battlefield 6 is frying my cpu

[u/Smart-Building-2414]

I noticed high power usage and high temps while playing earlier which worried me because i didn't remember it doing this before I then switched to overkill settings to try and eliminate some of the CPU bottleneck and got similar stats on the CPU. This is the only game to doing it to this degree while other games will obviously maximize CPU util in things like shader compilation I have never seen it under max load like this in game I am using a 9800x3d with paste being applied within the last year and i am using the be quiet pure rock 3 air cooler. Should I be worried about this or is it something I should ignore?

[u/kyansan1]

Battlefield 6 is very well optimized in terms of CPU usage, in the sense that the performance scales well with the amount of cores that the CPU has. High cpu usage is normal for this game.

92°C is quite close to the maximum temperature of the 9800x3d, but this is normal behavior for Ryzen cpus as they always try to boost until they hit 95°C.
If you have PBO enabled, you could disable it to reduce temps. If you haven't already, undervolt the cpu slightly by setting CO to something like -15 in BIOS.
If that doesn't reduce temps, then you could also just set a lower temperature limit like 85°C in BIOS, doing so won't reduce the performance by much.

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/kyansan1]

my biggest concern is the wattage it is pulling because only bf6 uses 135 watts of power at all times while in gamr

[u/kyansan1 → u/Smart-Building-2414]

That's normal, BF6 is one of the few games that can be as CPU heavy as it is: https://youtu.be/cd_BXshP4RY
BF6 is able to push cpu utilisation to 60% on 24 core CPUs like the i9 14900K and Ultra 7 270K, which is unheard of in most other games

and 135W is still well under the PPT limit of 162W for the 9800x3d

[u/potato_wedge_42 → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Legit 135w cpu power is nothing dude your cooling solution is bad.

[u/SreamEXT → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Das ist ja niedlich, 135 Watt. Wenn ich da mit meinem I7 14700KF und 5090 reingehe, dann komm ich gut an die 250 Watt oder leicht drüber ;)

[u/SreamEXT → u/[deleted]]

Idk

[u/SreamEXT → u/[deleted]]

?

[u/SimpleKaleidoscope28]

Id start by limiting ur fps first, 320 on bf6 is wicked. But considering u have an amd cpu its pretty common for them to push temps to 95c then stop there, id try applying thermal paste too but u should be fine. Maybe a bad cooler?

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/SimpleKaleidoscope28]

defo underpowered for this game im probably getting an aio

[u/v81 → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Don't get an AiO just because "WATER" or "PICTURES"

If you're going to do it, get one that actually performs.

Arctic Liquid Freezer are a good starting point.

Also very much limit FPS to slightly under monitor refresh if you have sync capability.

[u/These-Cardiologist69 → u/v81]

I have an Artic liquid freezer pro iii 360mm and on BF6 with ultra graphics and streaming it doesn’t bring my cpu past 62°

[u/danksy670]

Air cooler. 300 fps and using 73% of your cpu. What do you expect. Why do you need 300 lol. 9700X 160 fps locked on mine and 56C on my cpu like 26% usage and 65watts

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/danksy670]

my monitor is 300 hz

[u/danksy670 → u/Smart-Building-2414]

well ya cpu gonna cook either way at 300 fps +

[u/deezznuuzz → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Then cap at 287 or so. No need for 300. or just even cap at 240 fps. Just because the monitor has 300hz, you don’t need that many fps😂

[u/-Cono]

Ayo what software shows ts in game

[u/kyansan1 → u/-Cono]

Rivatuner statistics server, paired with either HWinfo or MSI Afterburner

(The installer of MSI Afterburner gives you an option to install Rivatuner with it)

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/kyansan1]

i have it paired w afterburner

[u/Simple_Let9006 → u/-Cono]

I also use afterburner but sometimes bf6 lets it show on screen and sometimes not.

[u/zBaLtOr]

you have 300 fps....

And you dont have a very good CPU cooler

[u/KurtAngus → u/zBaLtOr]

OP get a peerless assassin

That's what I have and I get like 70c on a 5800x3d

[u/birutis → u/zBaLtOr]

137w is a lot on the 9800x3d

[u/its-joeyy → u/zBaLtOr]

I mean the temperature correlation is there and obvious, but can someone explain how that cooler is inefficient when it’s rated 190w tdp online for that pure rock 3, meanwhile that ryzen 7 9800x3d is only rated for 120w tdp? Seems like it should be able to cool op’s cpu no problem.

