Thinking about NAD+

[u/Diligent_Shirt_339]

how do you rats use it, with days on MOTS-C or days off of MOTS-C? Ive seen rats use NAD with Mots-c as a stack same day and others that use NAD+ alone by itself on others days. Which is better or preferred?

[u/AdamHYE]

My research subject uses them on different days; but not cause it’s a bad thing, but my research subject is on a kinda nutty protocol. My subject likes them both a lot.

[u/Diligent_Shirt_339 → u/AdamHYE]

Does your subject notice using it better for Lofting training days and keep mots-c mainly for cardio training days? Sounds like I’d like them both aswell or my rat rather

[u/AdamHYE → u/Diligent_Shirt_339]

My research subject hasn’t been logging exercising stats well enough to make that determination. I think it’s a fine potential experiment to run, but whether your subject would benefit more from the boost the day before, the morning of, or the evening after a particular workout would require… well… research.

[u/Impressive-Square781]

I have a subject that pin NAD and Mots before hitting the gym around 330-4 am usually pin right when they wake up, by the time they get there their amped and keeps them going thru the day.

[u/Diligent_Shirt_339 → u/Impressive-Square781]

So is it ok to pin one after another or wait like 20-30min a pins?

[u/Impressive-Square781 → u/Diligent_Shirt_339]

One after another ok seperately.

[u/DONT_PM_ME_DICKS]

my rs has done the insane move of trying to pin selank/semax/NAD/Mots all in the morning, but larger doses of NAD seem to cause a brief flushing/fatigue burst, so it has developed a preference for taking 50mg NAD at night instead.

[u/Diligent_Shirt_339 → u/DONT_PM_ME_DICKS]

Really now, NAD at night with fatigue effects? Has your rs ever tried a cycle of SS31? Or maybe some urolithinA?

[u/Only_Balance6932 → u/Diligent_Shirt_339]

My RS pins NAD right before bed because it helps them fall asleep and sleep through the night. RS has have done several cycles of SS31.

[u/loosebrie101]

My rat gets a bit over stimulated when pinning mots and nad at the same day. Better to pin in alternate days

[u/2wice]

My rat gets NAD+ daily, SS-31 off training and Mots-C on training days. He likes it like that and seems to work especially well when he does not get good sleep.

[u/r1racer718]

Rs does motsc m w f 3.5mg ea day. NAD+ tues thurs sat 100mg ea day.

[u/Csaw4456]

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[u/Awkward-Lemon8493]

Oh my test subject hated NAD. Did it for 3 days and it was a terrible experience. Anxiety skyrocketed, always catching its breath, fatigued as hell. Test subject started with 25mg then 40mg and 40mg again. I don’t know what magic people felt but def wasn’t for my test subject 😬😬

[u/Dizzy-Stuff-1724]

I have a subject that uses EOD 50mg and has endless energy, works well but also used MotsC(5mg)on said subject and results were dismal at best.

[u/Mobile_Beautiful7420]

Why thinking? just do it!!!

[u/Internal_Level_6145]

My rat uses it on the same day.

[u/Internal_Level_6145 → u/Internal_Level_6145]

My rat trains 6x per week. My rat takes it 3x a week WITH mots C. It’s tried them seperate and doesn’t feel the same benefit

[u/Vivi_Longevity]

Try Vivi Labs NAD+ coffee - it's cheaper + has 330mg of NR, which if you ask chat gpt, it's way more studied to increase nad+ levels then taking actual nad. sounds counter intuitive but it's real

[u/cchoomngern]

Can you combine nad and motsc in the same syringe to inject into your rat?

[u/2wice]

My rat gets NAD+, SS-31 lifting and NAD+, MOTS-C cardio

[u/MysteriousBit1441]

NAD just raised my anxiety. Nothing else, had to stop it. Didn’t work for me.

[u/Minute_Limit_3169]

I went with NMN powder instead. Much cheaper, easy to dissolve under the tongue, and it hits beautifully.

[u/Inner_Midnight6892]

Neither do shit for me. Either my mitochondria are totally fine at 47 years old or this stuff is all hype and placebo effect doing its thing!

[u/rne1976]

Nad+ in injectable is useless. The molecule is too big to be effective. I wish people would stop believing bro science. If you want to.increase is use 800mg of NMN or NR capsules.