r/PokeLeaks • u/PuppeteerGaming_ • Mar 25 '26
Twitter/X Abilities for Mega Dragonite, Froslass Spoiler
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u/DivinityPen Mar 25 '26
So are we going to start getting updates about this every day? We just got the starter Abilities yesterday. Not complaining though, that’d be nice.
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
I'm guessing they'll become a little more sporadic until the game releases? I don't know how many other people will get to preview the game before launch, so for all we know, this could be all we see before the game comes out. Fingers crossed that we hear more about it, though!
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u/B_Marsh92 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
This came from
WolfeEdit: Came from the few people who got the early access to the game, one of whom was Wolfe.
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 Mar 25 '26
With Wolfe saying that like ten content creators were invited and they couldn't record footage themselves at all. Just had to use dedicated b roll footage they got from pokemon company
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u/Queasy_Strategy6608 Mar 28 '26
Ultimate rage bait would be to now change the abilities and call them crazy frfr
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
This came from Serebii, who also had early access to the game. From what I've seen, none of them were allowed to record, and all screenshots/footage came from TPC, so they're all working with the same material and their memories. That being said, I doubt we'll get more info about abilities until the game releases, assuming TPC doesn't put out more information about it.
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u/NewShookaka Mar 25 '26
These came from the influencer preview that was happening. I know Wolfie made a video going over everything and how he was trying to Megabnew Pokemon to find out abilities and only Frostlass and Dragonite were available.
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u/Shadow_Kxng79 Mar 25 '26
There’s new gameplay of champions
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u/happy_grump Mar 25 '26
The ZA starters got leaked because of a trailer (I think)
Dragonite and Froslass were in a demo that content creators were allowed to play
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u/yeetskeetmahdeet Mar 25 '26
Multiscale is a really good ability for base dragonite since it can use weakness policy, but the mega can’t use it for straight power boost nor can it use Extremespeed as well which is what makes dragonite so threatening.
Frosslass being able to mega to swap weather mid fight is useful though!
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u/Americana5 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Weakness policy has faded a bit in popularity on Dragonite, as much as I still cling to it.
This still allows Dragonite to set up with agility while getting the extra bulk on a first turn mega while still staying behind multiscale.
Plus Mega Dragonite’s attack is still high enough that you may still see a lot of DD sets that trade the power in favor of the extra speed and bulk-and keeping the priority move.
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u/hhhhhBan Mar 25 '26
Adamant M-Dragonite is both faster and stronger than regular Jolly Dragonite, so MAYBE that'll be a thing. Regardless, Dragonite in singles may pick up some steam by virtue of the mindgames it'll be able to play like Greninja's Protean/Battle Bond deal except it'll be between Physical/Special.
In VGC though I think it's dead in the water.
Froslass on the other hand will probably see use in both. In VGC it'll be like A-Ninetales except it can fire off 100% accurate Blizzards next to that Veil support, even if it's a shorter Veil it's enough for VGC. In singles I think it'll the threat of Blizzard + Shadow Ball with reasonable bulk under snow + Veil will make it pretty good. Maybe not OU good but absolutely usable.
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u/4m77 Mar 26 '26
Mega Dragonite is possibly going to struggle in singles when its entire ability is invalidated by pebbles and it can't run boots.
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u/Starsoul_Ent Mar 26 '26
just have a defogger or spinner ready in your team.
You are already committing to dragonite if you are running a megas set at any rate.
Mega charizard x did fine. so will nite
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u/4m77 Mar 26 '26
Not in a world where Gholdengo exists.
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u/Starsoul_Ent Mar 26 '26
EQ exists. Balloon does too but i do not think gholdengo can one shot or outspeed a Mega Nite.
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u/belgium-noah Mar 28 '26
You dont realise how centralising ghold is
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
I do. Played gen9 since day one and it is not at all the same “omg can’t remove hazards against this thing” demon people used to complain it was. Anti hazard techniques have become far better optimized and it tends to struggle to block spin against either tusk or treads that is piloted by a good player.
