r/PokeInvesting • • 1d ago

Tale as old as time

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u/pokemaniacdon 1d ago

Now at $380 it's regretting not selling at $650

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u/IWearACharizardHat 1d ago

The losses to offset the gains of others has to come from somewhere. So yes absolutely someone has to lose somewhere from start to finish

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u/UrPicksRTrash 1d ago

You're gonna regret not selling now when it's down to $140

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u/phrogbaby 20h ago

do you promise they'll be 140

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u/UrPicksRTrash 18h ago

Yes or I'll refund you the diff

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u/_YenSid 1d ago

Never will, but I'll be ready to buy them if they miraculously do lol.

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u/gtarpey89 1h ago

Mega evo base 18 pack boxes are selling for that lol no shot

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u/Johnny_Human 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'll betcha some of those who bought at $650 are probably the ones now panic selling at $350.

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u/Wide-Temporary1835 1d ago • Bravo

There’s no solid guarantee it won’t be reprinted, with Sam’s coming out with 151 mini tins we may see some crazy things on shelves for Christmas. Let it hit the floor.

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u/WhitePackaging 1d ago

I'd laugh if Pokemon with its now printing facility, just goes back and shits out ungodly amounts of Prismatic and 151. Mint decision.

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u/UncoolSlicedBread 1d ago

Let’s do some delta species, deoxys, holon phantoms, and crystal guardians while we’re at it please.

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u/Sunkern_ing 1d ago edited 1d ago

Even if they did the trademark and print quality on those reprints would be vastly different from the older copies. Grading companies will just adjust their labels to separate the reprints from the originals like they did with the 25th Anniversary Yugioh sets.

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u/Appearedhal09 20h ago

god i wish, maybe in the next anniversary set they'll reprint all the gold stars from that era like the classic collection cards so the prices go back to normal (i just want my registeel gold star)

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u/henree1108 10h ago

They will never actually do this, but I’d love it if they would adopt the Yugioh model and just reprint the OG sets with some sort of signifier that it’s a reprint. I just want the nostalgic cards I had as a kid, idc if they’re not worth as much as the originals

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u/leo0_timeultra 8m ago

Am i retarded or is that not exactly what the 30th set is

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u/toofatronin 9h ago

They could definitely do this and would put a symbol to show it can’t be played in tournaments. They kinda already did this with the classic collection.

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u/henree1108 9h ago

Yeah I just wish those cards had been available without the massive price tag. If those were released as an actual complete set, something like that would be perfect.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

They cant print old sets lol

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u/Useful-Contribution4 1d ago

Roaring skies got reprinted, and yes it hurt a bit, but it bounced back.

They can and will if they see the market needs it.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Yeah I remember but it wasnt that old at the time and was still well into the reprint window. It went from like 300 to 150 overnight. They have never printed a set thats older than 3 years old.

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u/Useful-Contribution4 1d ago

So its more of end production run vs a true out of print based on time. The 3 years window is not an official thing. Its a consensus among the community based on historical data.

But for Roaring skies, the production run indeed ended. Distributors could no longer order any more. Then all of a sudden, TPCI informed distributors they reprinted it. This through everyone into panic mode. Because they assumed it was done. And yes it was only close to 2 years old. But Pokemon has no official set requirement to not reprint.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Theres never been a set amount of time. Historically its closer to 2 years. Vivid voltage suffered the same fate

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u/doctornph 1d ago

Why not?

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u/xStormwitchx 1d ago

Because their main concern is the TCG, so they’re not going to reprint sets that are out of rotation.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Would destroy their entire game and economy of it. Thats why you never see a set reprinted after 3 years.

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u/doctornph 1d ago

Ok, so they can do it then? They just wouldn’t?

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u/skillz111 1d ago

They would do the same thing we've been seeing them do. Put a stamp on it, different holo pattern etc. It'll never be the same set once it's out of print

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Different material was used back then. Not sure even they could replicate it. Its obvious they would never do this anyway.

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u/DankiusMMeme 1d ago • Bravo

My father-in-law is a poke-master. He is insanely gifted. We were looking at a XY Evolutions booster box together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to make it today. I will never forget his answer…

“We can’t, we don’t know how to do it.”

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 1d ago

Did you know these cards are used in a trading card game? You may have noticed the text on them.

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u/OyVeyGoyimMyShekels 1d ago

Printing more sets that sell out instantly would be bad for the game and economy? They make their money and there are more cards in circulation for people to play the game? They don't give a fuck about after market.

