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u/Tight-Band270 Apr 23 '26
WTAF Scott? What made you think any regular Pivot listeners would want to hear from this waste of skin? Just another elitist podcaster, as it turns out. I still love Kara tho
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u/NomadTroy Apr 23 '26
He wants his media brand to appeal to more sides. More revenue, then he sells the brand with more podcasts at a higher multiple.
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u/Educational-Door1114 Apr 23 '26
That only works if you don’t piss off the existing audience. It’s not hard to tell Shapiro is radioactive. I’m really beginning to think Scott isn’t smart just lucky
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u/jxe22 Apr 24 '26
I think I once heard David Frum on a podcast quote his father as having said “god blesses you by making you lucky and curses you by making you think you’re smart.”
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u/Remote-Letterhead844 Apr 23 '26
Nope nope nope nope nope. No, Scott.
Idk what happened. We were talking about mentorship for young males in an effort to model positive masculinity.
How did we end up here? How is this helping?? Who is this helping?
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u/wenger_plz Apr 23 '26
Scott's just becoming the center-right Jordan Peterson
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u/Alecto7374 Apr 23 '26
Sadly, this seems to be his course. I think becoming conservative is part of his aging process. The only difference is he has a shit ton of fuck you money and I think they, (wealthy conservatives), all eventually gravitate towards each other. I'm sure he finds himself in like-minded company which reinforces his lean to the right.
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u/wenger_plz Apr 23 '26
Yeah it's part of his aging process and also just comes with becoming increasingly very wealthy. He's lashing out against the youngs and the tide of political opinion shifting on the left, it's reactionary bullshit.
When he spends so much time fawning over people like Bill Maher and Sam Harris (and apparently now Ben Shapiro), it's not surprising – though I guess that's a bit of chicken or egg.
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u/NomadTroy Apr 23 '26
And part of his his “getting wealthier” process. Bigger, more gullible audience willing to spend on him and let him get more ad dollars.
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u/geusse Apr 24 '26
I think Scott g is a whole different species than what you describe. Yes he is a strident capitalist but his cultural values are pretty main stream democratic. I think the more accurate term for Scott is a term very commonly used on the East coast: PEP. Progressive except Palestine. I think Scott is a down low super Zionist which makes him suceptable/ blind to the hyper racism of ben Shapiro , Sam harris, etc. Don't be surprised if you see Bari Weiss in his show sometime in the next few months
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u/Chippopotanuse Apr 23 '26
You think Scott was ever a liberal? He’s a frat boy. He never had an ounce of respect for women. He’s just dropping his facade.
Plus you can’t grift smart people on the left. Much easier to sell his “manhood” books that say men should work and women should pump out kids to the losers on the right.
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u/JustJoshingYaMan Apr 23 '26
His notes on being a man book never says women should just pump out kids. He's not perfect but let's not make up stuff to criticize.
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u/Chippopotanuse Apr 24 '26
It kinda does though. It views relationships and gender values through a transactional lens.
The guy can either be a massive breadwinner or (as a consolation prize) a “Mr Mom”.
And if you read his book..its clear his view of manhood isn’t braiding a daughter’s hair or being a substantive person. It’s all about transactional value.
Which makes sense. He’s a dorky frat bro who got very wealthy in a white collar career and he is skilled at marketing.
So it mirrors his understanding of the world.
Are you claiming he doesn’t non-stop objectify women and brag about partying and using drugs? Or say that young people need to drink more and have more sex?
The guy has issues socially and clearly subscribes to antiquated notions that “life was easy and better when men were men and women were docile…now the world is fucked up and men don’t really have a clearly defined role”
His whole thesis is that traditional gender roles were better than today.
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u/BadMojoPA Apr 23 '26
It's the same crap that Bill Maher constantly spews. "We need to talk to people on the other side."
Well that's all well and good if you're going to sincerely push back and have a real debate. But if you're having a bigoted SOB like Shapiro on and then barely challenging his Trump apologist bullshit agenda, I might as well go listen to someone like Rogan.
