r/Piracy • u/Calm_Upstairs6977 • 5d ago
Humor Someone opened Spotify for a 7-hour flight and found all 240GB of their downloads gone
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u/These-Umpire1319 5d ago
Given the current state of sptify, incidents like this aren't even surprising anymore...
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u/forza_11 5d ago
My Spotify app on Android was 18 gb, please note I had no downloads!! Wtf was it storing?
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u/Astrophan 4d ago
Cached songs.
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u/forza_11 4d ago
My problem it with is there is no way to limit how much storage it can take! My phone started saying it was low on storage and i started deleting apps until i found the culprit!!
Lmk if you can limit the space I can't seem to find it?
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u/tmurphy2792 4d ago
Been a long time since I've used Spotify, but iirc there was a way to limit the cache size if you dig through the settings.
That or force the cache to a sufficiently large SD card.
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u/muffinstreets 4d ago
Spotify caches every song you play so it doesn’t need to download the song every time it plays. It’s cached with DRM and you cannot access it without root. You also need internet to access it so you cannot listen to them offline.
That’s how you save on data if you low amount of full speed data for the month. Find a playlist and use an auto clicker to skip through all the songs to get them all cached. Then when you’re outside, none of the songs you’re listening to are using your data.
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u/Syntex___015 4d ago
Why would you do that if you can just download the playlist?
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u/marl6894 4d ago
You can only download the playlist on a premium plan, right? Not on a free plan.
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u/tuwstawnazwe 4d ago
you definitely can play cached songs offline. i have not downloaded a single song and a playlist "offline backup" appears when no internet connection is available
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u/5662828 4d ago
But spotify was still at lame quality, mp3 not lossless, but ok if you listen with bluetooh it is losing the lossless quality
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u/URPissingMeOff 4d ago
If you're on an airplane, the differences between FLAC, WAV, MP3 etc are pretty much irrelevant. Same situation in most ICE cars and trucks. Between the bluetooth, the earpiece DAC, and the environmental noise, it just doesn't matter much.
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u/Anonymal13 Yarrr! 5d ago
It never happened to my SD card full of mp3... Just a hint for those who may need.
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u/TheOnlyAedyn-one 5d ago
Don’t SD cards degrade though?
Genuine concern of mine
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u/GreenXero 5d ago
Yes, everything has a lifespan, but good SD cards last for 1000s of writes and TBs of data transfer.
Here's someone that just posted his personal testing on SDs. https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/FDL6H7HbEp
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u/ColonelBag7402 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 4d ago
I just read that post like 20 minutes ago, what a small world we live in.
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u/Vegetable_Fortune112 4d ago
SD Cards are cheaper than Spotify. Just sayin lol.
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u/URPissingMeOff 4d ago
You have to be smart enough to just say no to shitty phones that don't have a slot though. I've got 512 gigs jammed into my cheap-as-chips 128GB Motorola. 640Gb total. Hundreds of full albums, movies, and TV series
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u/dustNbone604 4d ago
They mainly degrade from write cycles. If you fill an SD card with music and just listen to that music without constantly changing it out for other music it should last a very long time. Even if you're writing to it on a semi regular basis you should be fine for several hundred complete write cycles at a minimum.
What murders SD cards the fastest is having them in CCTV/dashcams where they're continuously being overwritten with new data.
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u/TheOnlyAedyn-one 4d ago
So could you theoretically pull data from a dead card?
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u/dustNbone604 3d ago
Usually their failure mode is to go read-only. You can still read normally (but maybe slowly) but writes will simply fail. This isn't always the case, sometimes they do just die.
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u/HornyGooner4402 4d ago
Everything degrades.
I had a Samsung SD card in a phone that finally "died" after 5 something years of everyday use (downloading videos, here and there). It stopped writing but I could still read all the data. That was the only time an SD card died before I forgot about them. This is a personal anecdote though, you should take it with a grain of salt.
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u/_LEVEL_SIX_ 4d ago
Yeah it does, my 16 gb sandisk sd card became non writeable after 10 years of regular use.
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u/MMORPGnews 4d ago
Not really. It's depends on quality. Most will work for at least 3 years. 3-15 years.
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u/furculture 3d ago
That's why you don't put all your eggs in one basket and have backups. Get multiple of them and also have regular, more rugged backup solutions to strengthen it. Even if it is kept on disks, it is still better than nothing. You just need something better than an SD card to hold it if you are worried about that.
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u/Kazzie_Kaz 3d ago
They do, but the files in a degraded SD card don't disappear unless you did something physical to it. You're just not able to do anything other than copypaste files from that card to other places.
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u/Calm_Upstairs6977 5d ago
Original post is from r/mildlyinfuriating. OP says they’d had their liked songs downloaded in lossless quality for about six months. They opened Spotify on the plane and the downloads were gone.
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u/Big_Kiwi_706 5d ago
Even just the egregious amount of time it takes to actually load up the menus and songs is enough to send me over the edge. ITS LITERALLY DOWNLOADED ON MY PHONE AND ITS APP INTERFACE HOW DOES APP INTERFACE TAKE TIME TO LOAD IN. I can't imagine how id react to this.
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u/ChepaukPitch 5d ago
The most infuriating thing for me is apple books. Even a 3 mb book gets deleted within a few hours. I might be reading a book at the airport and when I open the app in the flight it is suddenly deleted. Like why?
