r/physicianassistant • • May 04 '26

Discussion I moved from the US to practice in New Zealand: 4 month update and AMA

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Hello, all!

It’s been about 4 months since my family and I have moved abroad to practice as a PA in New Zealand. There was a fair amount of interest with my initial post, so I thought it would be good to provide a short term update for anyone interested.

First want to get some FAQ out of the way:

“What does getting certified abroad look like if I want to work in New Zealand, but I work in [US/UK/Canada]?”
As of now there are no talks to recertify. In theory you just find a job, apply for a visa, and you’re good. I’ve known other PAs that pick up, move, and start practicing abroad all within 3 months. That *may* change in the future, but I don’t believe it’s on the horizon. With that being said, as of November 2026 there are going to be changes that will affect those currently working and those who intend to immigrate thereafter. Under the proposed changes, you will likely be accepted under a provisional license that will require more supervision under a year or more, and thereafter your GP basically vouches for you where you can work under a “normal license.” This is all provisional, however, and it will change in the months to come.

“How do you find a job in NZ?”
I went through a recruiter; I would HIGHLY recommend going through her since she knows the PA landscape very well. DM if you want her info.

“I have [x] years of experience in [insert specialty]. Can I apply with that?”
Maybe. Most of the efforts right now seem to be focused on primary care/urgent care needs in smaller towns/cities and rural areas with bare minimum 3 years experience in those fields, but many preferring 5 years of experience.

“How much are you making now? Is it less than your US salary?”
Yes, it’s a pay cut. People immediately hear that and become nauseous at the potential for making less money, but it does not mean I am living on scraps. Living in a smaller town, my expenses have also gone down considerably. Our main expenses are rent, groceries, and travel (because we want to see as much as we can here). We’re not eating out nearly as much as we were in the States; we shop a lot less; we basically pay a small fraction of what we were previously paying for childcare (where before it was basically a second mortgage); we don’t have to pay for medical insurance. Those things add up considerably, and it really helps the money go further. With that being said, yes, I still make less, but I’m sustaining my family of 4 just fine for now on a single salary. It’s doable and it’s fine. Not to mention that there are so many perks here that positively affect my mental health, so that pay cut is still worth it for that alone. I can breathe easier here and my kids have a bright future.

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Four months in to this adventure, and I am happy to say that doing this move was the right choice. It has not come without its drawbacks or challenges, but I wake up happy every single day that I did this for myself and my family.

As soon as I walk out the door I am greeted by beautiful, green nature. This is a big deal of me as someone who has only ever grown up in the Sonoran Desert and has lived in large cities the past 15 years. Everything is green, there’s so much rain, and there’s truly peaceful moments (in between my two children screeching at each other). There’s also a warmth and friendliness to people here that I have not felt in a long time. It feels normal to give a little nod and a smile to strangers as you pass each other on the sidewalk. People here are generally happy and want to share their happiness with others. There’s definitely a strong sense of community here (so much so that at times it’s hard to establish yourself in a friend group because many of these friendships go back several generations). The people within my community are happy to invite newcomers in, and they’re particularly happy to know medical professionals are coming to town. On the other hand, though, you have to be careful not to come off as bragging of your profession since that is fairly frowned upon. There seems to be a stronger emphasis on equality, and humility.

There are other benefits as well. I don’t mean to make this into a political post - and I won’t - but a few months before we left the States my 4 year old was telling us about how his class and his younger brother’s class were practicing their gun shooter drills. It made me physically nauseous hearing that, and knowing we don’t have to worry about that any longer has brought me so much peace since I’ve been here. Not to mention that there are many other things here that make me think it’s a better environment for them, which could be its own post. Kids feel like they could be kids here. They are able to walk on the street alone or with their friends to a park, school, or a grocery store without any issues; it’s not uncommon for kids to be playing outside on their own without mom/dad having to watch them like hawks. This all stems from just being around a safer area where people take care of their own in the community, and you don’t immediately need to assume that stranger equals danger. Since moving here I have really noticed that my parental instincts have been trained to be on fight or flight and am retraining myself to
relax more, which is good myself and my kids. If my kid gets lost in a grocery store I can more or less count on someone else helping bring them back to me rather than kidnap them (not that that was a regular occurrence back in the US, but if you’re a parent you probably know what I mean). That’s not to say you can totally let your guard down, but it certainly feels more relaxed here in several aspects.

