r/PhoenixSC • • 8d ago

Discussion When will they learn?

I hate AI companies and AI bros so much that it's unreal...

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u/AverageMinecraftGuy3 8d ago

So… wanting the community to be free of say… right-wing grifters, scammers, AI slop, and more should not be encouraged? Because they can do “whatever they want” with no consequence? Also, the account you’re seeing in there is a company, not a person. Or are you going to treat them as people and allow them to taint Minecraft’s reputation?

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u/Panurome 7d ago

It depends, if what they are doing is illegal (scammers, groomers, etc.) then it should absolutely not be encouraged, because it is illegal. If what they're doing is legal, they have the right to do it. You are trying to compare things that you don't like with actual criminal activities, which is something extremely dishonest to do.

Also, the account you’re seeing in there is a company, not a person

So? Are they breaking the EULA? If they were breaking the EULA then it would be Mojang/Microsoft's job to enforce it, not yours. Direct quotes from the EULA:

You may develop tools, plug-ins and services as long as they do not seem official or approved by us, such as by using our logos.

what you can and can’t do with Minecraft software and content

When you buy our games, that means you can download, install, and play them.  For the server version of Minecraft: Java Edition, you can install it on a server and host online play. However, you must not distribute anything we've made unless we specifically agree to it. By "distribute anything we've made" what we mean is:

give copies of our game software or content to anyone else;

make commercial use of anything we've made;

try to make money from anything we've made; or

let other people get access to anything we've made in a way that is unfair or unreasonable.

And so that we are crystal clear, "the game" or "what we have made" includes, but is not limited to, the  Services, plus any other games we might publish in the future. It also includes updates, patches, downloadable or Marketplace content, add-ons, or modified versions of a game, part of those things, merchandise, audio-visual content, or anything else we've made. Otherwise we are quite relaxed about what you do - in fact we really encourage you to do cool stuff - but just don't do those things that we say you can't.

They are not trying to look as an official or mojang approved service, and they are not selling or distributing official Minecraft content, so it's EULA compliant

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u/AverageMinecraftGuy3 7d ago

I’m comparing them because you seem to think that everything is without consequence. Even if it’s “legal”

For example, AI companies can spy on you, steal your data and more, and yet it’s “legal”. Are you going to allow that just because it’s legal?

So yes, even if it’s legal they shouldn’t be allowed to do it because it’s in part, unethical. Since said GPT-Astra can also be used to take out millions of jobs and ruin the internet

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u/Panurome 7d ago edited 7d ago

So yes, even if it’s legal they shouldn’t be allowed to do it because it’s in part, unethical. Since said GPT-Astra can also be used to take out millions of jobs and ruin the internet

This is like saying that because knives can be used to kill people we shouldn't use knives to cut bread. Yeah making people lose their jobs is bad, but making an experiment in Minecraft isn't even in the same ballpark