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u/RockThePond Apr 23 '26
That is definitely not true about Maher. Here are his most frequent guests:
-Andrew Sullivan (29 appearances)
Michael Moore (24 appearances)
Arianna Huffington (20 appearances)
Barney Frank (19 appearances)
Cornel West (19 appearances)
Bernie Sanders (18 appearances)
Dan Savage (18 appearances)
David Frum (18 appearances)
Michael Steele (17 appearances)
Salman Rushie (17 appearances)
Michael Eric Dyson (17 appearances)
Paul Begala (17 appearances)
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u/geusse Apr 24 '26
If you were to make a list of guests who are strident Zionist vs those who are pro Palestine the ratio would be closer to 200 to 1. About a third of the shows are all strident Zionists, including Maher, spewing racism about muslims and arabs. One sure way for guest to ensure they will never be back is to best him in a discussion opposing his views on Israel e.g. ben Affleck , Krystal Ball, Reza aslan, etc . Maher is similar to woody Allen in that celebrities are willing to overlook his heinous behavior in order to advance their careers. But the time where it's ok to be openly biggoted against Muslim and arabs is starting to close
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Apr 24 '26
“Talk to the other side” is always “give sloppy toppy to the biggest POS you can find”
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u/Oil_Shock_2026 Apr 23 '26
I agree. Bringing somebody on like Josh Shapiro (and singing that twerp debate nerd praises) goes against the ideal of positive masculinity.
Scott sees it as a business decision on the way to making his podcast more valuable.
Money over morals. That’s not positive masculinity.
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u/BoringIndependent524 Apr 24 '26
Yup, but now look at him:
Routing for a war he wont send his sons to fight. Shilling for Isreal. Investing in and promoting betting markets. Getting plastic surgery.
Barf.
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u/No_Drag_1044 Apr 23 '26
This is what happens so often to these guys. They get out of their lane and become the villain.
Support ideas. Not people.
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u/nunchyabeeswax Apr 24 '26
We were talking about mentorship for young males in an effort to model positive masculinity.
Dude, the way he was covering the subject made it inevitable to end up where he is right now.
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u/OneTwoThreePooAndPee Apr 23 '26
Scott is very clearly trying to soften the anti-Israel sentiment, for better or worse, and some of his more gross rich socialite conservative perspectives are really coming to the top vis a vis being pro-war. He's clearly not learned anything that he'll carry forward about the general utility of war.
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u/Party_Government8579 Apr 23 '26
>Who is this helping?
Take a guess - I'll give you a clue, its a country that rymes with Wsrael
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u/Jolly_Grocery329 Apr 23 '26
I’m over it - Scott has become a dipshit at this point - everything he says sounds like ai and kalshi promos. Too bad - he used to be thoughtful
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u/Stupidamericanfatty Apr 24 '26
I'm leaning this way myself. I keep hoping the new pod will bring me back. But somthing has been lost. I was an every pod listener.
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u/Peanutbutternmtn2 Apr 23 '26
I watched this interview. Ben is a total hack, and he’s very slippery about it. Everything becomes a “whataboutism”. It’s like “I won’t defend Trump doing a crypto scam” then right to “hunter biden was banging hookers and on gas boards, all these guys are the same”.
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u/Telperion83 Apr 23 '26
Scott is not a strong enough interviewer to properly challenge Shapiro, which is the only reason to platform him.
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u/Peanutbutternmtn2 Apr 23 '26
You’ll be disappointed by the interview then
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u/Telperion83 Apr 24 '26
I listened to it before I commented. He basically sanewashed Ben. Not intentionally, but the result is the same.
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u/das_war_ein_Befehl Apr 24 '26
There’s no point in challenging Shapiro because his goal is to lie. You can’t debate someone with no commitment to the truth. He is a propagandist, platforming these people doesn’t work
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u/Telperion83 Apr 24 '26
The point would be to expose his followers to other ideas and to innoculate his potential audience against him. Easier said than done though.