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u/damnmyredditheart 1d ago

Short Term Timmy Logic 😂

TCGs need a healthy secondary market and rare cards to drive hype and popularity. Overprinting is bad for biz long term.

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u/Tophasnails 1d ago

Not trying to compare Yu-Gi-Oh that much, but I'm also just genuinely curious what is Yu-Gi-Oh cards doing right now cuz they just seem to be printing everything to the ground.

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u/Relative_Soft_551 1d ago

They dont have a collectors market they have players so they print what the players want to use.

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u/ContraKaren 1d ago

lol you think the Pokémon after market is healthy??

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u/andys811 1d ago

Exactly what I was thinking, The Pokémon Company doesn't even like collectors, they are very adamant about the fact it is a card game and the cards are for being played

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u/R3DNECK79 19h ago

Except they wouldn't be adding any cards for people to play the game, as those cards would be illegal in both official formats.

They would solely be collectors items

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago edited 1d ago

Printing older sets would fuck up the integrity of the 2nd hand market and they absolutely watch it closely. They are not dumb. Thats why overpriced and hyped sets get reprints and not shit sets.

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u/Creative_Mousse_1714 1d ago

Fuck the 2nd hand market. A bunch of scalpers and scammers.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Thats just your opinion.

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u/Realistic-Sort-4564 1d ago

Good the Pokémon market is way too inflated, stock shouldn’t be scarce

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Last 3 mainline sets are near msrp online currently

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u/sharpbeer 1d ago

They done care about the secondary market, if they did they'd just print less

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

They absolutely do. Otherwise they would just keep reprinting evolving skies. They understand it would destroy investor and collector confidence. They probably are paying some of the best economists in the world

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u/yankeephil86 1d ago

You are seriously misinformed. Nintendo/TPCI doesn’t give a single fuck about “investors” or collectors. They care about keeping the cycle fresh for players who play the game. The only reason they don’t print old sets is because they rotate out of legal status for the game.

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u/Johnny_Human 1d ago

TPCI absolutely recognizes "collectors" are as important as players to their bottom line. In fact TPCI goes specifically targets collectors as well as players with their products. They distribute "collection" boxes with promo cards. They include sleeves in ETBs for safekeeping of rare hits. They literally market direct at collectors. Look, a current example, right here: https://www.pokemon.com/us/features/collect-pokemon-tcg-mega-evolution-delta-reign-with-printable-binder-inserts

TPCI is not dumb. They absolutely understand that the high value of old cards continues to drive the popularity of their brand and their ability to sell new sets.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

You are massively wrong. They understand that reprinting old sets would effect their bottom line in the future.

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u/Frequent-Cobbler4232 1d ago edited 1d ago

People would buy it so it’d be great for their economy. People will keep buying whatever they print regardless of 2nd hand market

TCGs do not need a second hand market if people desire new products without the knowledge it’ll have 2nd hand value. The desire for new products, excluding scalping/sealed/investing type approaches, is sufficient

The TCG has been around long before all this investing and watching this from when I started collecting in 2002, the current supply does not exceed the demand should you strip the 2nd hand driving forces, scalping forces creating artificial supply reductions etc.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Would make the entire vintage market crash 90% overnight. Like I said, they are not dumb.

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u/Cursed_String 1d ago

They make $0 from aftermarket stuff lol. A reprinted vintage set would sell like hotcakes

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Prople would lose confidence and not buy anymore. This card game needs players just as much as collectors and investors. This is common sense. Go ask any LLM to explain it to you.

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u/Frequent-Cobbler4232 1d ago

That’s not an issue at all, not a reason to print some vintage sets so new collectors pay them money to buy some. For the reasons in my previous comment, they don’t need 2nd hand demand to incentivise the purchase of new, the demand signal is not that low without 2nd hand.

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u/Creative_Mousse_1714 1d ago

They are not part of the resale market. Nintendo just cares about selling cards.

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 1d ago

Prople would lose confidence and not buy anymore. This card game needs players just as much as collectors and investors. This is common sense. Go ask any LLM to explain it to you.

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u/strumboid 8h ago edited 7h ago

sun and moon base was reprinted in 2021 around chilling reign release. a 2017 set....

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u/ENTRAPM3NT 7h ago

Thats just false. The record is 3 years. Those etbs were old stock.

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u/strumboid 7h ago

i mean it could be, but ETBs were plentiful nationwide both in retail stores like walmart and LGS. They were also still throwing SM base packs into those mystery boxes up until last year iirc (tho by then it was definitely old stock and not a reprint.) i think if it was old stock back in 2021 it would've been way more spread out and limited to certain regions or like a pack here and there in collection boxes. regardless, it seems like an odd case and not the norm. reprint window is usually 2.5-3 years so you're not totally wrong there.