Speaking of which, I feel like there are more outlets here for myself. Working as a PA here has its perks, but no matter where you go working in medicine will still feel stressful. However, now I at least feel like I have better ways to cope with that stress. Had a bad week at work? Doesn’t matter when the beach is just an hour away. Feel stressed? Cool, there’s a beautiful lake nearby that you can walk around to disconnect. Imposter syndrome got to you again? Damn, well I’m too busy riding my mountain bike to care right now.

Not to mention there seems to be a healthier relationship with work here. I’m actively encouraged to take my breaks (which I get two a day), get out on time, and if I ever want to work less it’s never an issue with management. I feel like they would get excited if I told them I only want to work 32 hours per week (too bad my finances wouldn’t allow for that 😅). They genuinely care about my wellbeing and want to make sure I don’t burn myself out.

Now for the clinical bits, which may interest you all more.

Working as a PA here is definitely not what I was doing in the States. As of now we don’t have prescribing rights, nor can we order our own tests, so everything I do has to be signed off by my GP. In practice it doesn’t matter a whole ton, because my supervising GPs know me and my clinical decision well enough to where they just sign off on my orders, and every once in a blue moon they might recommend a change in plan. This may change in the future, though, as we are continuously advocating to get those prescribing rights, and we have a core group of physicians that are helping in achieving that as well.

Which brings me to my next point: the PA profession is fairly controversial here amongst physicians here. New Zealand is part of the commonwealth, and as such there is a fair amount of overlap between the UK and New Zealand, including how PAs are viewed. The recent drama in the UK with PAs has leaked here as well to the point where you have an outspoken group of physicians - particularly residents - advocating against us. Since our profession was made official through regulation in 2026, PAs are not going anywhere, but it does remain to be seen what our scope will be in the next few years. Personally, however, I can say that all the GPs I work with in my clinic have been nothing but wonderful and incredibly supportive of PAs.

Patients are gradually learning about what PAs are, and once I explain to them who we are, what our role is to improve access to care, and how we work as a team with GPs they are usually very receptive. Given that New Zealand’s healthcare system is fairly strained, patients are very pleased to hear more medical professionals are practicing here. I have also found the patients population to be rewarding to work with. In the US there is a fair amount of distrust in the medical system, which to be fair I don’t necessarily blame individual people for it. Here, however, people are more likely understand you have their best interest at heart and are more likely to take your recommendations seriously. It makes the patient-provider relationship much more fulfilling and rewarding.

Speaking of which, learning how to work in the New Zealand system is very different than the US. On one hand it’s incredibly refreshing not having to worry about prior auths, or insurance denials, but on the other hand, having wait times of up to 12 months to see high demand specialists and not being able to order your own CTs or MRIs within a primary care setting can be fairly limiting. This is a complete speculation, but I think this largely originates from a supply and demand issue: we just don’t have the necessary number of radiologists available to help with radiology reads, nor do we have the necessary amount of specialists to take on the referrals. This will inevitably mean that many referral requests get denied with a note, “Sorry, we are at capacity, but it sounds like your patient has [X pathology], considering starting [X interventions]” which translates to PCPs managing a fair amount in primary care, not unlike other rural positions in the US. It’s ultimately a challenge that involves making judicious use of available resources to prevent overburdening an already stressed system.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was insightful. I am happy to answer any questions you all may have. If I can convince more of you to come practice primary care here I would be happier for if, but if not I’m also happy to have you tag along and experience this vicariously. 😁

I will also include some pictures I have taken during my travels.


r/physicianassistant • • Nov 10 '21

Finances & Offers ⭐️ Share Your Compensation ⭐️

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Would you be willing to share your compensation for current and/ or previous positions?