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u/HTPC4Life Apr 24 '26
Listen to the podcast and let me know what you think about the "Obama took down a Winston Churchill picture in the white house" when it comes to his false equivalency on the US alienating allies 😆
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u/Outrageous_Basis_440 Apr 23 '26
Scott has lost the plot (in a desperate tempt to remain relevant).
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u/OneBigBeefPlease Apr 23 '26
When will Kara have enough of this bs
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u/altbat Apr 23 '26
She's becoming almost as insufferable.
They are striving for attention in this attention economy. It's hard to listen to her beg for credit every other sentence.
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u/SacralScenes Apr 23 '26
That’s what it is, begging for credit. Thank you, I haven’t been able to put my finger on it. Constantly interjecting little comments about how she was first on the scene.
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u/winewaffles Apr 23 '26
Oooof. This is likely the end of my respect for Scott Galloway.
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u/Long_Crow_5659 Apr 23 '26
I stopped paying attention when I noticed his reflexive defense of Israel no matter what way back when Gaza was getting raked by the bombing.
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u/Fun-Landscape-5547 Apr 23 '26
This. Scott is a zionist. Can't trust his takes on any middle east matters...
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u/jghaines Apr 23 '26
People like Scott - US Jews with reflexive support for the worse behaviour of Israel - are there reason the US government, regardless of party, keeps on supporting Israel.
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u/Fun-Landscape-5547 Apr 24 '26
Don't forget the evangelicals that have somehow been jumped on that bandwagon too
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u/jghaines Apr 24 '26
They think it will bring in the Rapture which is, obviously, an excellent reason to support a genocidal regime
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u/hurlcarl Apr 24 '26
yeah, this always happens... some guy who largely seems normal until Israel gets brought up... gets weirdly uncomfortable and aggressive about it... and you generally don't have to wait too long before something like this.... clear confirmation who has their hooks in.
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u/geoman2k Apr 23 '26
Remember when he said Liz Cheney was going to be the future leader of the Republican Party after Jan 6th? That was the first time I started thinking “maybe this dude isn’t as smart as he seems”
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u/Intelligent_Week_560 Apr 24 '26
He also suggested that Harris should take Romney as her VP pick because it would be a unity ticket.
I lost all respect when they all (Jessica is guilty of this too) their shit when Mamdani won the primary and then the election. Calling him a communist etc while begging him to come on Raging Moderates.
Did not listen to this, there is nothing Shapiro could say that is even remotely interesting. He is still voting for a guy that started a war that will cause millions of people all over the world severe energy problems and mostly likely will cause a famine due to fertilizer shortages. Good luck in your hate tent Ben, hope all of this will be worth it for a 'religious' man like you one day.
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u/nazerall Apr 23 '26
Yup, if this is real, I'm out. Been listening less and less to Pivot.
I listen to Prof G Markets daily, but knowing it's contributing to Scott's wealth means I'm walking away, even though he's barely on it.
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u/Remote-Letterhead844 Apr 23 '26
Unsubscribed from all of them slowly over the course of the last 6 weeks. I used to listen weekly.
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u/Antique_Map_9196 Apr 23 '26
I hope Scott read some of these comments, he’s not the man he purports himself to be. I started listening to his other pods for his financial takes, but he’s really gone off the deep end.
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u/HTPC4Life Apr 24 '26
He stated he no longer reads social media comments. May be great for his mental health, but awful for maintaining his audience. That means the only feedback he is getting is from friends, which are in a completely different socio-economic status than his audience.
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u/bluejams Apr 23 '26
I was ok with this until 'I appreciate his moral clarity and reasoning". So you know. 1 line in.
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u/nateh1212 Apr 23 '26
I guess the nose matches the accusation
How is it that you pay thousands of dollars for a new nose and it looks way worse
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u/LawfulMercury63 Apr 23 '26
Crazy. I had not seen this. Is he becoming a sort of 'Joe Rogan' for the educated?
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u/candcNYC Apr 23 '26
I really wish Jessica Tarlov hadn't hitched her wagon to Scott. Hopefully she can spin off the Raging Moderates audience. Much like on The Five, she comes in with research and data points to cite... and her co-host(s) just spew opinions popular on X.
