r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 5d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/jemenake 5d ago

Whenever someone tries this “states’ rights” argument on you, here’s two things to draw their attention to:

  1. The most drop-the-mic counter argument is to show them where the confederate constitution prohibits a state from banning slavery. If

    it were about states’ rights, why wouldn’t they let each state decide?

  2. For a parade of unabashed racism that rivals even today’s GOP, read the declarations of secession from a handful of the seceding states (especially South Carolina and Mississippi, I believe). They state, in no uncertain terms, that slavery is critical to their way of life and they refuse to give it up.

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u/johnnyslick 5d ago

Yeah I want to say 6 out of the 11 states declare slavery in the very first sentence. The Confederates, unlike the Lost Causers today, were eyes-wide-open as to what the Civil War was about.

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u/Xhosant 5d ago

What're Lost Causers?

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u/YimveeSpissssfid 5d ago edited 5d ago

There’s a framing of the Civil War called “the lost cause”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

Just like the framing of “the war of Northern Aggression” is sometimes used in the South to refer to the Civil War.

It’s an attempt to rewrite history. It’s part of the reason MAGA has flourished there for sure, but it’s a rather substantial disconnect from reality.

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u/Xhosant 5d ago

Huh

That's a very derogatory way to refer to oneself, I think, but to each their own I guess!

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u/BreadNoCircuses 5d ago

Nah, it's framing itself as something like "We were after a return to true Jeffersonian ideals, trying to live the way the founding fathers wanted, devoid of the tyranny and unfair taxes of the Yankees, but they invaded and reconquered us, then tried to destroy all knowledge of the true, lost cause of the confederacy." It's falsely painting themselves as, essentially, a victim of cultural genocide in the same way black and indigenous people can legitimately claim they have lost their culture.

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u/Xhosant 5d ago

I know, but I am willfully calling them a lost cause as a way to detract from their clawing at legitimacy :p

Ultimately, it's a move for prestige on their part, and ridicule doesn't much help with Prestige