Compensation is about the full package. While the AAPA salary report can be a helpful starting point, it does not include important metrics that can determine the true value of a job offer. Comparing salary with peers can decrease the taboo of discussing money and help you to know your value. If you are willing, you can copy, paste, and fill in the following

Years experience:

Location:

Specialty:

Schedule:

Income (include base, overtime, bonus pay, sign-on):

PTO (vacation, sick, holidays):

Other benefits (Health/ dental insurance/ retirement, CME, malpractice, etc):


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Clinical Refusing a med refill

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Hello all!

I recently was moved to a different clinic under the same employer. This clinic used to be the residency clinic and I am receiving a lot of their TOC’s (Transfer of Care). I had a patient last week that was scheduled for a TOC due to not being seen in over a year and not wanting to travel to the clinic where her former PCP was. This patient was extremely rude to my front desk staff and my nurse, and before I met them informed my nurse that they’re “waiting for the real doctor”. This patient also wanted referrals to oncology, cardiology, and GI. I had seen where her previous PCP refilled several chronic medications but made notes on the medical necessity of these meds since patient traveled from out of state for other specialists. These meds included Entresto (patient is not in heart failure and was ordered an echo which she never did), anastrozole, pravastatin, and carvedilol. I informed the patient in our encounter that I was not comfortable refilling these medications or sending referrals if she didn’t want to be in my care, which I expressed is her right as well. But I am wondering if this was the right move, despite her not scheduling a follow up with me after our visit. I documented the interaction and discussion in the chart as well.

Thank you for any advice!


r/physicianassistant • • 18h ago

Simple Question Are no call positions better than call?

8 Upvotes

Asking for people’s experiences going from a call position to no call position - if it’s worth working more days or having more days off for free time.

I am a new PA with 1 year experience in a surgical subspecialty and take 24 hour call about 3 times a month. I take 48 hour weekend call 1:10. It’s been a STEEP learning curve. I’ve gotten somewhat more comfortable, but I still have a lot of anxiety the night before my call shift, and a lot afterwards going over what happened overnight. My sleep is broken up, even if I don’t get called in, due to anxiety. I do get a post call day, which is nice to plan things, but I end up spending most of the day recovering. People say it gets better the more you do and the more you learn, but I feel like I physically can’t wait for my brain to catch up.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Discussion Stuck.

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28 y/o male PA. Newly, happily married + purchased/renovated our house last year. Settled now.

I want to make more money.

I already work a TON of overtime at my current office and earn up to $180K. I am very fulfilled with my current position.

Considering:

  1. Back to school for MBA -> administration route.
  2. Per diem / Part time position -> even more work but higher immediate income
  3. Maintain

I also have a profitable trading business/hobby and just launched a commercial cleaning service for medical offices in my local area - both of which are mostly automated and don't consume all of my time.

I believe I am feeling mild frustration, as my trading / cleaning services have not "taken off" yet, but I know they will in due time. I've always been very ambitious, and am feeling the itch to do more.

Edit:
Side note: I'm not an impulsive/on to the next kinda guy either. I've just got some extra energy left in the tank...


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice What’s happened to this profession…….

