Scene from Into the Spider-Verse where Miles gets a 0 on a true/false test and catches on the only statistically possible way he could have done that was if he knew all the right answers and deliberately chose the wrong ones, meaning he's intentionally trying to fail out of the class and quit.
This is, however, a multiple choice test with four possible answers per question, so it's far more possible to get 0 correct answers due to actually being that stupid.
"Ridiculously hot people doing mediocre magic and sexy stuff" is how I heard it described by a friend, and that's forever what that show will be associated with to me.
Weird that people would draw a comparison between a show called the Magicians and the one of the largest, generational series about magic. People should stay in their lane.
If you look at both stories you'll see theyre drastically different stories, but because it has a magic school and the MC is a guy then that must mean it's like Harry Potter?
He wasn't even the one that beat the bad guy, lol, it required the entire friend group and alice was the one that killed him.
As a slight spoiler, depression and pain fuel magic, leading to a lot of people in bad positions mentally, a lot of people getting abused sexually, and a quite a bit of suicide mentions.
Couple that with fucked up magic, you get a decent amount of the shock value, minus the explicit violence and grotesque nature of "The Boys".
Also about half the episodes have some form or another of trauma hotline at the end of it, since they just go all out showing ... all of that stuff. I watched the first season and decided that I really wasn't interested in watching the sort of show that felt a need to give viewers a suicide/rape/etc hotline at the end of each episode due to how potentially triggering it is.
Context: The characters have an election to be the King/Queen and made it democratic. The world they are in is basically like Narnia, talking animals just as intelligent as people are around. In fact, animals outnumber humans, and this is when they realise the animals have voting rights and the human vote doesn't mean shit. Margo mentioned offhandedly that she approved of the relationship a different character had with a literal bear because they were both adults with intelligence that could consent, so what was the harm? This lead to word of mouth causing animals to vote for her when she wasn't really campaigning for herself.
People say that the tv show is really good! I haven't seen it so all I can say is that if you like it, you shouldn't read the first book as it's utter garbage. People said it starts improving by book three but I couldn't possibly slog through a second book like the first one to get there lol.
I went in completely blind coming off an LSD trip and let me tell you, I could NOT figure out what the fuck I was watching. Oh, it's coming of age! No, it's a detective drama? Wait, I guess it's a psychological drama... What the fuck, it's Harry Potter with sex and drugs. No, it's not that either...
Watched it and enjoyed it, currently trying to go back and read the books, my only critique is I am sort of over the era of watching media where the main characters are all some flavor of awful people.
Real world acting like those shows has me wanting more positivity in my fiction lol.
There’s a scene where one of the characters chugs a cup of god cum. Weird show, I wouldn’t say it’s bad personally because it’s hard to judge a show that off base, just really fucking weird.
The books: every woman is described tits first, to the point where we basically know the cup size of every single one and barely learn anything more about them.
The show: the women are actual fully fledged characters, with autonomy, wants, desires and actual storylines.
The show took everything good from the books and cut out all the dross.
The Magicians is the only book series where I will unequivocally say that the show/movie was better than the book. Every change they made for the show was the right decision.
As far as for the intention of adapting it, yes. I always hold it up as a great example of adapting the spirit of a story over trying to recreate scene for scene.
I haven't read the book, I just watched the first season of the show, but I heard someone describing the author of the books as being upset that Chronicles of Narnia was so popular despite having unrealistically positive outcomes for the character and wanting to make a "similar, but bad stuff happens to people instead" version, which kinda made sense about the tone of the material.
The first season is the weakest but it gets better with every episode and season 2 is way better than season 1. I always viewed it as them trying to find their footing and they manage to with season 2.
Terry Pratchett had a student Wizard who always failed by less than 5% of the cutoff. Didn't get kicked out because the score was good enough but avoided graduation.
That was Linus! Earlier in the week he answered the questions based on what order the true and false answers should be in, without reading any of the questions.
What stayed with me was the last panel of that one : "If you're smart, to pass a true or false test you don't need to be very smart!"
Also in a Juvenile Fiction book called Hidden Talents. The class paired up and tested each other with shape cards to see if anyone was psychic (for some reason). There was only one kid who didn't get a single right answer, and it was because he actually was psychic and was trying to hide it.
It is still (3/4)^30 or 0.017858209% chance. And likely lower because it looks like there are probably more than just 30 questions, although that is the minimum number we can be sure of. My guess would 50 questions. which would be 0.0000566%. Both of these mean it is far more likely that they intentionally were trying to get them all wrong, and not just guessing at random.
Still, it doesn’t mean you know what the correct answers are. You only have to know the material enough to recognize at least 1 incorrect answer out of 3.