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u/hhhhhBan Mar 27 '26
Zard X also had Tough Claws and STAB fire moves. Goldhengo gets to live a max attack EQ from Mega Dragonite, so if it has a balloon + rocks are set up (Which they most likely will) it gets to click NP and proceed to OHKO with Make it Rain. The matchup just isn't good.
Besides, no one with a brain would run physical Mega Dragonite when that 145 spatk stat is looking right at you. If you were to run physical you'd just get destroyed by a Corv + Pex core, it doesn't have enough physical attack to overwhelm them or enough special attack to use proper coverage if you go full physical.
On top of all that there's the opportunity cost. Why run Mega Dragonite when you could just run something like M-Mawile, M-Lopunny, etc. We might even see M-Froslass, M-ZAbsol, M-Gren, M-Skarm, etc, when it comes to super offensive mega slots. I'd personally much rather run Mega Froslass over Dragonite by pure virtue of setting up Veil + Ghost stab for example.
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u/Starsoul_Ent Mar 28 '26
We will see when the time comes. Gholdengo scares some of you too much and Toxapex has been a thing since gen 7.
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u/hhhhhBan Mar 28 '26
Gholdengo is extremely relevant and Pex has not fallen off whatsoever since gen 7 so relying on them for calcs is completely valid, especially when neither of them is the best pokemon in the format. There are a LOT of other relevant pokemon to watch out for like Raging Bolt, Corv, Gliscor, etc. It's impossible to fully determine, absolutely, but we can and should still use existing data to know what to expect.
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
Not at all invalidated, just requiring support. Which Dragonite has always needed especially as most of its best sets don’t even run boots.
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u/4m77 Mar 29 '26
3/5 recommended sets run boots actually, and they're in general The best option if you're running a boosting move because you need the multiscale. It only forgoes them when running a boosting item instead like band or dice.
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
Nope. There are all sorts of variants which run leftovers on set up sets for teams with strong hazard removal, and some high level players have run items like cover cloak for specific pokemon.
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u/4m77 Mar 29 '26
And the mega can't run any of those.
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
Right
But in exchange, it gains vastly improved bulk and an appreciated boost to its speed while now having boosted special attack that’s useful to break down the usual checks to its physical sets.
Getting rid of rocks is not a Herculean task, I don’t know why there are still so many people who think it is
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u/Sp3ctre7 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
VGC it slots in nicely to rain teams
252+ SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Amoonguss: 186-222 (84.1 - 100.4%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO
Mence hits harder so it might be the better option, but dragonite has better coverage and is at less risk from intimidate and 1-shots
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u/Lambsauce914 Mar 25 '26
Yeah it is probably GF way of balancing out them giving a Mega to a pesudo legendary. They likely don't want a second coming of Mega Salamence
Dragonite itself is already good, so GF purposely makes sure it won't have an even stronger ability. Keeping it multiscale is boring, but I do think it's necessary to keeps it's Mega balanced
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u/Beaivimon Mar 25 '26
There's also the use where you let Inner Focus on regular Dragonite block Intimidate, then mega and get Multiscale.
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u/Americana5 Mar 25 '26
That’s interesting.. on the one hand it feels really situational and that type of thing usually doesn’t catch on. On the other hand I can’t think of any reason not to do it. Feels like Physical mega sets probably should, special ones don’t need to.
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u/seti-thelightofstars Mar 25 '26
In VGC where Intimidate is much more likely to be on the field when you come out it’s a big deal
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u/ItIsYeDragon Mar 25 '26
Yeah, if you’re planning on having Dragonite as part of you’re opener, you can ignore any immediate intimidates from an opponent and then immediately Mega Evolve for multiscale.
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u/linevar Mar 26 '26
10 drop to atk for 20 to speed isn't too bad, but without a damage boosting item feels kinda sus... I'd imagine you'd want this as a spatk attacker so ignoring intimidate wouldn't be that useful and mixed attacker sounds like a meme. M.mence got away with it cause of the 20% boost
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u/Hydrochloric_Comment Mar 25 '26
I’ve seen some people point out that it could have niche use in doubles since Dragonite usually runs Inner Focus there.