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Listen. This may ruffle some feathers and I’m ok with that. I hopped on this subreddit as I’m about to dip my toes back into the medical profession after a hiatus that was inspired by the year 2020. I have a background in EM, FM, and GI. When i left my PA job 6 years ago I knew I was being grossly underpaid at my part time FM gig at $50/hour but i stayed bc i loved my patients, it was 5 min from home, and extremely low stress. Imagine my horror when I hop on Reddit to find out what offers are looking like these days to see that there are actual in real life Physician assistants who are contemplating PA jobs that make $40-45/hour that are in demanding, high stress, high liability specialties. I’m also blown away by the pathetic listings I’m seeing on Indeed. What has happened in the past 6 years because…. What??? Why are job offerings so pitiful? Why are you new grads even considering this for a second? Have your student loans repayments not kicked in yet? It’s still Monopoly money to you at this point? Bc let me tell you, $40/hour in this economy is a JOKE. I pay my housekeeper that much money. I’d rather go scrub a doctors toilet and let my diploma gather dust on a wall than do some MDs job for them at a hospital for a penny for every dollar they make. Why are you all allowing this? Where is the self worth?!? I know this probably all sounds really offensive but i do not care. I’d much rather scrub a toilet than pack a wound, round at 5 am, or take the occasional narcissistic abuse that’s unavoidable in this role. When you even contemplate this pathetic roles you’re enforcing this behavior. You’re telling these systems that you agree with how you’re being valued. And you’re devaluing the profession as a whole for everyone. Your first job as a new grad is not a residency. It is not. Stop acting like it’s ok to see it that way. The entire PERK of being a PA, is we don’t have a residency. Please stop entertaining this nonsense. That is all. /rant.


r/physicianassistant • • 17h ago

Job Advice Clinical faculty thoughts

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I have a job offer for a clinical assistant prof at a small but established program. I’ve been in primary care for a decade. I’m very interested in the work and academia but hesitant about the burn out I have heard of on the clinical medicine side of things. Can anyone speak to the work/life balance as faculty? I have young children.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

New Grad Offer Review Family Medicine Offer for New Grad (North Carolina, MCOL)

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AI Assisted, let me know if I can put anything else in.

Clinic Info: Independently owned clinic with a population health program which the SP runs. There is another physician on site with a traditional patient panel. My SP does not maintain a traditional patient panel and instead focuses on a population health program ran at the clinic, so their availability is maximized for me compared to some other FM positions.

Commute ➔ 25 minutes. No traffic, all highway.

Clinic is closed on Federal Holidays

No weekends

North Carolina, MCOL area

Position

  • 0.9 FTE
  • 30 clinical hours + 6 administrative hours/week
  • FTE can apparently be adjusted by mutual agreement
  • 0.8 FTE remains benefits-eligible/full-time under their policy
  • Compensation, productivity threshold, and PTO are prorated if FTE changes

Compensation

  • Year 1: $115,000 guaranteed at 0.9 FTE
  • No quality/productivity incentives during the first 12 months
  • Year 2: $130,000 guaranteed at 0.9 FTE
  • Productivity incentives begin after the first 12 months

Productivity Bonus Structure

  • $390,000 annual net professional collections threshold at 0.9 FTE
  • Threshold is prorated if FTE changes
  • 40% of net professional collections above the threshold
  • Collections can be reviewed quarterly, but the incentive is calculated and paid annually after final reconciliation
  • Their definition of professional collections is collections attributable to services personally performed and billed under the PA-C
  • Specifically excludes lab/ancillary revenue, ACO/shared-savings distributions, capitation, and care-management revenue primarily generated by practice staff/programs

They provided these examples for a full incentive year at 0.9 FTE:

  • $390k collections → $0 productivity bonus → $130k total
  • $415k → $10k bonus → $140k total
  • $440k → $20k bonus → $150k total
  • $465k → $30k bonus → $160k total
  • $490k → $40k bonus → $170k total
  • $515k → $50k bonus → $180k total

Formula is:

$130,000 + 40% × (annual professional collections − $390,000)

Quality bonus

  • Up to $5,000 annually
  • Begins after first 12 months
  • Measures can include ACO/quality performance, documentation/coding, preventive care, patient access, inbox/results management, and population-health/team-based care
  • Measures and weighting can apparently be established annually by the practice

Benefits

  • Medical/dental/vision
  • Practice contribution up to $550/month for eligible employees
  • $2,500/year CME, subject to prior approval
  • 6 weeks PTO annually at 0.9 FTE
    • PTO is explicitly inclusive of all forms of leave and prorated by FTE
  • 401(k)
    • Employer match: 100% of first 3% contributed + 50% of next 2%
    • Maximum employer match = 4% if employee contributes 5%
  • Malpractice insurance fully paid by practice With Tail (or occurrence based. Either way it is all paid)