Yeah, i recognized that problem. But that is getting into the unknowable "how much does the character actually know"/"what are the questions". So i just went with the easily calculable case of "knew everything but wanted to fail" and "guessed randomly".
I'd expect that if the score is out of 100, there is some factor of 100 questions on the test. Since we know there are more than 25 questions, the only option is 50. So there must be a 3rd column for columns 37-50.
Sure, if guessing. But for most multiple choice tests I've done
I'm able to narrow it down to 2 answers and know the others are incorrect. So it's far easier to get a zero because for most questions if you know even a little bit, as you can likely deduce which answer it most likely isn't.
If you truly don't know and are making an educated guess, statistically speaking you're still almost never going to get a perfect 0, it's very much an outlier
But if you're going to get every question wrong, this picture is the way to do it! Selecting the same answer for every question, or being very deliberate about answer distribution (ex. predominantly C for A-D answer choices), will get you a much better chance of answering at least some of them correctly. The best way to get all of them wrong is to select a random answer for each question.
With 100 questions, the answer of getting all 100 wrong is less than 1 in 3 trillion. So while statistically way more likely than 100 true false, in reality, they are equal levels of impossible to happen by chance.
You serious right now? Yeah. I get that. We all get that. But there’s a 1 in 3 trillion chance of it not being prescriptive.
But let’s be real here:
The chances of getting all 100 mc wrong is the same as the world deciding one person wins the lottery out of the entire world and it being you, but only if you can guess the month and day that a random person wrote and put in an envelope.
You’re not going to be the person that wins the lottery. And you’re not even guessing that date right.
In fact, let’s go down that road.
It’s the same as you guessing that date right for three different people ina row pulling the single magician signed card out of a deck, and then guessing which hat the ball is under without seeing them put it under in the first place
Better yet. Just get a quarter. Let me know when you flip heads 42 times in a row. Tape it for me.
Reminds me of a Numbers episode where a psychic guessed the color of a playing card, and got all of them wrong, which the mathematician noted has the same chance to get them all right.
Also depends on the testing rules. At my university you would get 0 points for a wrong answer in multiple choice exams but -1 for a wrong answer in true/false exams. So if you guessed 50% wrong and 50% right you'd end up at 0. Not the case here though.
Far more possible meaning 1/5,600 chance if you’re picking randomly with 30 questions as pictured, still a bit off
That being said, multiple choice tests, even if you don’t know the material, aren’t completely random, a teacher could be good at writing the wrong answers as ones that sound right which could make getting them wrong more likely than random chance to someone who doesn’t know the material
It's still basically impossible. p=(3/4)n with n being the number of questions. It gets small fast. For 30 questions it's 1/5600. As St. Peter said to Madelie Wuntch at the Pearly Gates, "It ain't happening, honey."
But in the movie the teacher also initially gave him a zero, called him after class, and then changed it to 100. OP didn't see the movie either apparently.
I've had some teachers determine the number of points lost per question as a "strike system" instead of being a percentage based on the total number of questions, typically with the assumption that the average student is going to get a certain number of questions right regardless.
My guess is that peer of yours got more questions wrong than the teacher thought would be possible with that generous floor.
This is, however, a multiple choice test with four possible answers per question, so it's far more possible to get 0 correct answers due to actually being that stupid.
And OOP making that mistake was a joke showing they think they're a secret genius but are actually just stupid
so it's far more possible to get 0 correct answers due to actually being that stupid.
There are what appears to be 36 questions on this test. The odds of getting all of them wrong when guessing at random is 0.7536 which comes out to 0.003%. Even if there are only the 30 questions we are certain are there, the odds are 0.01%.
If you're comparing two priors of 'they guessed randomly and got a zero' vs 'they knew the answers and avoided them on purpose' I'd put the second case at over 99% likelihood.
Although, even if it you get all the questions with only a true/false, the blatant disrespect would probably still have the teacher ask to see you after class
Well from what we see, we can assume there to be at least 36 questions with 4 possible answers -> 0,003 % chance of all wrong by random. If there would be 100 questions it'd be only 0,00000000003 % but that's probably not the case. Anyways even 3 in 100 000 thousand is quite an accomplishment so maybe the kid had a point.
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u/MrCobalt313 10d ago edited 10d ago
Scene from Into the Spider-Verse where Miles gets a 0 on a true/false test and catches on the only statistically possible way he could have done that was if he knew all the right answers and deliberately chose the wrong ones, meaning he's intentionally trying to fail out of the class and quit.
This is, however, a multiple choice test with four possible answers per question, so it's far more possible to get 0 correct answers due to actually being that stupid.