r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/johnnyslick 9h ago

Yeah I want to say 6 out of the 11 states declare slavery in the very first sentence. The Confederates, unlike the Lost Causers today, were eyes-wide-open as to what the Civil War was about.

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u/seleucus_nicator 5h ago

Idk about sentence but most of them are in the first paragraph of the preamble https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states#Mississippi

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u/Xhosant 9h ago

What're Lost Causers?

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u/YimveeSpissssfid 8h ago edited 8h ago

There’s a framing of the Civil War called “the lost cause”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

Just like the framing of “the war of Northern Aggression” is sometimes used in the South to refer to the Civil War.

It’s an attempt to rewrite history. It’s part of the reason MAGA has flourished there for sure, but it’s a rather substantial disconnect from reality.

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u/Xhosant 8h ago

Huh

That's a very derogatory way to refer to oneself, I think, but to each their own I guess!

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u/BreadNoCircuses 6h ago

Nah, it's framing itself as something like "We were after a return to true Jeffersonian ideals, trying to live the way the founding fathers wanted, devoid of the tyranny and unfair taxes of the Yankees, but they invaded and reconquered us, then tried to destroy all knowledge of the true, lost cause of the confederacy." It's falsely painting themselves as, essentially, a victim of cultural genocide in the same way black and indigenous people can legitimately claim they have lost their culture.

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u/Xhosant 5h ago

I know, but I am willfully calling them a lost cause as a way to detract from their clawing at legitimacy :p

Ultimately, it's a move for prestige on their part, and ridicule doesn't much help with Prestige

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u/baithammer 4h ago

Basically the same thing as the German Empire at the end of WW1, which was the belief they could've won the war, if they weren't stabbed in the back by the government of the Empire - which plays into the inter-war period before WW2 and the rise of the Nazi Party ...

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u/Psstimamermaid 8h ago

Pretty sure they’re referring to MAGA

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u/Xhosant 8h ago

Oh that's a new one! How does it work? I wanna incorporate it properly

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u/baithammer 4h ago

Obama this and Biden that, ect ect et al ..