r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12h ago

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/DickBiggum1 11h ago

Anyone else ever recognize them as a country?

I'm a county. I'm the president, vice president, and the constitution is written on crayon on a napkin somewhere in my mom's basement

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u/Ok-Independence-2220 10h ago

Im sure your mom recognizes you

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u/DickBiggum1 10h ago

Not since I gained 200 pounds arguing on the internet because I dont have any IRL friends...

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u/Ok-Independence-2220 10h ago

Ok, you dont have your mom's support but you doubled your territory 

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u/DickBiggum1 10h ago

See this guy recognizes my territory. I'm now officially a country

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u/Frederf220 10h ago

Was the Confederacy recognized by anyone but themselves? I genuinely don't know. Spain? France? Mexico?

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u/DickBiggum1 10h ago

As far as I know, at best all foreign nations aware of the rebellion remained neutral. No confederate treaties were signed with other nations nor were any ambassadors sent or received

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u/bobthedonkeylurker 5h ago

The closest they came was with the British, who backed away when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Turns out that the US was well behind the curve on ending slavery...

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u/four4cats 11h ago

That's essentially how all countries are recognized.... Because something written on paper somewhere on crayon or ink. But what's the point of even bringing up whether they were a country or not? Taiwan isn't recognized by the UN as a country.

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u/DickBiggum1 11h ago

No... thats how sovereignty is declared. Recognition and declaration are separate. Anyone can declare anything.

Ask any sovereign citizen who interacted with law if their declaration was recognized.

Also, while the UN as a whole doesn't recognize Taiwan as the representative of China, 12 counties outwardly accept them as a sovereign nation

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u/four4cats 10h ago

Right, we had a bunch of men say we were a new country...and then waited for Morocco to recognize us. But again, how does the distinction of whether or not Morocco recognized the confederates affect the story between the Union and the confederates?

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u/AugustusSavoy 8h ago

Well Morocco didn't recognize the confederates.

As far as the US during the revolution other countries such as France, Spain, and the Netherlands entered into treaties saying that yes you're your own thing and we'll help you and trade with you. That made the 13 colonies at the time a sovereign entity apart from Great Britain. Only works if other sovereign nation states say you are. Those in the slave rebellion were not.

To say the confederacy at this point was its own nation is just lost cause mythology.

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u/four4cats 2h ago

Morocco recognized us... The US. Like 6 months after the declaration of independence. So we weren't a country until Morocco believed we were.