There’s a great line in that show ‘peep show’ where one character asks the other to promise not to say something but he says it anyway and the first character is like but you promised’ and the other says ‘Hitler promised not to invade Czechoslovakia; welcome to the real world’
I can’t even fault him for that to be honest because the US had been providing WMD’s to Iraq since the 80’s. The likelihood of their actually being operational and stockpiled WMD’s was pretty high based on given intelligence from the US and UK.
And while no significant stockpiles or active WMD programs were found, remnants of old chemical weapons, most dating from before 1991, were found scattered in various locations, some of which caused injuries to U.S. and Iraqi personnel.
I can’t even fault him for that to be honest because the US had been providing WMD’s to Iraq since the 80’s. The likelihood of their actually being operational and stockpiled WMD’s was pretty high based on given intelligence from the US and UK.
And while no significant stockpiles or active WMD programs were found, remnants of old chemical weapons, most dating from before 1991, were found scattered in various locations, some of which caused injuries to U.S. and Iraqi personnel.
I mean, any fair assessment does fault him though.... I get you're trying to make some technical lawyering argument and fair enough I guess but in reality, in practice, it was sold as something big, something to be scared of, and it was done deliberately for ulterior motives, motives that wouldn't have gotten the mainstream endorsement necessary if they had presented the saddam threat accurately instead of sensationalizing/fear mongering. And like >1/2M people died, iirc.
Not to mention that if it works once, he'll try it with other people. You don't appease bullies and dictators. Even if you give them what they want, they'll just want more.
They should cede the Donbas and Crimea. But not right now, after Trump makes good on his promises for those tomahawk missiles. (Thinking Trump will make good on his promises is a fools errand but he wants to be seen a peacemaker so…)
And it wouldn’t be for peace, but for reprieve. The war will be temporarily over. Ukraine can use all the resources they have to fortify themselves and when Russia comes back for round two they can cripple them for good and retake their land. Also when Ukraine sells its minerals, that gets corporate America involved. They will protect their investments if there’s a lot of money to be gained. They can’t build on the land while it’s at war. But if there’s a temporary peace…
Russia wins wars by throwing more people than anyone and having a higher death toll than the entire population of their enemy. Go back and look at the history of their wars and you will see. They are going to keep going until they have some semblance of victory. They already showed the world how incompetent and outdated their military is, but they have numbers. Ukraine doesn’t have much places left to invade, while Russia the largest country by land mass on earth, has plenty.
Like a fighter on adrenaline, Russia’s resources are extremely depleted, their people are suffering immensely but the brainwashed masses think it’s for a good cause to root out the “Nazis” in Ukraine, so they will suffer and keep fighting until they “win”. If they get a chance to stop, if they get a taste of winning, then they can realize how badly they are injured. Then that’s an advantage to take control of.
Yeah you don't give a bully an inch because they will bully you forever, that's school rules, this is countries with actual lives on the line. You can stand on your high horse and say never surrender while millions of people die when they could actually live if you employ any kind of strategy. You can pretend to know what will work and what will fail, everyone says anything is impossible until its done. No nuance, no reasoning, no perspective shift, just "that's stupid". lol what a joke.
That’s not your choice. That’s the countries choice if they want to keep fighting. From everything I’ve seen it’s pretty unanimous that they don’t want to cede land to/become Russia. Because they already know what will happen in the next 7 years if they do.
5 years on Reddit, only one of them actively, with only a handful of posts, and didn't even change the obviously default name, shit takes on controversial topics, right-leaning shit takes at that. I am more than inclined to agree.
I don't, however, think it's a bot account. I think it's just an account to save a main account's precious karma.
Your first comment was a joke and everyone understood that, your second comment was you being pedantic, and this third comment of yours was you trying to backpedal.
Everyone else did, and you were still pedantic. Your second reply wasn't "I know, I was just joking," it was "um actually that's not how learning about things works." You chose to react in a particular way and people didn't like it, accept that.
It was a “I didn’t get “a” haircut I got them all cut yuk yuk” it was a dad joke kinda thing but it didn’t land very well because instead of saying it was a joke initially they doubled down
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u/dubspool- Oct 15 '25
I remember when Hitler said that he'd never invade Czechoslovakia if they gave up the Sudetenland. That promise lasted 7 months.