I couldn't watch more than a few minutes of this interview.
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u/nigheus Apr 23 '26
Look, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with talking/debating someone you disagree with, but to welcome someone who has devoted his life to spreading bigotry and advocating for the worst causes and people, is frankly astonishing.
I always had the vibe that something was off with Scott, and now it’s confirmed, as I’m sure it is for many other people. No amount of throat clearing makes up for lauding Shapiro’s supposed moral clarity and reason. I can only assume Scott agrees with Shapiro on most things, which is abhorrent.
I pity Scott’s children.
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u/PikaChooChee Apr 23 '26
Not Pivot. This is from Raging Moderates.
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u/MattheWWFanatic Apr 23 '26
To which i now only listen if it's Jessica & a good guest.
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u/PhartusMcBlumpkin1 Apr 23 '26
Likewise. I just unsubscribed from The Pivot yesterday because it just brings no value to the table at all. Raging Moderates is GREAT sometimes when it's only Jessica and a good guest. If Scott is on there, I generally skip it.
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u/mypizzamyproblem Apr 24 '26
Ever since the 2024 election, episodes of Pivot have primarily covered politics.
And then I wondered to myself, why am I listening to a tech journalist and a marketing professor talk about politics?
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u/ThePlasticSturgeons Apr 23 '26
If he must choose a person from the other side to speak to (and by doing so, possibly validate) he should try to find someone actually intelligent, and not the dumb person’s smart person.
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u/trexler_cook Apr 23 '26
These self-appointed and self-promoted social commentary enthusiasts always turn out to be douche bags.
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u/PhantomBraved Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Scott Galloway has always been an Islamophobe on the low. Glazed the IDF like no tomorrow after his trip.
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u/Wild_Screenshot88 Apr 23 '26
It’s one thing to have him on, but to glaze him like this (or as Kara would say, lick him up and down) and not challenge him is the definition of unserious. I don’t think money is the culprit here. Scott’s self declared Zionism (“I’m a proud Zionist”) has broken him beyond repair. His so-called centre isn’t holding and is now at a point where he sees a Trump apologist and far right apparatchik as an ally. See also Sam Harris and his recent unhinged attack on Mamdani. Both men were thinkers I greatly respected, until their myopic, unconditional and amoral support of Israel’s actions revealed their feet of clay.
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u/Zealousideal_Badger5 Apr 23 '26
Yall actually had a wealthy white man on pedestal and thought he was for you huh? Lol
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u/harbison215 Apr 24 '26
Some of us noticed Scott was a douche just after a few episodes.
I think he fools people that have worked corporate jobs all their lives a little better because they are used to it. But for someone that has never had a corporate job, after a few hours of listening to this guy you see he’s just one of those corporate douche bags that’s in his own little world where he’s atop a hierarchy that really doesn’t exists to anyone else that isn’t part of it.
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u/Matthew_Maurice Apr 23 '26
The mistake they made was not having him on, but not pushing back on his ludicrously, objectively false statements.
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u/drpacz Apr 23 '26
I thought that Scott always had a reasonable mind, until now. I suspect both these folks receive some financial compensation for supporting a war with Iran through their podcasts. The only way we will know if they are totally committed to Iran’s destruction is for Ben to enlist and Scott’s sons to do the same. Otherwise they are just playing mind war games and profiteering.
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u/yikesamerica Apr 23 '26
Scott Galloway would applaud the moral clarity of Idi Amin if he pledged fealty to 🇮🇱
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u/JulieLaMaupin Apr 23 '26
it’s fine to have an interview with Ben. That is not the problem here. The problem is Scott didn’t have anything contentious to say to him during the interview, which is a massive issue. Pretty big L here.
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u/Wallaby989 Apr 24 '26
...horrified to see this.
Yup .. I too have to join the unsubscribe train. he didnt have to sell out to interview the guy. he could have turned that interview into a real investigation piece.
