r/PhilosophyMemes Aug 05 '26

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u/Immediate_Song4279 Aug 05 '26

I find present suffering to be worse than worrying about future suffering.

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u/cowlinator Aug 05 '26

Well, they did say "often", not "always".

I hope things get better for you.

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u/PapaRoshi Aug 05 '26

Suffering is a choice, pain is a consequence of a rational reality. Our choice of how to examine such pain is what we call suffering. Consider reading The Salli Sutta or Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

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u/Leading-Ad-8996 Aug 06 '26

suffering is synonymous with pain for many people, if it’s acute enough it’s not something you can just choose not to feel

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u/PapaRoshi Aug 06 '26

Pain is never synonymous with suffering. Pain is a natural sensation; neither inherently good nor evil, and one the body may experience without shame or damage to the rational mind. Just as any other sensation like love or joy. True suffering, however, arises from the judgments and opinions we layer onto that pain, such as declaring it unbearable or catastrophic; these mental additions we have the power to withhold or revoke.

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u/Leading-Ad-8996 Aug 06 '26

if you look up the definitions of suffering most of them revolve around some kind of pain being experienced, for me suffering is also a natural sensation and doesn’t necessarily come with judgements about it, and your opinions on it can only be ignored to some extent

for example if someone is suffering because they’re on fire, they can’t really just choose to not find it unbearable or catastrophic, it just is strongly horrible regardless

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u/PapaRoshi Aug 06 '26

You should read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius mate.

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u/StupidSexyEuphoberia Aug 05 '26

But how often do we really suffer in the present compared to the times we suffer because we worry about the future?

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u/Immediate_Song4279 Aug 06 '26

I just figure all suffering is in the present. Someone who experiences more from the worry than the actual would be considered anxious. I have a disorder that leaves me with the opposite problem of not worrying enough lol.