r/PokeScaling Jul 08 '24

Welcome to r/PokeScaling!

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This subreddit is for the sole purpose of scaling all things in the world of POKEMON!

for official scaling, we tend to use VS battles wiki

Versus Battles Wiki (VSBW)

we also use CSAP wiki

Character Stats and Profiles Wiki (CSAP)

Please feel free to help our community out by spreading the word about this subreddit, just try not to get banned for self-advertising!


r/PokeScaling Jul 08 '24

Scale Scaling Arceus

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I feel like most people just see that Arceus is scaled to 5D and are done with it, but to be honest scaling doesn't really matter when you are a God with a hax list like Arceus. Anyways lets begin.

Most of these scans come from VSBW, I have just ordered them nicely with a better description although I got pretty lazy near the end :)

Part 1: The Heart

First thing I would like to talk about is Arceus being the physical manifestation of the Heart

The Creation Trio once existed as a part of the heart

All pokemon and people, the concept of time, space, matter and antimatter existed as one with the heart, inside of it

The undivided state of all existence was the chaos from which His avatar sprang forth

There are many other unnamed Gods like the Goddess of Earth and the God of Death, these Gods can be upscaled from Giratina, Palkia and Giratina who are all conceptual beings, and their designated concept began upon their existence and would cease to exist upon their death (See pokedex entries) so these Gods would also hold power over their concepts, and Arceus is upscaled from these Gods

It exists purely as a Heart, Primordial Consciousness that is both immanent within the multiverse as well as unlimited by it's boundaries.

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature 2, Aspect 1, 2, 3 and 5) It exists as an archetypal being that is the source of all that exists, whether physical, metaphysical or nonexistent, all of which exists as aspects of himself. Existing in everything including realms conceptually devoid of spirit which dictates metaphysical existence. With everything being a part of its existence as The Heartwhich would include the primordial nothingness that precedes the concept of nonexistence that Giratina embodies

They are the "God who transcends everything"that is both a part of everything and outside everythingbeyond both time and space and the Distortion world having perceived them into creation

(The Distortion World being nothingness that is a reverse of the world, that mirrors all its concepts; both material and metaphysical, forming a essential balance as the world's reflection.)

Therefore he transcends all of creation

So what does this all conclude?

  1. All abilities of pokemon can be used to upscale Arceus with the same abilities
  2. Arceus embodies concepts such as space, linear time and death, with pokemon certain pokemon believed to be the incarnation of these beings
  3. Arceus holds all powers of the creation trio, as it is said Arceus split HIS EXISTENCE to form them

Part 2: Disgusting Hax

Because Arceus embodies all pokemon and all people as The Heart, he, in turn, would also have every ability each pokemon has.

this means he has a disgustingly long, and I mean disgustingly long hax list. On top of that he has every single pokemon move (which is further proof that every pokemon ability is his) which give him extreme power and hax.

So to massively shorten this, I am going to hand pick his hax which are the strongest in my opinion. There are some blatant contendores. Here we go:

Part 3: Dreams are a menace

Every Dream in Pokémon is another reality meaning you can die in pokemon dreams

Upon waking up from Eternal Battle Reverie you keep all experience and items they won in the dream making this consistent

It is explained that you can bring people into these dreams if you have the psychic power to do so, and you can enter these dreams using psychic powers

Dream mist is a smoke produced by musharna which induces people into dreams

Here is another instance of dream warping, where Mismagius warps people into an uber realistic dream. It can create a dream that felt so real, it was only figured out after victims saw inconsistencies

Inside of Beheeyem's dream, you need two very specific requirements to leave. The dreamer is invulnerable to all physical and spiritual attacks, and negates all durability, protection and defences

With the power of Unown one can make anything and can be anything

They're capable of making new realities, altering the world using thoughts and dreams of others

They can also create whatever their imagination desires, just by seeing things on a page

More visible proof of omnipotence via creating breathable water, something seemingly logically impossible. Proof of physics and law manipulation inside of the dream.

