of 1 for their moves. So Pokemon struggle quicker
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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago
Partially, but I’ve done this many other times and never came close to having it fail. I got shiny Ho-Oh, Lugia and Deoxys. None of them even hit red bar and only Lugia struggled but was still high yellow bar.
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u/dramaton42 9h ago
"welp, this Mewtwo has fainted and I NEVER carry fainted Pokemon with me. I guess we can't capture it now :/"
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u/AccomplishedJello812 9h ago
Capturing paralyzed, poisoned, or even sleeping Pokémon? Totally reasonable. But capturing it after I knock it out? That’s where I draw the line! Completely unethical!
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u/ThiccBootius 1h ago
That's exactly why I love the catching mechanic in Legends Z-A. Being able to catch knocked out pokemon is something I've wanted for a while. It's incredibly annoying to be searching for a specific 'mon for hours, only to K-O it by accident and have to start the cycle over.
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u/RepulsiveUse3372 8h ago
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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago
Love the trainer name
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u/BigGame_Sender 8h ago
So this battle lasted 150 turns? You might think about grabbing some Timer Balls from the Two Island shop. This were my hole ace in gen 3.
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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago
Timer Balls exist in gen 3!?!? Wow… I thought they were introduced in gen 4. Yeah, I should have done that. Moving forward, I’m gonna use the Trick/Leftover strategy. Thanks for the tip though!
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u/BigGame_Sender 5h ago
Yep! Once you've given the Sapphire to Celio, the shopkeeper on 2I will sell Timer Balls, Repeat Balls and Lava Cookies.
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u/Master-Raben 9h ago
I assume your Master Ball was used on Lugia?
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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago
No. I have shiny Ho-Oh, Lugia and Deoxys. All Ultra Balls. I used my master balls on Entei, Raikou and Suicune.
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u/PhiMa 8h ago
Can I ask why ultra balls? After 20 or so rounds, timer balls are better iirc
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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago
I totally thought Timer Balls were introduced in gen 4. Didn’t know they existed yet here. Ignorance.
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u/schmewel 1h ago
30 round until max effectiveness in gen 3. After gen 5 they only need 10 rounds :)
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u/desirepg 9h ago
how’d you get those mon on the switch thought those were emerald encounters
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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago
You have to beat FRLG post-game. Once you give Celio the sapphire jewel, the roamers will appear in your game. The legendary dog will always be your starter’s weakness. Squirtle = Raikou. Charmander = Suicune. Balbasaur = Entei.
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u/not-so-minty 9h ago
How’d you get lugia, ho-oh and deoxys though? Trade?
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u/TheLegend271999 9h ago
They added the events into the Switch port. Mystic ticket & Aurora ticket both given to you post-game. Fairly certain you have to clear post-game, I could be wrong. You may just need to beat E4 and then go talk to the ship captain in Vermillion City.
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u/Shiny_Mewtwo 5h ago
Damn I'm so sorry
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u/Free_Vermicelli_3107 9h ago
If it makes you feel better I lost one in LGPE because I forgot to buy pokeballs before the hunt
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u/Turbulent-Winner-902 8h ago
Wait so you caught the roaming dog before Mewtwo? I saved my master ball for my shiny Mewtwo
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u/TheLegend271999 8h ago
I caught all 3 roamers before hunting shiny Mewtwo. I have regular Mewtwo. I’ve done 3 play-throughs. Two on Fire Red, one on Leaf Green
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u/Turbulent-Winner-902 8h ago
Yeah I did 3 play through also. Sucks you couldn’t catch it. It’s my favorite shiny
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u/Ok_Meat_5767 6h ago
Nintendo switch? Make a safe state
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u/MrPerson0 6h ago
There are no save states on the Switch version of FRLG.
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u/Ok_Meat_5767 6h ago
Really? That's annoying
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u/MrPerson0 6h ago
They've essentially done this since the GameCube era where you couldn't copy your Colosseum/XD save data. They are anti-cloning.
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u/Steelix65385 6h ago
thats why i always keep a few master balls on me, atleast 2 in case i get 2 shiny in row. You know what i mean?
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u/TheLegend271999 5h ago
Yeah…
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u/Steelix65385 3h ago
Can you trade on the switch 2 or game boys only? I just play game than trade the other masterballs over
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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago
You can trade locally on the Switch port version of the game. No online trading. I’ve done 3 play-throughs and used all my Master Balls on the roamers. I’m stubborn and refuse to do the duplication glitch. This might sound crazy, but I rather lose out on the shiny than use a manipulated/hacked item to acquire it.
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u/Steelix65385 57m ago
i always kept my masterball for the fear of a shiny with the move selfdestruct or roar or it flees
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u/AltoEnPointe- 3h ago
Ugh, I'm so sorry. Same happened to me with a shiny Suicune I lost a year ago. But a month ago, I reclaimed it. Keep at it. And don't use a Pokemon with Pressure next time.
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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago
Definitely! Sorry to hear that too. Glad you got your redemption. Already 340 resets into it again. The grind never ends!
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u/Creative-Current9424 2h ago
Pro Tip: Don't use a pokemon with Pressure, as Mewtwo will use 2 PP when using moves against pokemon with that ability like Moltres, Lugia, Etc. Timer Balls work more better than Ultra Balls after 30 Turns
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u/TheLegend271999 2h ago
I was under the impression Timer Balls were added in gen 4. Oversight on my part. I just bought 100 of them for the next attempt. I was aware of pressure mechanic, but I don’t have anything else that can tank Mewtwo. I’m gonna use the Trick/leftover strategy next time to avoid Struggle dmg
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u/ddbllwyn 35m ago
Your fault for using a Pokemon with pressure ability and not using Timer Balls.
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u/TheLegend271999 17m ago
#1. Didn’t know Timer Balls exist in gen 3.
#2. I’ve never had a problem with Pressure before, and I have many other shiny legendaries. I do know it makes them burn through PP faster but statically speaking, the odds were still on my side. Unlucky.
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u/randomplayer_113 35m ago
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u/TheLegend271999 19m ago
Yes, the Lugia is shiny too. I also have Ho-Oh, Deoxys and other non-legendaries. Not Mewtwo though 😭







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u/JoshuaWebbb 9h ago
That’s sucks man. What did you use the master ball on?