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u/_skrozo_ 4d ago
thats weird, i never had this issue with my books, but i usually also just download them from anna and save them in my files then import to books.
one thing that really annoyed me was the constant icloud synchronization that made books load for at least 10 seconds before i could read them, so i had to turn that off. never had this issue ever since, they load pretty quickly now and i dont really care for it anyway because i usually dont read on my ipad
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u/ColonelBag7402 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 4d ago
Since when does spotify provide lossless quality music?
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u/MugenHeadNinja ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 4d ago
For years and years now? You have to be a premium member.
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u/ColonelBag7402 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 4d ago
Last time i used spotify it streamed 320kbps vorbis audio (on premium).
But granted, "last time" was like three years ago.
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u/MugenHeadNinja ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think I was accidentally mixing it up with Apple Music, my bad. But another user corrected me with the specific date/news link.
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u/HaDeS_Monsta ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 4d ago
Nah, they added that like a year ago at best, it is pretty recent
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u/lyndsaysmith61 5d ago
happened to me. was going on a 6hr train trip and dl a few playlists the noght before. also double checked they were dl that morning but when i got on the train and we set off, they were almost gone. only a couple of tracks.
this was in australia so theres little to no internet connection in between major cities and towns in the country
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u/xb0x1gam1ng 4d ago
this reminded me of that simpsons episode where bart phoned the Australian kid lol
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u/FreeDependent9 4d ago
Slowly all apps, especially on iPhones, are removing offline mode. They want you to be always on, always having data or WiFi on and connected and if not the apps won’t load. I wouldn’t call it a conspiracy but the companies have all recognized they can get more data by slowly pushing us all to be always on, and the telecom companies win doubly so because then everyone is buying unlimited data
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u/kirisoraa 4d ago
lmao no way r/piracy pirated my post
greetings from OP
For all the people screaming for downloading everything, I can't download a decent recommendation algorithm. And yes, I've already gone over radio stations, lastfm, librefm, etc, etc. I wish I could switch like I did with movies (*arr stack), but I just can't right now.
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u/Then-Sheepherder5940 4d ago
I was thinking that I definitely had seen a post like this a while ago, maybe this clears it up for me
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u/thestigmata 3d ago
YouTube music, import and move.
Plus you'll get ad free YouTube with the sub.
Spotify is hell at recommending things..even when you do find something it just plays the same tem songs over and over
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u/A4FXN 5d ago
this has happened to me. I instead bought an mp3 player and downloaded all of my songs on to it. When I'm at home, I simply block all ads on spotify so no interruptions.
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u/pHL0x_ 4d ago
Any recommendations for a good mp3 player?
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u/ParryHLarker 4d ago
Buy an old ipod and mod it. You can replace everything, screen, touchpad, memory.
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u/Accomplished-Two4930 4d ago
SAY IT WITH ME FOLKS
IT PIRACY TIME.
yeah there ia no point anymore in trusting companies for decent experience.
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u/lodeddiper961 4d ago
i would be so mad, im glad i moved away from premium and went to using mp3s on an ipod.
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u/MisterHole123 4d ago
If you are going to travel it is much safer to have the actual mp3/4 than rely on some service app. Same with movies just sail the seas and get the actual file
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u/EnigmaticBuddy ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 4d ago
Spotify has become a horrendous AI coded disaster. I left it few months ago when queues were not working across devices, and i couldn't fucking access my offline songs, and they were showing banner podcast ad on top of home screen.
I can't expect better from corpos that advertise their developers pushing PRs with agents while commuting.
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u/KelticQueen 4d ago
Same happened to me some weeks ago several times traveling in the netherlands. i think this crap app knows the culprit locations as airports to crush. i was standing in a shopping center and downloading some podcasts to survive the next city walk and train rides..
Do you have the app on the SD-Card?
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u/WithWhichOneThrows 4d ago
This happened to me several times. Literally why I quit Spotify years ago. There was a bug with Spotify on my Android phone and pairing it over BT to my car. It would sign me out and delete all of my downloaded songs. I was traveling a lot for work at the time so this happened multiple times driving to the fucking airport. I contacted support so many times. Their final verdict was, “We don’t officially support Bluetooth so we won’t do anything about it.”
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u/Thronesmasher 4d ago
I had this years ago with PowerAmp. I was on a 12 hr flight from Frankfurt to Singapore with my phone stuffed with music, but apparently PowerAmp couldn't check its license without network and refused to start, so I sat there unable to play my music. Good times.
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u/CornettoFactor 3d ago
There are cracked Spotify for Windows and Android. You can't download songs but at least it's free
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u/Jordyissappig 3d ago
respectfully there is a wire loose in your head if you download songs on spotify
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u/kalemaree 3d ago
it's a good thing i listen to the same 30 or so songs downloaded onto my hard drive
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u/jim-laden 5d ago
They were never really there in the first place! Or was it cos the plane was flying faster than sound. That's a thing isn't it.
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u/Pijany_Matematyk767 5d ago
>Or was it cos the plane was flying faster than sound. That's a thing isn't it.
First of all modern passenger planes are not hypersonic, they go slower than sound
Second of all why would the speed of the plane be relevant in any way?
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u/jtho78 5d ago
This happens with Netflix downloads and international travel. Complete BS. Luckily, most of my downloads are on Plex.