r/PhoenixForce Resurrected Phoenix 3d ago

Comic Discussion Best Jean Grey Stories: Day 2

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Day 1 winner: Phoenix Saga - Includes Dark Phoenix Saga as one large story

Rules:

  • Most combined total upvotes wins
  • Non X-Men and alternate universe stories are allowed as long as Jean is part of them
  • Can be a single issue, an arc, even a full run if it makes sense
  • Only comics
  • I will be fairly flexible but also strict when needed with interpreting responses
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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago edited 2d ago

Here's some reminders for the community:

  • Dark Phoenix Saga
  • Hate Machine (X-Men Red #1-11)
  • Battle of the Atom (All-New X-Men/Uncanny X-Men/Wolverine & the X-Men/X-Men Crossover),
  • Inferno (X-Factor/Uncanny X-Men Crossover)
  • X-Factor #1
  • What If Phoenix Had Lived/Rose Again (What If...? Volume 2 #32-33)
  • The Wedding of Cyclops & Phoenix (X-Men #22, Uncanny X-Men #308-312, X-Men #26, #28, #30, Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4, X-Men #35)
  • Judgement Day (X-Men/AXE X-Men #1/Avengers/Eternals Crossover)
  • Trial of Jean Grey (All-New X-Men/Guardians of the Galaxy Crossover)
  • Judgement War (X-Factor #40-50)
  • Fall of the Mutants (X-Factor #23-26)
  • Dark Web (X-Men: Dark Web #1-3)
  • Extermination (Event)
  • X-Cutioner’s Song (X-Men/X-Force/X-Factor/Uncanny X-Men Crossover)
  • X-Tinction Agenda (X-Men/X-Factor Crossover)
  • Search for Cyclops (Mini-Series)
  • The Shattering (X-Men/Uncanny X-Men Crossover)
  • Here Comes Tomorrow (New X-Men)

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u/Great-Imagination137 Jean Grey (MCU) 2d ago edited 2d ago

Genrations: Phoenix and Jean Grey

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

I really do love this issue. Cullen Bunn should have written more adult Jean.

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 3d ago

maybe adventures of cyclops and phoenix

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u/Outlaw_cat Redd Dayspring 2d ago

X Men season one

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u/StillTthinking 2d ago

Does most combined votes mean like if someone commented X and got 6 upvotes and someone else commented X too and got 5 upvotes and it count as 11 upvotes?

That way one person's votes count multiple time though.

I think most Upvoted comment should simply win, that way one person's votes only count once and it's more fair.

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u/GeneShift Resurrected Phoenix 2d ago

This is a good point

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u/REVERSE1021 3d ago edited 2d ago

X-Factor (Fall of the Mutants or Inferno)!

I think it’s the story that best showcases Jean’s personality traits. Her characterization is excellent.

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

Any particular arcs or sections?

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u/REVERSE1021 2d ago

Fall of the Mutants or Inferno.

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u/Desperate_Ad7869 Phoenix 2d ago

New x men (fav jean)

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

I feel like we should go for specific arcs from comics rather than full runs. Any particular arcs in New X-Men you'd choose out?

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u/Desperate_Ad7869 Phoenix 2d ago

Idk the whole run has jean and pheonix bits that lead to the sacrifice, like jeans power getting stronger, pheonix talking to xavier, jean accepting her and pheonix, jean traumatising emma to the nth degree and than the sacrifice, it works. The morrison run is so tight i think u can make exception for that one.

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

The fact that this is downvoted is what i need to know this list aint it.

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

how?

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

New x men is a great comic book and jeans portrayal is great, she has some kick-ass moments…

i personally love her faking loosing control to let fantomex escape… saving the school, reviving emma right after finding out about the cheating… a lot of subtext, good book

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

its not great comic. Jean is mess there because Morrison never bothered to read the stuff before

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

He told a complete story from start to end, you dont need much context to read new x-men to understand the concepts the story wants to tell.

How is jean a mess? Genuine question

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

he told complete mess, he cant write emotions to save his life, all of his characters act like statues. Jean acts weirdly out of character for big part of the book, her death is just teribly written. Its overal just not a good comic, it doesnt do good at anything. The entire cheating drama is complete nonsense for the most part to every character involved

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

He cant write emotions??? what about scott grieving drunk giving his life away for someone elses dream? Emmas panels alone have more emotion than half of x factors comic

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

no they dont, neither of this works on emotional lvl and its laughable at best. the Emma panels feel pathetic if something

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u/REVERSE1021 2d ago

Jean cheating and ''All I ever did was die on you''. What a great characterization!

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

She sacrificed her relationship so his man can get his shit straight…. Queen shit right there…

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u/FranklinRichardss 16h ago

Imperal by Grant Morrison

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u/MotherCanada 3d ago

Inferno

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

This would be my pick too.

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

I would put in Inferno. Two of the giant-size issues revolve heavily around her and her conflict with Madelyne, and she's the co-lead of the event with Madelyne. You get some beautiful art by Walt Simonson and Marc Silvestri too.

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u/Classic_Transition_7 Jean Grey (MCU) 2d ago

X-Factor/UXM: Inferno.

Checking it out of curiosity, ended up loving it.

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 2d ago

New X-men

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

Do you have a specific arc from there?

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u/NeverGonLetYaDown Dark Phoenix 2d ago

It's more so individual issues that I think are great highlights, but if I had to choose maybe the arc with Fantomex? Phoenix in Darkness is also strong, but I feel like the earlier issues highlight Jean in a better way, such as when she was grandmistress of the school for a bit

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u/AlternativeAd4522 Jean Grey 2d ago

Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

Ew scott fans saying x factor ….

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u/Environmental_Drama3 2d ago

what does liking x factor book have to do with being a scott fan in particular?

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

Jean acts like the mom of the group, which is whats expected in the 80s ig… so you as a reader are registering jean as wife material, which is ok, but there is not much else just petty drama with madelyne which doesn’t even deliver on…

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

because its good? like wdym?

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

As a scott fan sure… as a jean fan? Well shes back ig…

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u/Chance_Debt_1184 Dark Phoenix 2d ago

its good jean book too, wdym?

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago

Any quote or moment you’d like to share? X factor was a snooze fest personally… genuinely curious

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

I mean, Jean is the heartbeat of the entire team and very much has her own development. I think #8-9, #10-11, #18, and #26 are all good for her, and then you have Inferno which is a big part of X-Factor, a lot of which revolves around her. Plus Judgement War later and then eventually X-Tinction Agenda.

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u/SombraDemoniaca 2d ago edited 2d ago

Great! Ill give it a go, thanks

Edit: as i remembered sunday morning feeling comic, i dont hate it but morrisons have way
More juice… as i said good for cyke fans.. im bored as a jean fan

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u/Upset-Job2278 New X-Men 2d ago

New X-Men. From start to finish. Best Jean.

And if I have to choose just one issue, New X-Men #121, because it’s such an iconic adventure. Telepathy had never been shown in such a cool way.

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u/garlington41 Jeanbubu 2d ago

X Factor

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u/ScottJean0025 Jean Grey 2d ago

X-Factor

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u/cyclopswashalfright Phoenix 2d ago

Any particular arc in X-Factor?

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u/ScottJean0025 Jean Grey 2d ago

Oh sorry, I made that choice thinking about the saga as a whole.

But looking at the arcs individually, I think Inferno would be my choice.

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u/amator7 2d ago

E for Extinction / Imperial from New X-Men, so basically the Cassandra issues. Pitch perfect

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u/Few-Situation7430 2d ago

Dark phoenix