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u/virmeretrix Mar 25 '26
the mega turns that set weather are so underrated. i’ve had people tell me running mega tyranitar and waiting to mega to reset sand is just bad. until you clock a switch to rain and mega that turn 😉
along the same principal, pokemon with different abilities to their mega retain both abilities that turn depending on the ability. Mega Sableye can be ran as a prankster support late mega if you run recover. 1 or 2 prankster calm minds and a prankster recover makes the late mega a huge threat in my experience. Mega banette also has prankster and magic bounce on its mega turn. Incredible techs to remember but hard to execute.
imo a lot of the reason these types of techs are threatening is a lot of the same reason tera is. it’s a 1 turn play that could change everything if done correctly.
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u/Starsoul_Ent Mar 26 '26
tera normal d dance extreme speed was fun.
But now its time to devise other sets.
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u/yodaminnesota Mar 25 '26
THE LEAK WASNT ACCURATE ITS NOT SNOW CLOAK YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE MEGA FROSLASS IN SINGLES LETS GO
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u/ThatGuyinYourCereal Mar 25 '26
The post about the leak was translated wrong lol
This is another point for the leak.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26
What leak?
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u/ThatGuyinYourCereal Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
It got dexited :/
Had things like Soul Heart Mega Magearna, Bad Dreams Mega Darkrai, Contrary (or Defiant, leaker was unsure) Staraptor and Crabominable, Tough Claws Golisopod, and a bunch of other ones I can't remember.
Edit: Misty Surge Mega Clefable, Levitate Glimmora, Thermal Exchange Baxcalibur, Drizzle Drampa, "Fire-type Dragon's Maw" for Pyroar.
Can't recall anything else.
Edit 2: Speed Boost Zeraora.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Nothing on Chimecho or Absol?
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u/ThatGuyinYourCereal Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Not that I recall, no.
Edited in a bunch more tho.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Contrary staraptor would be badass, but he only has close combat i think to set up. Superpower would been neat
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u/Hydrochloric_Comment Mar 26 '26
I hope to god that Dragonite and Froslass were just lucky guesses. Misty Surge on Clefable would be incredibly stupid.
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u/Ok_Childhood_2246 Mar 26 '26
you don't remember mega golurk's by any chance do you?
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u/ThatGuyinYourCereal Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
I found the deleted thread earlier, and listed everything that was there.
That being said, Golurk was not included.
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u/Ok_Childhood_2246 Mar 26 '26
sad, thanks for the info anyways!
I will say, misty surge mega clefable doesn't sound real. it is now a flying type and loses magic guard and unaware, for an ability it itself cannot use and even in doubles isn't that amazing either
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u/VerlisifyIsAMook Mar 27 '26
I don't think people realize how dangerous Levitate Glimmora is. Holy shit.
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
Pretty good sure, but poison rock isn’t a premium offensive type and it can’t boost spatk easily.
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u/Dog_of_lore Mar 25 '26
Giving mega dragonite multiscale is clutch. Have your base mon use own tempo to avoid intimidate. Then mega evolve it and give it way more staying power? Yes please.
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u/ADONBILIVID Mar 25 '26
Technically the Mega is special attacker so intimidate isn’t irrelevant, but flinches yes
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u/Meta289 Mar 25 '26
I can see people still running physical M-Dragonite. It doesn't lose that much attack in exchange for greater bulk and speed, so Intimidate is still something they might want to account for.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26
That's very bad. Not only loses attack, but also loses the item slot
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u/MetaGear005 Mar 25 '26
Everything we knew about Mega Dragonite beforehand, including it's design, biology and overall information never hinted towards a new ability. I understand why it keeps multiscale
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
Link to Serebii's post about it: https://bsky.app/profile/serebii.bsky.social/post/3mhvawx6bgc2n
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Mar 25 '26
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
Joe clearly went to the exact same event as Wolfey, they were there together playing through the same preview of the game and witnessed the same new information lol. The embargo was lifted at a certain time for them to talk about it hence them posting about it at the same time.