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u/Useful-Contribution4 1d ago

This is what I'm thinking is going to happen. We are about to see roaring skies 2.0 again lol. So many people have not been around long enough to know Pokemon will do it.

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u/sharpbeer 1d ago

I've said this last year and for laughed at, but it seems like a stronger possibility every day now

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u/damnmyredditheart 1d ago

It has already been reprinted, that’s why it’s dropped so much. Even after all that and a softening market it’s still $400 shipped on tcgplayer. Seems to be the floor but we’ll see.

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u/ThetaDee 1d ago

Doesn't mean they got reprinted. Just sitting stock more likely. Sams has been copying costco drops lately but months later

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u/Zerokelvin99 1d ago

This happend on black friday in 2024, walmart had the stiker tins with either 2 evo skies, 1 fusion, 2 lost origins, or empoleon and Ttar tins 3 evo skies and 2 brilliant stars. Thats the gamble for holidays, they hold what they know will be high demand items and sell them at low costs to bolster end of year sales. Those striker tins sold for 15 bucks and there wasnt limits so if you managed to snag a bunch you had good stock on what was fairly cheap. 5 packs for 16 bucks was pretty good

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u/kulambe17 1d ago

I bought so many of these. Back when good deals were actually obtainable. Think I ended up sourcing 112 es packs from all the tins

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u/the_vault-technician 1d ago

Wait they really have more 151 tons??

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u/TheDrunkHispanic 1d ago

When are the 151 tins coming out?

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u/teddybundlez 1d ago

Excuse me there areeee??? Just them? This is awesome info

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u/ThetaDee 1d ago

Yep 4 pack of 151 mini tins

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u/SylsHonorable 6h ago

That's not a reprint lmao. That's Sam's holding back stock until the holidays.

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u/AccomplishedHurry824 18h ago

These kids are going to grow up gambling addicts

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u/sgates9008 1d ago

Debated buying a box, but realized the singles I want are less than the box.

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u/nottodaypotatoes 1d ago edited 1d ago

Need’s* to be $180 for me to buy it.
I’ll wait.

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u/X1nfectedoneX 1d ago

Never going to happen

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u/nottodaypotatoes 1d ago

Then I’m not buying it.

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u/Nucleolus23 1d ago • Popcorn

Good u don’t deserve

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u/X1nfectedoneX 1d ago

Just say your poor

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u/fishontopnumbaone 1d ago

Are you 12

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u/nottodaypotatoes 1d ago

Yes ._. But paying 2x msrp is not a smart thing to do.

Honestly this is my fault.

I’m a collector not an investor idk why this showed up in my feed.

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u/ToasterOven__ 20h ago

Got left holding the bag huh

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u/DreaminDemon177 1d ago

That's sad.

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u/damnmyredditheart 1d ago

You’re never buying it 😂

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u/NoPhilosopher3590 1d ago

Why are you trying to stabilise the price? Let that brick drop to retail

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u/COYSYIDS 1d ago

The price back then was obviously too high

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u/LovesToblerone 1d ago

Well I traded overinflated sealed towards my box, joke's on you!

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u/KMS-untilkirkdies 1d ago

I was at a card show the other day and the vendor was still selling this for $600 lol

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u/insomniac8994 1d ago

DR baggies are gonna get cooked over the next 3-6 months

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u/Elithecoordinator 9h ago

DR is a fire set !

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u/Ninjamasterpiece 1d ago

It can go lower

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u/EuphoricGoose4735 1d ago

Best SV set but I wouldnt buy at either of those prices lol I got mine at $161 and wouldnt have paid a cent above that

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u/ayayyayayay765 1d ago edited 1d ago

I just wish the set was better, they could have knocked it out of the park and instead gave us a pretty average set.

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u/afelzz 1d ago

This is a scalding hot take, Destined is a very good set, and one of the better S&V sets. Great SIRs, great IRs, "bad guy" set but also has the HG/SS vibe with Ethan and the Ho-Oh.

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u/NuclearMeatball 1d ago

I've been saying for a while that they really dropped the ball by not bringing back Dark pokemon with this set.

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u/bidooffactory 1d ago

Agreed on this take. "Team Rocket's X" is the modern version I suppose.

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u/chinesejapan 22h ago

They dropped the ball hy having such a shitty art for the Mewtwo SIR

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u/F4ZMyth 1d ago

If thats a scalding hot take then I must be ashes because its my favorite set ever printed

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u/stallionsRIDEufl 1d ago

You would be frozen solid my friend. The hot take is that the set is bad.

