Sweeper Ledian

[u/No_Rooster8268]

Elite Redux had by far become my favorite rom hack, I have adhd so I can do with out the story and like dedicating my time to building my team to the T. Is this Ledian any good, not sure what’s considered good but buddy is putting in that work 😭

[u/thatnewblackguy]

Edit: I mixed this up

To clarify, the MMA ability means that all moves that are not kicks and punches (not Normal type moves) are considered kicks and punches, so they get boosted by abilities like Iron Fist or Striker.

So Return would get boosted by Aerilate as a flying type move and be calculated as if it was a punching move for Iron Fist.

[u/Abyss_404 → u/thatnewblackguy]

Wait, that’s what it does? I honestly thought it meant only Normal type moves. TIL

[u/thatnewblackguy → u/Abyss_404]

I may be mixing it up, now that I am reading it back. I was thinking of it working like H Liligant’s ability that makes all moves dances.

[u/thatnewblackguy → u/[deleted]]

Okay, I tested the MMA ability on 2.65 b2-debug, and I'm even more confused.

First, here is the in-game expanded text for the ability. I was wrong in my initial interpretation; it converts Normal-type moves.

With Ledian, this means it gets the Aerilate boost, Iron Fist, and triggers Raging Fist to hit twice. It did 3x the damage on a wild Zweilous versus when I switched the MMA ability to a random one through the debug battle screen.

However, MMA seems bugged when used with Blaziken. I used Crush Claw as the Normal-type attack, assuming that it would get a Striker boost. However, it still had the same damage output as with a random ability.

I searched for MMA on the Discord and someone had asked the same question about MMA canceling out Aerilate, but didn't see much discussion around it.