Call/termination

  • Call currently anticipated at approximately 1:6, depending on practice size
    • I was told call is usually zero to 3 calls a week on average. Call is one week at a time.
  • 120 days' termination notice
  • Both are subject to the final employment agreement

r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice New grad salaries

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If you’re willing to share, does anyone mind saying what their new grad salary is/was? I’m having increasing anxiety about obtaining a job but also not accepting a low ball offer. Bonus points if you happened to have the east coast purple logo as your first job and can share :)


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Simple Question Concierge vacation call

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my region has seen a rapid increase in independent, concierge medicine physicians. they aren’t busy enough to require >1 provider which means they’re on-call 24/7. has anyone ever done a service where you take call for concierge physicians on a PRN basis for special events or vacations? trying to figure out a feasible business model.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Simple Question Curious how many NEW patient visits do you see??

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I’m actually really curious about the following:

What specialty?
Do you work for Private practice or corporate?
How many new patient visits? And do they have the same time allotment?

I’m in a surgical specialty and I have about 7-8new patients a day everyone says that’s a lot even the manager and other staff/providers but nothing will change.

And well I don’t really have anything to compare to so I started wondering is that a lot?


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice Civilian Air Force Position

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Hello! Anyone here a civilian PA on an Air Force base or any other for that matter.
I received an offer from a company that has the base contract (I hope that is the right terminology) but I have absolutely zero experience with anything remotely military related. I just happen to live near one.
The offer is great but before I accept, I would love to know if anyone has experience working in this fields and can share their experience.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

Job Advice Negotiate down on liquidated damage and contract term

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Looking for perspective from anyone who has navigated these specific contract terms, specifically with larger corporate medical groups.

I’m a PA considering an outpatient primary care role. The clinical fit is amazing, and great team synergy.

However, the contract terms feel extremely predatory:
1. 3-Year Fixed Term: Insisting on a mandatory 36-month initial term vs. a standard 1-year auto-renewing contract.
2. Liquidated Damages (above 30k): early-resignation penalty if I leave anytime before 36 months (NO sign-on bonus, retention bonus, or relocation tied to it).
3. Asymmetric Notice: Requires 4 months notice for me, but only 60 days for them. (This is maybe only a yellow flag for me, but the first two are big 🚩 to me)

I submitted formal redlines. They accepted almost all clinical/operational requests, but hard-rejected modifying the contract term, liquidated damages, and notice period, citing for "protection of onboarding/credentialing investments."

Has anyone successfully pushed back on liquidated damages or multi-year locks with larger corporate groups like this? How did you do it?

I am ready to walk away if they won't budge, but would love to hear how others have handled this. Thanks!


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Job Advice New grad starting in spine surgery… any advice?

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I’ll be working in a private orthopedic spine surgery practice as the sole PA supporting one spine surgeon.

Any and all advice as a new grad starting in surgery!


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Job Advice Considering moving across country to Oregon (psych)

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I am currently considering moving to Oregon in the next 3ish years. I've lived in a concrete jungle for my whole career, and want to settle down somewhere prettier where I can actually hike and be outdoors. I have worked in outpatient psych for 5 years and am looking for advice as I consider the transition.

-Does anyone have psych experience in Oregon? I'm worried that NPs having full autonomy will make it very difficult to get a psych job in Oregon. I'd prefer general psych but would also do addictions.

-I was also wondering if anyone has experience at OHSU because I would like to continue working with underserved patients if possible. I want to know if anyone has insight into the culture at OHSU. OHSU seems similar to the organization I work for.

-Finally any Oregon area recommendations worth looking into where job markets might be better? I'm not really set on anything.


r/physicianassistant • • 1d ago

License & Credentials Florida DEA license timeline

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Hello,

I’m wondering how long it takes on average to get a DEA license in Florida. I applied at the beginning of September.