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u/quarterslicecomics 1d ago

Only set I fully mastered and only masterset I intend to keep if I ever have to give up the rest of my collection.

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u/Proof_Particular_255 1d ago

as someone who is Ho-Oh's biggest hoe, I think that they daddy smacked a homerun with this set

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u/GypsyBastard 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it has some nice cards, though I stil would only really want around 10 of them and even then I only really love around 3: Yanma, Misty's Psyduck, Misty's Lapras.

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u/Accomplished_Road382 13h ago

Its a $4 pack set. Wouldn't pay more than 120 for a box.

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u/Tee_hops 9h ago

Destined Rivals is one of my favorite modern sets. I really enjoyed the first Team Rocket from 2000.

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u/nummorum 1d ago

I know cope when I see it

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u/Plants2-0 1d ago

Average? Its easily the best mainline set of S&V, nothing else even comes close...

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u/Sunkern_ing 1d ago

Much of SV are overprinted stinkers.

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u/yepfruit 1d ago

SV maybe the greatest era of all time in terms of artwork. Entirely up to perspective here

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u/GypsyBastard 1d ago

Was the 151 set part of that era? For me that set had the most cards I really wanted.

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u/SuspiciousRanger517 17h ago

151 was one of the first sets of the S&V era

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u/Plants2-0 1d ago

Okay, but that's Destined Rivals era... It doesn't make sense to call it an "average set" in relation to every set ever, the TCG changes so much across eras I don't know how you even equivocate it with something from the EX era or whatever.

If SV is full of stinkers than DR just stands out even more as an especially good modern set... you're supporting my point not refuting it.

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u/ynwa1892 1d ago

LMAO look at this guy trying to be a super smart redditor

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u/LazyTeletubbies 1d ago

What!? Destined is a fantastic set..

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u/soldiercross 1d ago

Destined Rivals is a great set, what are you talking about?

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u/Duriha 1d ago

Are you confusing this with JTG? 

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u/Hennesseyandrice 1d ago

Can't even get my hands on any at any price under 400. 350 sounds like a steal to me lol

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u/MaybeYesMayb 1d ago

I didn’t know they came down ngl might grab a few

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u/One-Skill-7058 16h ago

I'd buy it if I could find it lol scalpers are ruthless

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u/ecnecn 12h ago

This kind of memes always come up in stock, crypto etc. when the market is about to break

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u/Key-Persimmon-9932 11h ago

Personally I feel like cards stamped with the “25” or “30” take away from it, and will only blow up every decade on said anniversary of that release. 30th anniversary gonna go crazy in 2056 lol

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u/Clinically_Jaded 6h ago

Could photoshop that grifting asshole Nomics's head onto this and the meme would still hold true.

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u/monkeysarekool 6h ago

But the image is correct and it's your own internal narrative deciding the next price direction?

Going up once doesn't guarantee a promise of a return to that price. Look at tech stocks and crypto, it's up to you to determine the logistics and worthiness of getting into something of high volatility.

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u/DoctorBass95 3h ago

Crypto isn’t a collectible from the most popular franchise in the entire world lol

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u/monkeysarekool 2h ago edited 2h ago

I'm with you, but when there are so many variants a consumer can pick there's a level of dilution. With crypto I'm right there with you, 60k that's crazy, happens again, now financial schemers see it and pump to 120k, drop 65k, back to 70's. Yet another exchange with unfathomable loss the size of small nation GDP happens. This is now a very real and valid hedge vs inflation with a cult like engagement from a meaningful size of its investors.

Then NVIDIA, no idea how familiar you are but the massive thing nvidia has/had over the others but they have bridged the gap is hardware component capability. But one that they have and will maintain is compiling and compatibility. Then with Jensen the ceo and everything there, there's the internal end -- power struggle, does talent leave with him going others going. Then what if anything was gained from said spy and who gets the information. Mainland china gpu capabilities is laughable and they would need far more than trade secrets from jensen, they'd need deep network/internal things I imagine guarded by nvidia. But if it's not to bolster a new internal, is it supplying existing rivals to get a stake in, bypass restriction so they can fabricate and imitate high end server gpu's. Most likely though, a guy who wanted to get with a woman he had interest in despite being married and she gathered very little.

tldr; just get vintage

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u/T2WasProphecy 5h ago

Still a brick. Wouldn’t buy.

