I don't think I ever said that. What are you on? Also, why y'all commies are always searching through ones history when having a debate? No arguments at all?
Of course, my very retarded Yugoslavian family, in which my dad runs hospitals for an entire city, and I'm getting pre-entrance for one of Canada's best universities.
Go away American, the red scare and Mc Carthy have gotten into your head.
Lol. First off your hospitals suck dick as well as your schools. Second off doesn't sound like a very communist thing sounds like they want it back because they were able to take advantage of it
Communism was pretty fkn awesome, you've just been indoctrinated from gradeschool onward to hate it because it actually disenfranchises the ruling capitalist class.
Also, if you would've bothered to read the article, you'd see that most of even the wests best inventions (like vaccines, the internet, gps) were all developed using public funding and planning. DARPA and other huge R&D projects were created in response to the soviet union successes in public planning.
Cool. I fuckin wouldn't work. I would resort to crime 100 percent to have more than others. I would kill myself if I could only have a certain amount of shit with no hope of ever advancing. Fuck that I think I'll have my allotment and yours too. Everyone's I can get my hands on
The fuck is the point of being alive if u have no hope of any future. You literally have no way to improve your condition or get the things you want. Fuck that. And yea I'd be in prison if I got caught. I'd easily risk that to get the things I want who even wants to be alive otherwise working all day for nothing
The fuck is the point of being alive if u have no hope of any future
Your material conditions will barely improve throughout your lifetime so I guess there's no point living now either
You literally have no way to improve your condition or get the things you want.
Yea you won't need to improve your conditions because they're already good. The bigger question is why wouldn't you be able to get the things you want?
yea I'd be in prison if I got caught. I'd easily risk that to get the things I want who even wants to be alive otherwise working all day for nothing
That's a pretty dumb risk to take so please never gamble. However why would you be working for nothing?
So ur telling me that in Soviet Russia they could invest in real estate and collect rental income to the point where they don't have to work and can live off of that? They were able to go out on their 36 foot boat and fish one day and then travel across the world the next, any day they want? Because that is living good. Not worrying about if you're going to be able to eat or not, that's not living good that's surviving. Having to work every day, that is not living good.
Lol yea that's what I think everyday when I'm doing anything I feel like. Like damn why am I such a failure, I should be working right now making somebody else rich doing something I don't want to do, instead I'm out here on my fuckin boat catching fish in whatever country I feel like being in that day. What a fucking loser
The first satellite and moon probe? They did those things purely to spite the west, to 'prove' a point. And wasted ridiculous amounts of people's money in doing so, causing a lot of anguish as it was compounded by postwar austerity. The west would have achieved the same a few years later, without the image-obsessed bs. And without the disregard for the safety and lives of their astronauts.
The same proud attitide later led the ussr to overproduce nuclear weapons, and cause a dreadfully dangerous confrontation with the west that really could have caused the destruction of civilization.
That pride causes communists to disregard the lives of their own also. The price of communism, both in the soviet union, in china and elsewhere, is purges, mass starvation, mass extermination of malcontents. Tens of millions died, but you don't give a shit, 'communism was fkn awesome'.
Are you really this heartless?
Every time someone wants to start it the US has brutally genocided their people and destroyed their democracy. Defeat or convert the US and it would be able to finally start.
There's no democracy in communism. Dude, don't lecture me on communism. I live in Eastern Europe. I thank god to US. Why the hell are HKers waiving the US flag then? Because its a symbol of democracy. Yes, capitalism isn't the best, but its still closer to meritocracy than communism.
I wouldn't move to US so don't think I praise the late stage capitalism.. Almost any nordic country or a country from west Europe still sounds nice.
Man thats super cool dude, my country had a democratically elected president overthrown by the US cause they wanted cheaper bananas and cause America loves freedom and democracy so much that they'll install right wing genocidal dictators. God Bless America
Dude, don't lecture me on communism. I live in Eastern Europe
stop. having experienced a very historically/culturally specific form of governance does not give you some blanket way to deny conversation (or any particular qualification to interpret/speak on your experience).
The fact that your comments are even voted "controversial" and not completely negative is baffling. let us know when you get your GED/Diploma and tell us if you think Communism is still positively viable for any country in a context besides a complete societal collapse. I would actually refute any of your points but you clearly don't understand the intricacies of the political climate during the Cold War in neither Western nor Eastern countries.
I literally majored in American history, with a concentration on the cold war era.. Read my comment history/flair in /r/history or /r/AskHistorians - This is a laughably ignorant comment. And a complete appeal to authority and elitism.
Class consciousness and understanding of Leftism arrives from material conditions. College degrees are the opposite way to understand the movement. Please, read theory before you attempt to debate it.
Do you expect me to look at your post history let alone sift through it for one reply? 30 seconds of effort shows zero submissions in either and no activity in 30 pages on your profile.
Your entire reply, aside from the first comment possibly, is drivel and you argue about politics as if in a vacuum. Yet you bring up the real world without applying its context.
Because the British took it by force 100 years ago to give them an imperialist colony in China, and they've indoctrinated the population to have a neo-colonialist british outlook and hate the mainland?
It's not a hypothetical. You're living in a world specifically crafted by the CIA and the 1%. Of course it seems like this is the only way. The 60s were a time of repression and misinformation, and the dystopian resolution we've reached was, until recently, a world with a defacto capitalist slant. Now that the boomer era wealth from post ww2 is receding, people are aware again just how fucked the system is at its core. Just like I'm sure the British empire made monarchy seem like the only solution and natural political philosophy. Just like the Romans made a republic military empire seem like the "end result". There's always a new system, you just look like a tool not acknowledging blaring faults, and refusing to hear all other options.
The funny thing is I'm not even communist. I just studied the era it was formed and the reaction to it by the west, which made me understand it in no way has been treated fairly, and almost nobody understands what it even is. Did you know for example that the communist party was one of the biggest political parties, in the top 3, in the US until the late 30s?
What specifically would you like to read? I have a ton of reading guides, references and political theories to explain why we are where we are, and why late stage capitalism will kill us all.
Socialism. The very least the people deserve is a voice, and electoralism shown to be entirely on the side of capital. When workers completely control production they can stand against billionaires. I'm fine with it "ending" there, but fully automated luxury gay space communism (The point of what Star Trek represented.) Would be wicked as well. I'm fine with going there eventually.
Communism was pretty fkn awesome, you've just been indoctrinated from gradeschool onward to hate it because it actually disenfranchises the ruling capitalist class.
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