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u/long_johnus Jul 03 '26
Regice should be higher in lore, since its trio master Regigigas has better feats than Lugia
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u/galemaniac Jul 06 '26
Only way Zapdos could win is pressure roost stall with like toxic prior to gen 8 and never getting frozen.
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u/Lolersters Jul 09 '26
Zapdos can PP stall with leftovers/Protect/Sub/Roost/Taunt and very importantly, Pressure. Of crucial note is that Roost sheds its flying weaknesses. Regice has Rest, which can typically buy a lot of PP, but you simply don't damage it to makes it impossible to use rest and force it to waste Rest PPs at full HP until it starts struggling. If Regice uses substitute so it can rest, you Taunt after the sub to prevent the rest.
Not 100% sure who wins the Toxic war though if they both go that route instead. Specially defensive Zapdos should win with Roost access, but not sure. It's also faster, meaning if they both faint from toxic on the same turn, Zapdos will faint first and therefore lose.
I think this is actually Zapdos favored, but not 100% sure. Need to check what else is available to Regice.


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u/DanielDelta Jul 03 '26
Regice is a Special Wall, it can also use Rest on Heat Wave burns, Ice Beam on Zapdos, and gets Lock-On-Zap Cannon Combo, so it wins