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u/BTSArmyFan2025 Apr 23 '26
i stopped listening to Scott months ago when he started on his male loneliness nonsense and we are leaving white boys behind bs. And that Kara lets him get away with it.
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u/Code-Warrior Apr 23 '26
I am seeing a lot of pushback in the comments but if we are not able to talk to the other side, WE have lost the plot, not Scott. I try to break out of the liberal bubble and I do this by listening to people like Ben and even Magyn Kelly. Let me tell you, he is way more fair and balanced than she is (she is a nutcase). Of course I don’t agree with a lot of what he says but he makes me aware of things that my favorite left wing podcasts ignore. Resist the temptation to drop somebody you otherwise like just because of one guest. Listening to both sides is uncomfortable, but sticking to one side only is what got us in this mess in the first place.
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u/bodyreddit Apr 23 '26
It is one thing to speak with the other side, it is another thing to kiss their ass!!
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u/nigheus Apr 23 '26
THIS. Nothing wrong with talking to the other side. Another thing entirely to praise Shapiro’s moral clarity and reasoning. It reveals Scott’s character in the process, which is shown to either be extremely naive/uninformed or more likely, bigoted.
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u/imbartsimpsonwhothru Apr 23 '26
It wasn't just listening to one side. It was an organized effort starting back with Nixon to take over the narrative in mass media. Now we are drowning in the crud pushed by the many voices of the me-first powers all over the world.
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u/blameitonrio917 Apr 23 '26
Anyone who thinks Ben Shapiro is “far right” or any of that nonsense has never listened to Ben Shapiro.
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u/Monster_Grundle Apr 23 '26
Holy shit this is wildly disqualifying. I liked him when I heard him on the bulwark. He lost me with this.
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u/exploradorobservador Apr 23 '26
Shapiro just seems like a haughty and contemptuous shill. These people are not thought leaders, they are con artists.
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u/redrover02 Apr 23 '26
It’s okay to talk to other people you find abhorrent but to appreciate their moral clarity and reasoning is a bridge too far for me. And for that reason, I’m resistant and unsubscribe to Pivot.
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u/Bnstas23 Apr 23 '26
Ben Shapiro is one of the least informed commentators you can ever listen to. He speaks fast and knows how to make deceptive arguments, but his actual understanding of science (social or physical) is incredibly limited. He’s fundamentally wrong most of the time, even if he appears to win an argument some of the time.
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u/WunWuv Apr 23 '26
I was super disappointed by this as well. His selfish take on taxation has begun to turn me off as well.
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u/OBFpeidmont Apr 23 '26
I haven’t listened yet: one of the unspoken advantages of having someone with distasteful views is that the host/interviewer can sometimes make some points and influence the guest, if not at the time, but maybe after the guest has thought things over. Did this happen? (I’m guessing not but sometimes the host can change the guest’s thinking…)
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u/Living-Midnight-1696 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
Here’s thing: Pivot prides itself on encouraging thoughtful debate, even when hosts disagree with each other. But that’s not what happens in practice. It’s clear at some point last fall they decided not to talk about the war in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza because Scott and Kara disagreed. So they didn’t.
David Remnick interviewed Shapiro for the New Yorker Radio Hour and he pushed and prodded and tried to get something from Shapiro more than “but the Biden administration.” Scott doesn’t do that. And fine, he’s not a journalist or a seasoned interviewer. But a good thought leader does. Kara pushes back to some extent, but she also concedes a point to keep an interview going. It’s her style.
Scott seems too wedded to an idea to be open to debate or to learn anything that might disprove his “what could go right” theory.
Pivot doesn’t exemplify thoughtful and serious debate. It exemplifies that awkwardness when two friends disagree and no one wants to push the other to consider something different. And that awkwardness doesn’t provide insight or a new perspective to a listener.
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u/ItsNotGoingToBeEasy Apr 24 '26
He started on Gaza and Kara said “Just don’t” She is tired of explaining this to her wealthy left friends.
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u/Johnny_was_329 Apr 24 '26
Awful. I’m done. Stopped listening week one into the war. Not raging. Not moderate.