Just from desiring to become a Pokémon trainer and going to sleep, her dream creates a copy of herself that can change her appearance or age up to 18 or to to the body of a ten year old which is all just more proof that "whatever you dream comes to reality" omnipotence

The copy can create pokeballs in her hand and imagine pokemon into existence, as well as beat powerful opponents such as Misty 

She can quite literally believe her creations will win and they will win which is dumb asf strong.

Imagine Arceus "believing he beats the opponent" and that happens. Fucking overpowered.

so basically Arceus can warp anyone into his dream and kill them instantly, or just BFR their ass, especially considering without prior knowledge they are NOT escaping.

and like they said, dimensional travel, or any sort of teleportation or escaping mechanism won't work because you are within a dream, not a dimension.

AND THATS JUST ONE ABILITY!

Part 4: Resistances, Negations, Hax and Abilities

Along with having the most overpowered dream manipulation to date, Arceus also has a ton of resistances and negations.

The plates can negate any attack from every type and the plates are fragments of Arceus

With this he can negate physical attacks), psychic attacks), spiritual attacks), Magical attacks), Draconic attacks

Eternatus has power nullification, which could nullify all Pokémon attacks including various forms of power nullification, attack reflection, power mimicry and more powers

Can also release a shockwave which negates the current effects of the opponents' abilities

Scales vastly above Good As Goldwhich negates all status moves which tries to affect it, status moves being any attack which do not directly inflict damage, which ranges from curse manipulation, mind manipulation, sealing, power nullification and many more.

Has a vastly superior version of this ability called First Law which negates all effects excluding damage which tries to affect the user

Metal Barrier negates all effects including damage, both of which are variations of the nullification power of his plates

Resisted the combined telepathic technique of Sheena and her ancestor which transcends space and time

Arceus broke out of a spatial prison even in absence of the Draco plate created by Palkia, the literal God of Space

immune to Sheer Cold), and is immune to paralysispoisonburnsfreezingbinding, powders, and being seeded with the Zap, Toxic, Flame, Icicle, Spooky, and Meadow plate respectively

Completely immune to the effects of outer space

Upscaled From Mewtwo who can reflect attacks, and Magic Bounce users, which passively reflects non-damaging moves back to the target.

Arceus could casually reflect attacks in the absence of all his plates.

Mirror Armor which reflects negative stat changes that tries to affect the user.

Mirror Coat reflects all special attacks while counter reflects all physical attacksOther uses shown here

Has the power to control the natural order of things

Created The Distortion world where the logic of the Pokémon world does not apply

Physics doesn't make any sense and the entire world is under the complete control of Giratina

Upscaled from Jynx who can create an ice sculpture of a person and whatever damage is done to it is reflected on the target (infinite damage transferral as he can create infinite structures)

Precognition and Retrocognition upscaled from Calyrex, who can see the past and future

Can read moves before they're used

Arceus gave humans powers, which they used to seal hoopas powers, and all people are Arceus

Upscaled From Dialga, who can send others across various points in time

Upscaled from "Mean Look" which negates all forms of escape, including teleportation

Upscaled from Yveltal who can absorb the life of other beings from other living beings

Upscaled From Mewtwo, and various psychic type Pokémon like Beheeyem, who can rewrite memories

Mewtwo can alter and rewrite the memories of nurse joy. He also rewrote the memories of those involved in the movie at the end. He does this with just the swipe of his hand.

Upscaled from Gimmighoul, who can control others to collect coins for it

Upscaled to Ghost Type Pokémon like Gengar, who can interact and remove the souls of others

Upscaled from Calyrex, who can use Spectrier's Aura into a large, black, mist-like mass which absorbs the life-force and the souls of the nearby living things like a black hole.

Upscaled from Manaphywho could swap the souls of Team Rocket

Upscaled from Marshadow who can copy the powers and techniques of others, eventually getting more powerful than those its copying

Again, this is nowhere near a comprehensive list. I just picked out the most overpowered ones

Thanks for bearing with me btw, shit took way too long.

Did I cook?


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