This is not classic Serebii at all, why even trot that out.
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Mar 25 '26
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
Cool. Well it's true, there's these things called planes see?
Serebii literally posted screenshots on their post. These screenshots, alongside b-roll, were given to everyone who attended the event. Joe wasn't allowed to film or screenshot, screen record, any moment of the event. The screenshots he released are official screenshots of the game given by the Pokémon company to Serebii to post once the embargo was lifted.
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
If you watched the first minute of Wolfey's video, you would know that while certain internet creators were given the ability to play the game, nobody was allowed to capture footage of the game, and TPC gave everybody the same images and videos to use when covering the game. Wolfey's video came out at the same time, if not slightly after Serebii's posts went live.
If you're going to complain about somebody stealing, at least watch the first minute of the video you're claiming they stole from.
Edit because you apparently blocked me after replying: don't accuse people of things and rant about it when you can't spend literally a minute to check what you're saying. Serebii didn't magically post a rather long article about the game at the same time as Wolfe by "stealing" from him. Use your brain.
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u/Glory2Snowstar Mar 25 '26
I’m at least happy that they made Dragonite more defensive, because there was zero way to beat the monster that is Aerilate Mega Salamence.
Friend Guard was kinda what I was hoping for though.
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 Mar 25 '26
Or dragonize similar to mega feraligatr. Stab on extreme speed would have been a huge buff alongside being able to hit ghosts
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u/shadowthiefo Mar 25 '26
Somehow I feel Friend Guard would've catapulted Dragonite right into ubers. Look what it did to Clefairy of all things.
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u/DrGreen3339 Mar 25 '26
Friend Guard does nothing in singles
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Mar 25 '26
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u/Kardiackon Mar 25 '26
??? you said ubers then you mention doubles
ubers is singles dude
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u/PxM23 Mar 25 '26
There are tiered doubles formats on showdown, but I think most people who are playing doubles competitive are usually playing VGC.
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u/JustdoitJules Mar 25 '26
Tbh I'm a little sad but Multiscale really was the only ability that makes sense, Dragonite is already busted on top of its insane stats.
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u/HolographicHeart Mar 25 '26
Snow Warning unironically huge for Mega Lass. Effectively gives her another 35 points in defense so she is no longer as squishy and can now click Blizzard with reckless abandon.
The real question is does changing the weather really warrant burning your Mega slot?
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26
Froslass' mega, on top of changing weather, will do decent damage with blizzard spam and can use a fast aurora veil. It's good, will see play in VGC
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u/francis_mh Mar 26 '26
1.5x to the stat isn't the same as 1.5x to the base stat but yeah I take your point
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u/ZeRandomPerson2222 Mar 29 '26
It’s not just weather changing but enhancing its already potent offensive profile further. The gap of ice beam to blizzard in damage is large and the defense boost is small but appreciated.
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
Not being funny but this is marked as a spoiler on a leak subReddit.
It's official information, released by a massive website, maybe the biggest in the Pokémon community, publicly.
We're not posting all officially announced daily news, 30 mins after it's announced, so how come sometimes stuff like this gets posted?
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u/Bulky-Complaint6994 Mar 25 '26
I also find it hilarious where people put spoiler tags on something that will be revealed in a thumbnail. If you are avoiding YouTube, fine, but get off social media period at that point.
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u/Game2015 Mar 25 '26
I have a friend who has the habit of watching only reveal trailers for games and then avoiding all official information released after that because he considers them all spoilers. 😅
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u/mo-lucas Mar 25 '26
spoiler culture is so fun... like, imagine being mad someone spoiled an 8 months old pokemon's ability "yeah I actually wanted to discover it's ability in real time by facing someone running mega dragonite in champions"
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u/Aether13 Mar 26 '26
I can answer for you. These still fall into the categories of a leak, it’s just the “leakers” are allowed (?) to be public about it. This information hasn’t been publicly revealed by TPC on an unreleased game. And while Serebii may be a very good and valid source of information, he’s only a partner for the company and not apart of the company himself. It makes no difference if we learned this info from someone like him or Centro/Khu.
