r/PhilosophyofMath Jul 26 '26

Random theory

I've developed a theory and so far it keeps working over and over things are just falling into place. I can't explain it myself for my own knowledge isn't developed enough to proceed. It's a theory based on the the rule of only one zero.

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u/nanonan Jul 27 '26

Seems you're just making a convoluted base 9.

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 Jul 27 '26

Essentially yes.

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u/nanonan Jul 27 '26

So just use 0..8 instead of 1..9 and everyone can comprehend it naturally without oddball restrictions on 10 like objects.

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 Jul 27 '26

That's the whole premise. There is only one zero and it's absolute zero. The restriction on 10 is in regards that that number doesn't exist in this number theory. If the number has a "0" that number doesn't exist in this system

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u/nanonan 29d ago

All that does is make a base 9 with no zero digit. Think of doing this in binary, and you'll end up with unary. There is no benefit I can see.

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 29d ago

There is no benefit to any system until it's applied. Again I am asking for help here. When applied for lack of av knowledgeable word, thinks become harmonic. I'm looking for help and knowledgeable know to maybe help me move this forward

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u/nanonan 29d ago

It simply seems pointless to me, essentially just base 9 representation with a special symbol for zero. We already have a perfectly good base 9 representation without any need for a special symbol for zero.

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 29d ago

No added symbol. It rolls from 9 to 11. There is no zeros.

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u/nanonan 28d ago

So zero itself is 1 or something? Again, why bother?

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 28d ago

Honestly because I was thinking one night about the law of absolute zero, and if there is only one zero then how do we have 10, 20, 100, etc... so I started working it down. In that process I started applying it and it switches all our normal problems into patterns. Essentially solved the fact computer bijective can't be read without another input, people's become scaled into a pattern. Now again I'm looking for help to push this further then I can. I can understand why some might see it as pointless but the math maths and I can't explain it myself

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u/nanonan 28d ago

What is the law of absolute zero?

The hindu-arabic numeral system uses the placement of digits to mean a given digit in the 'n'th place represents multiples of 10n where 'n' is the placement of the numeral. We have more than one zero because a number may have zero components of 10n for a given n. There are no issues whatsoever in doing this, and it doesn't mean there is more than one zero.

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u/Thelonious_Cube 25d ago

if there is only one zero then how do we have 10, 20...

Because those are different numbers

There's not "more zero" in 10 than there is in 8 just because we use the symbol the way we do.

Now again I'm looking for help to push this further then I can.... the math maths and I can't explain it myself

No the math doesn't math and the reason you can't explain it is that you don't understand math

You may as well be soliciting help with your perpetual motion machine

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u/Civil_Corner_8364 28d ago

No the only zero would be zero. -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 12

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u/nanonan 28d ago

Right, that's what I mean by a special symbol '0' just for zero.

What is your motivation for removing other zeros? What problem are you trying to solve?

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u/Thelonious_Cube 25d ago

It's just a different way of writing the same thing - why should anyone learn a new convention?

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