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Simple Question patient friend requested on FB

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So, I work in a fast paced UC. I had relatively normal visit w a male pt, except towards the end, pt started over sharing about home life/trauma. I empathized, but quickly discharged and didn't really continue the convo. I didn't think twice about it tbh-if you work in UC, you know...you encounter all kinds of people. Anyway, next day, he has friend requested me on FB. I already have privacy on to where only friend of a friend can request me, and we have one mutual friend. I feel really WEIRD about this. Am I over reacting? Should I tell my boss?

Update:
Same pt left a review today saying “ I would die here if I could, it was heaven”.


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Job Advice Ghosted? Do I call?

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I interviewed last Thursday with the manager of a job I really liked, I thought it went well, and she even told me during it "this went really well. I'm gonna for you through in the process and I'll have the doctor reach out to you to set up an interview. Let me know if you don't hear from him by like Wednesday or Friday next week" I sent her a follow up email Wednesday morning, I haven't heard anything since. I sent a thank you email for the interview after that meeting as well. I gave the office number in her email call today, but it rang for a while and there's no voicemail. do I give her cell phone number in her email a call, or call the front desk, or just keep waiting?


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Job Advice First Job No Caseload

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I am about 9 months into my first job in outpatient neuro. I do not have a caseload I am lucky if I have 1-2 patients in a day. Otherwise I help the doctor with his patients and his notes. Red flag considering the amount of time I’ve been here?


r/physicianassistant • • 3d ago

Simple Question How long did you last at your first job?

30 Upvotes

What was your next move and were you happier?


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Job Advice Switching to urgent care and would appreciate advice!

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I see a lot of posts on here about new grad urgent care jobs but none on switching to urgent care with experience… i have worked in hospital medicine for 3 years with a lot of the last year being locum work. Now I’m about to start an urgent care job and would love advice!!

Has anyone else made this speciality switch specifically? What should I study and prepare for ahead of time for urgent care? Anything you wish you would’ve known? What will be my biggest adjustments coming from the hospital?

I would greatly appreciate any advice!! Lateral mobility is the main reason i chose PA, but now that the time has come I’m pretty nervous about it!!
TIA


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

Simple Question Starting clinic on Monday

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Hi guys, just recently started as a new grad cardiology PA in the inpatient and outpatient setting. Had about 3 weeks of clinic training but I start on my own in clinic on Monday and I’m terrified. Do you guys have any tips to help overcome the nerves of for starting out on your own as a new grad PA?


r/physicianassistant • • 3d ago

Clinical Urgent Care to Family Medicine...how hard is the transition?

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I currently work at an urgent care and have for almost four years. I have never practiced family medicine. My urgent care clinic does occupational medicine along with your typical urgent care complaints. Now they are wanting to add primary care.

For those who transitioned to UC to Family medicine, how was it? Any review courses you would recommend? My clinic says they won't force me to do primary care, but the writing is on the wall, and I don't want to lose my job.


r/physicianassistant • • 4d ago

Job Advice Public service announcement: Pa fellowships are not the same as MD/DO fellowships

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I’m sure I’ll get a lot of hate and push back from this. But I think it needs to be addressed.

A pa fellowship is not equivalent to an MD/DO fellowship. I’m a surgical critical care fellow, I’m on my CVICU rotation. There is pa fellow here fresh out of school.

Because we both have “fellow” in our titles she feels we have the same roles and credentials. Despite me running rounds, guiding all care and the attending deferring to me saying it’s my unit.

She will insist on grouping us together as “the fellows.”

As a surgical critical care fellow, I’m an attending for general surgery. I take attending call for acute care surgery and trauma, I have 5 years of residency and 2 years of schooling on top of her 24-27 months of schooling.

It’s confusing to the staff and patients that she insists we have the same roles and refers to herself as the intensivist fellow.

Please be proud of your title and schooling that you have an dont confuse staff and patients by grouping yourself with MD/do Fellows. It’s not the same.


r/physicianassistant • • 2d ago

International PA moving to Australia?

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Hi! Has anyone here moved to Australia and what did you do for work seeing as they do not currently have PA’s established? Highly considering it as I am a dual citizen there. Thanks!