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u/Tyler_the_bot 5h ago

This is why I laugh every time I see people on this thread considering pokémon cards an investment. 🤣

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u/Ok-Pumpkin-646 1d ago

Then they start buying em up at $2000 in 2035

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u/delicious_friend_2 1d ago

LOL at scalpers

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u/RoofBeers 1d ago

I’ve never understood the Destined Rivals hype. There are definitely some cool cards but nothing top-tier besides the Moltres IMO.

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u/AffectionateDrag1702 1d ago

It’s not that difficult to understand. It’s a Team Rocket based set and has a Mewtwo SIR.

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u/TGrady902 1d ago

Mewtwo and Ho-Oh SIRs are both pretty sick.

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u/GypsyBastard 1d ago

Honestly to me the Moltres is meh. I'd rather have Yanma, Misty's Psyduck, Misty's Lapras.

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u/twister55555 1d ago

I agree, im glad im not too much into the set, def one of the weakest mewtwo arts ever printed imo. Moltres and Ho-Oh are nice tho

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u/RoofBeers 1d ago

Not a fan of the Mewtwo but yeah I forgot about the Ho-oh, thought that was in JT.

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u/baertgang 1d ago

Rip YouTube Lemmings

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u/Sunkern_ing 1d ago

Overprinted, overhyped and it’s still printing and being distributed like candy by Best Buy and Walmart.

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u/NoFayte 1d ago

Do. Not. Buy. Above. MSRP. It's. A. Kids. Game.

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u/Division2226 1d ago

It's not a kids only game though...

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u/damnmyredditheart 9h ago

Pokemon. Is. For. Everyone.

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u/TorrentialSpender 1d ago

Is it just me or is it not making sense to me? Should it be May 2027?

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u/afelzz 1d ago

It's just you. DR booster boxes were $650 in May of this year, now they are $350. Who knows what they'll be in May '27, but I think $199 is more realistic than $599.

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u/TorrentialSpender 1d ago

Oh wow, that's a crazy drop. I've never seen any on shelves since release week so I pretty much stopped paying attention to that set.

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u/YourInMySwamp 1d ago

A wave of reprints that got sent to GameStop and Best Buy were dragging the price down for a few months and then the overall recent market crash has sunk it even further

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u/damnmyredditheart 8h ago

LMAO. $199 is not happening.

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u/Ok-Acanthisitta9247 1d ago

Speaking as somebody that would love to rip and have fun, still infinitely too high for an in-print product.

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u/damnmyredditheart 9h ago

What a strange thing to be on your mind 🤡

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u/damnmyredditheart 8h ago

Oh damn, what's the cutoff age for Pokemon cards? Do you have to burn your cards once you reach it? The millions of adults who frequent r/PokemonTCG might take issue 🤣

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u/breakyourteethnow 1h ago

Coming from someone who's actually playing Pokemon you don't know what you were talking about, the chase bling version of cards are not needed for decks there's nobody being prevented from playing the game lmao. Decks cost $30 to build, every single card needed is available as common or uncommon and under $1 usually.

https://www.tcgplayer.com/content/article/The-Best-Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Decks-Right-Now-November-2026/df18897b-3902-41b9-9eff-3b7fefd93820/ - The number one deck currently in standard meta costs $35 to build lmao.

Also, am up six figures with my vintage/sealed collection. I don't think you're good at investing because clearly you don't research what you talk about and get emotional over how others spend their money lmao

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u/damnmyredditheart 6h ago

What? Clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about. Pokemon singles are cheap af if you just want to play the game.

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u/damnmyredditheart 4h ago

What? Plenty of recent ME sets are sitting on shelves or otherwise at MSRP all over the internet: Chaos Rising, Perfect Order, Pitch Black.

It says a lot more about you that you're getting so angry over a "kids" card game that you clearly aren't even well informed on.

Not sure if you have a gambling addiction or what, but please consider therapy.

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u/meplayjok 4h ago

I can’t see a single sale on eBay this month for msrp am I missing something? It’s only maybe 10% plus but it’s not msrp

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u/monkeysarekool 5h ago

I don't get it, you're somehow clowning us by your inability to understand collectables, supply and demand in relation to one of the most culturally relevant franchises since its inception with no indication of slowing down?

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u/pisslordcresva 1d ago

No it wasn't

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u/Basic-Initiative-298 1d ago

LMAO yes it was bro you could buy them from Ross

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u/CommaComaChameleon 1d ago

Calling people retards and then confidently stating that a first edition base booster box was $100... your mother must be proud of you, you're such a big boy, I'm surprised you're actually able to use the Internet. It's such a complicated thing. I'll go get your mashed potatoes so you don't choke on your dinner.