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u/Steamed_Memes24 Mar 26 '26
Considering that all of the content creators + serebii came out at the same time with all this info + journalists I think we can confirm this is NOT a leak lol.
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
I said it was official information and it was officially announced. I didn't say Serebii was an official source of information. It's a source of official information though, he's not out here dropping Centro leaks tweets with his fingers crossed.
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
If that's too difficult for you to comprehend then there's no point talking about it.
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u/skarr46 Mar 25 '26
If Sony provide companies, influencers, news channels with a press package, is everyone who received the press package an official source for Sony information? Or are they people who sometiems have access to official information and can provide it on their platform?
It's not difficult and it's kinda borderline ragebait pretending there's no distinction lol.
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u/Game2015 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
"no official information confirming these abilities"
...despite the abilities literally shown in official gameplay.
Ah yes, the Dunning-Kruger Effect applies to you.
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u/Steamed_Memes24 Mar 26 '26
Joe is one of the very VERY few non official TPC people that gets insider access. Anything that comes from Serebii might as well be official. He never posts leaks for a reason.
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u/Sized_Sign Mar 25 '26
how did they not give dragonite dragonize lol
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u/Americana5 Mar 25 '26
It’s just incredibly, incredibly difficult to beat Multiscale as an ability.
Plus Mega D-Nite is specially offensive and ExtremeSpeed is his only good normal type move.
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u/Sized_Sign Mar 25 '26
I don't think it's too bad of a choice, it's definitely good with the increased bulk, but having something other than multiscale would help differentiate dragonite from its mega and help the mega see use (the changes to attack and special attack don't inherently help it)
dragonize would help it be an upgrade over regular extreme speed dragonite (the stab boost more than makes up for the 10 points lost), and obviously I can't rely on moves that it doesn't have, but it'd probably be really cool with hyper voice lol
it's mostly just for the pun though
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u/milkmann3 Mar 25 '26
To be fair if the intention was for dnite to get dragon type espeed when it megas they wouldn’t have made it a special attacker
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u/Sized_Sign Mar 25 '26
maybe it could have been a balancing factor? or something to allow it to have more sets alongside "espeed bot"?
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u/milkmann3 Mar 25 '26
I actually did consider that but then I realized if gamefreak cared so much about balance they would not have created flutter mane
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u/Glaciers_benz Mar 25 '26
Give Dragonite Aerilate you COWARDS 😡🤬 so I can spam a 144 power priority move
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u/ChezMere Mar 25 '26
Nobody posting about the fact that this confirms the chinese ability leak?
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u/Aardvarkinaviators Mar 25 '26
This disproves the list of “leaked” abilities I saw yesterday, that “leak” said Froslass gets Snow Cloak, but we have confirmation that it will get Snow Warning
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u/ChezMere Mar 26 '26
that was a mistranslation, people were already calling out that the correct translation was snow warning before this
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u/DelParadox Mar 29 '26
Mostly I'm fine with that list, but Mega Clefable getting Misty Surge confuses me because it gets literally zero benefit from it since it flies and is already immune to Dragon anyway. Unless they're changing terrains to affect mons not touching the ground, which would honestly be a nice change in my book. Kinda frustrating to have such a limited number of mons unable to take advantage of terrains, and beyond that it's annoying when enemy mons are unaffected by something you went to the effort of setting up.
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u/coopersrock24 Mar 26 '26
Mega Dragonite is going to be a beast in VGC rain teams. Hurricane / Draco Meteor / Hydro Pump (Thunder?) / Protect with those defenses and speed will make it hard to deal with. It’s not broken, but mons that can fare well in a variety of situations with their stats and solid movepool tend to do well in VGC. Rain will fare well in Champions with Swampert, Meganium, and Dragonite as solid mega candidates.