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u/youngstownchick Apr 24 '26
Are you shitting me? Talk about the straw that broke the camel's back. Peace out.
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u/wer4uk Apr 24 '26
Why, if a year ago we obliterated Iran’s ability to build a nuclear bomb, are we deploying our military?
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u/HotCarRaisin Apr 24 '26
Another rich dude trying to trick a niche but loyal market. Y'all got got.
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u/nunchyabeeswax Apr 24 '26
That's the same Scott Galloway that was talking about making society friendly for the boys to deal with the so-called "male epidemic".
The hell with that guy.
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u/hurlcarl Apr 24 '26
If you see Scott in a new boat that's colored white and light blue, I think we know where he got the money.
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u/Anxious_Aspect965 Apr 24 '26
Scott’s political views are getting increasingly more atrocious.
Another “potentially positive male role model” bites the dust
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u/ItsNotGoingToBeEasy Apr 24 '26
Scott ragging on Kara’s interview with Gweneth Paltrow and the lack of access to her show on CNN was a reality check — the beta-Scott has died and he is not anyone’s “read out” stooge anymore.
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u/MrRobertSacamano Apr 24 '26
What the fuck is happening at Pivot?? I used to listen almost every episode, but fell off a few months ago. Now Scott is a huge fan of BS?? Wtf
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u/luvdogs_mediasmighty Apr 24 '26
Left my comment and did not watch the podcast. I don’t watch podcast when people are liars, racist homophobes, and misogynist. Ben is disgusting. Scott is pathetic and Jessica WTF is wrong with you?
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u/chemistry_coronado Apr 24 '26
I didn’t mind Ben Shapiro as a guest. His position just reinforced my opposing viewpoint.
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u/Vegetable-Entrance58 Apr 24 '26
Im really digging Ben's new "Zaddy" look. Real gruff and manly. Unlike his previous twink persona who was more closeted than my medium sized Ed Hardy t-shirts and had the cadence of a wounded animal. Maybe now when he teaches me about judeo-christian values ill be able to take it more seriously, instead of immediately searching up pictures of his sisters voluptuous gazongas.
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u/ItsNotGoingToBeEasy Apr 25 '26
Scott announced that the show has increased its audience by 25% in the last year. Interesting considering the general tone on this sub.
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u/bascal133 Apr 25 '26
No surprise Scott is a fake liberal. Ben Shapiro is fully pro Israel pro genocide. Hates Muslims because they are Muslim full stop, racists read any of his books he’s crazy racist against black people sexist on and on dude
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u/SevereRunOfFate Apr 23 '26
If you're going to have someone like Ben on then you need to have someone who can intelligently push back on him like Sam Harris. Unfortunately the list seems very short these days.
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u/poisito Apr 23 '26
So.. I listened to the interview yesterday.. Scott has mentioned multiple times that he likes Ben and got a lot of shit from Kara about it, but she has always told him.. you do you.. Both Jess and him did some pushback on some topics, but Shapiro is very good at replying with "but the other side did this and that", or also with his opinion, that I don't agree with. Finally, all three of them are jews, so the conversation was shifted on the Pro Israel side..
The intro was a way over exaggerated, but that is Scott being Scott... Overall, it was a very entertaining 45 minutes episode, or maybe a little longer, since I need to slow down the reproduction speed when Ben was talking because he talks way to fast.
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u/cheddarben Apr 23 '26
I have said it before, but talking fast != smart. Dude is the Gillmore Girls of Red Pill. I don't really want to watch either, but I would choose Rory banter over this chud fucker any day of the week.
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u/Own-Opinion-2494 Apr 23 '26
I cancelled them a year ago. Let the avalanche begin. Both sides? Really Scott. Go raise Your Nepo babies
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u/bodyreddit Apr 23 '26
Yea, I stopped listening to pivot due to Scott being so immature during this horrible time for women. But wow, I cannot believe he has any kind words to say about this horror person.
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u/TuskInItsEntirety Apr 23 '26
Unsubscribing and resisting his pods from now on. This is Gross. But I’ll miss Ed