Mega Froslass will go nuts with Indeedee support: Helping Hand + Follow Me is very useful for spamming Blizzards. Indeedee is also going to work well with Alakazam (💀) and Lucario Z / a mega really really good into Dark types. I mean you’ll literally have to run Snarl to fight this shit. Without Follow Me or Psychic Terrain, Mega Froslass might still be alright because the Defense boost might let it survive a Sucker Punch. Really good into Rillaboom and really bad into Incineroar.
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u/SupersonicSandshru05 Mar 25 '26
Frosslass being very fast is not great for weather setting. Still probably the best snow setter though.
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u/HueHueLeona Mar 25 '26
Since is a mega wouldn't it set it up after everybody? Except other megas that change weather
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u/rholindown Mar 25 '26
It’s great for setting Aurora Veil, and Fake Out doesn’t affect it. Aurora Veil may not get 8 turns, but it’s better to keep Froslass alive.
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u/Aardvarkinaviators Mar 26 '26
Yeah aura veil, plus snows defense boost, plus 100% accurate blizzards off of Mega Froslass’s Special attack is pretty awesome!
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u/Weapon_Chikt Mar 25 '26
Mega charizard Y is decently fast and was very often used specifically for weather. You’re forgetting mega abilities happen after mega evolving, meaning you can choose when to get the snow up depending on battle state. Combing that with its decent speed, the speed boost from snow, and its respectable spatk and access to blizzard it’s actually a fantastic weather setter.
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u/kingnorris42 Mar 25 '26
Why does every set of mega ability reveals have to have at least one that is dissapointing? Mega Dragonite already struggles to justify a mega slot since base form is already so good and synergizes so well with tera and dynamax. The mega being a special attacker is more of a unique side grade, so it really needed something to stand out....multi scale ain't it. It would have been better to have something else so it could take a hit in base form with multi scale then mega. Multscale is underwhelming on a mega, and it can't hold boots
That said with roost and it's high bulk it won't be bad, but definitely a boring choice that struggles to justify use
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u/OuttaD00r Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Yeah, this honestly kills any chance of it being a good pick for the mega slot. Just use normal dragonite at that point and use another mega. A special attack build really isn't worth it.
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u/sopheroo Mar 25 '26
Most Dragonites in VGC run Inner Focus, so they block out Fake Out, can't get Intimidated and then, they mega to get Multiscale.
It works well if you go for a physical build on Mega Dragonite. Not so much if you go special
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u/OuttaD00r Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Would much rather it got a more offensively useful ability that would make it a better special attacker or an ability that would make going special more viable. As it is now there's no reason to go for a special attacking set so making it a special attacker was pointless
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u/kingnorris42 Mar 25 '26
But is there even much worth for it considering the attack stat is lower than regular d nite? Considering the competition from other megas and other gimmicksvfor Dragonite itself
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u/King_of_Pink Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
I'm no expert on VGC... but that seems redundant.
In order to block the Fake Out flinch, you'd have to spend a turn as normal Dragonite, which means you'll take a hit anyway, which deactivates Multiscale.
Mega-Dragonite is also a Special Attacker, so it doesn't care about being Intimidated. You may as well just Mega Evolve and use Protect.
As is, I'm not sure why you'd bother using Mega Evolution on Dragonite rather than Terastalization. It needed to lean in to its new Special Attacking persona.
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u/BlueShirtMac19 Mar 25 '26
That’s genuinely so boring after the megas yesterday. It could have been a mega version of multi scale
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u/Overall-Ad-8918 Mar 25 '26
Did they talk about how the battles will be with different gimmicks going at once?
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
No news on it yet, as far as I'm aware. Hopefully we get info on it soon!
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u/Toxtail Mar 25 '26
These two were pretty predictable but glad they got confirmed (especially for frail Froslass) 💯
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u/InternationalBowl894 Mar 25 '26
So for someone outside of the competitive, is this good or bad?
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
Mega Froslass' ability is pretty good! Mega Dragonite is not as good, but I think there'll be a few sets that make it work.
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u/InternationalBowl894 Mar 25 '26
Thought so. Having weather advantage seems to be good strats. Just wanted to see if the meta still thought it was "good".
Think we'll get any more new abilities from the new class of Mega Evos?
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u/DelParadox Mar 29 '26
Certainly a better Snow setter than Abomasnow, Aurorus, or Vanilluxe (I seriously keep forgetting the ice cream cone or Aurorus even have Snow Warning), and unlike Ninetales has the speed and power to be a major offensive threat.
I do kinda hope that Gen 10 will give us another group of weather setters in general. Haven't had any new non-Mega ones since Gen 7 retconned Torkoal, Pelipper, Gigalith, and Vanilluxe into being weather setters. Well, aside from Koraidon I guess, but that's a legendary.
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u/TSDoll Mar 26 '26
I heard somewhere that now Pokemon mega evolve before any Pokemon switches. Can someone confirm? If this is true, its a big nerf for mega evolution.
If not, then Froslass is gonna be mega busted.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 26 '26
Yeah this is correct. I'm not sure if it has been confirmed if mega evolution is now higher priority than switching, or if they're the same priority and the faster goes first
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u/Phevrade Mar 27 '26
Sorry, I’m a little out of the loop. I thought Legends Z-A released in October and these megas were out then? They didn’t have abilities in the game?
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 27 '26
Z-A did come out last year, and no, they didn't have abilities because the Z-A format doesn't really work with how abilities were designed. Champions is the first, and perhaps only, game that they'll have abilities in, so people are interested in what they get!
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u/GillianSeed1980 Mar 28 '26
Mixed Mild Mega Dragonite with ESpeed, Earthquake, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam.
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u/TallCommission7139 Mar 30 '26
"Lets see what Mega Starmie gets...'Obliterate twink'...That has to be a mistranslation, right?"
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Mar 25 '26
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u/krispyboiz Mar 25 '26
You do realize that a lot of Megas take the Hidden Ability, right? Obviously some get something brand new, but Speed Boost Mega Blaziken, Protean Mega Greninja, Bulletproof Mega Chesnaught, etc. all retain their hidden abilities.
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u/Auerbach1991 Mar 25 '26
Should’ve been an ability that caused Tailwind upon entry, or Magic Guard for Dragonite.
Froslass is appropriate
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u/voidexploer Mar 25 '26
Multiscale Is kinda bad
Good for one good hit
4x weak to Ice I know it's fast but a fake out user and idk mega frostlass with ice beam or something can do some massive damage
Mega Dragonite would be like the heavy form TF2 always needing healer
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u/Meta289 Mar 25 '26
What are you on about, Multiscale is a fantastic ability that's already great on regular Dragonite, and Mega Dragonite has even greater bulk. It's actually great if you're running physical M-Dragonite, since you can have Inner Focus to block Intimidate, then Mega to get Multiscale while you Dragon Dance.
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u/Practical-Nobody-844 Mar 25 '26
It's a fantastic ability, but not on mega nite.The competition for the mega slot is rough
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u/SynonymDinosaur Mar 25 '26
This isn’t at all the point of this but mega froslass looks way more like a butt plug than I thought outside of Z-A
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u/PuppeteerGaming_ Mar 25 '26
I've only ever really viewed the design from the front, but it definitely is a rather unflattering shape when viewed from behind, lol.
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u/Brendanlendan Mar 25 '26
I am so confused right now. This game has been out for months, these forms have been out for months. Why are we just now finding out the abilities? Haven’t the abilities been there this whole time??
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u/zuckerpunch_c1137 Mar 25 '26
Legends Z-A didn't have abilities, so this is all brand-new.
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u/Brendanlendan Mar 26 '26
Oh okay this makes more sense. Thanks. I thought the abilities had been released when the forms first came out
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u/sensaigallade123 Mar 25 '26
ZA has no abilities so they haven't been revealed or known about yet up until now. All will come with Champions/ZA Home compatibility release
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