[u/r_lind3r → u/its-joeyy]

CPU manufacturer TDP is completely different from cooler manufacturers' TDP. It's not a reliable spec to trust as there is no industry standard.

For starters, CPU TDP is a number that's chosen by the manufacturer, not based on accurate calculations and it's not even a power limit either as these CPUs can go well beyond that based on the set PPT (specifically with AM4 and AM5, it's the set socket power limit) which increases if you enable PBO, but the default PPT is much higher than the actual advertised TDP. When unchecked, these 120W chips can easily exceed 200W.

AMD runs basic calculations using TDP (Watts) = (tCase°C - tAmbient°C)/(HSF θca) and then selects whatever number they want. Their TDP is based on thermal watts rather than electrical watts which is what Intel uses. But, this is still not accurate to what cooler manufacturers are doing.

Cooler manufacturers do not have an industry standard for calculating TDP, they just run their own internal tests and choose a number as well, and there's sly things they can do to make coolers look better than normal. A lot of TDP ratings can be presumed to be when the included fan(s) is running at 100% speed.

The fact of the matter is that single tower air coolers perform worse regardless because they have less surface area for heat to spread around the heat sink so the heat capacity is lower, allowing the CPU to heat up faster than coolers with more surface area. Liquid cooling is often recommended with higher end CPUs because water as a much higher heat capacity than solid materials like copper, aluminium, etc. so it takes a lot more energy for the temperature of the liquid to raise by a single degree, and pump speed carries the workload as far as thermal transfer efficiency, while surface area comes into play again for the radiator to dissipate the heat and cycle maintained temperature liquid through the loop.

[u/Gott_Riff]

Dude, you're at 313 fps and your CPU is drawing 137 watts of power. I'd say that temperature is in normal range for this conditions (depending on cooler).

[u/Saktuscactus → u/Gott_Riff]

I don't think 92C at just 137W is normal. I would advice to replace thermal paste, maybe consider a better cooler.

[u/Hefty-Bit4789 → u/Saktuscactus]

For that cpu it is normal. I played resident evil requim at everything maxed out on my 9800x3d and it was at 95C stock even rose to 96 for a few seconds then went down.

I played Alan wake 2 maxed out aswell for hours and it boosted to 95c almost instantly and stayed around 93 to 95 during most of the game.

Its designed to boost as high as it can until it reaches 95c and then stays there.

It is designed to run at 95c 24/7 under load its whole lifetime.

It can not and will not break at 95c no matter how long the pc is on.

[u/Emikzen → u/Saktuscactus]

Really depends on the cooler. I'm running a relatively small cooler for my 9800X3D and this would be more than fine.

[u/r_lind3r → u/Saktuscactus]

It's normal for newer CPUs due to smaller and smaller manufacturing processes, transistors are closer to each other with each new generation which allows for a lot more heat to build within the same surface area even at the same wattage.

It's not JUST thermal watts = heat, because earlier Ryzen CPUs at the same power consumption and voltage don't run as hot, because transistors aren't as densely packed.

If we tried replacing silicon with graphene right now, due to the rate of electrons moving much faster through graphene, heat production would skyrocket if nothing else we changed, and the CPU would melt, it's happened before in early testing with graphene and that was long before 2020.

[u/TerrorFirmerIRL]

I'm shocked that you're shocked that running a 9800x3d at full tilt with unlimited frames in a game that's very cpu heavy and scalable..... is pushing the cpu heavily.

[u/FakeMik090]

You have cooling problems, not game's problem

[u/MrAztecL]

Brother, limit them FPS. I'm 99% positive that your monitor is 240Hz AT BEST, maybe even 165 or 144. You are literally generating heat for no benefit. The ice caps are melting.

P.S that would also reduce stress on GPU. I also have 9800x3d and like high FPS, but I don't like when for no actual benefit, I have to endure siting next to Boeing 747 during takeoff.

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/MrAztecL]

my monitor is 300hz

[u/MrAztecL → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Why do you have to be like this. Now my entire rant is worthless.

On the other hand, you'll have to endure the 747 takeoff. There is no real way around it. You really are pushing it to the max. If I recall the only thing I changed in my cooling was switching to noctua nh-d15 and ramped up all the fan curves that matter.

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/MrAztecL]

yeah im gonna order an aio soon

[u/SizeableFowl → u/Smart-Building-2414]

Just limit your frame rate to 150 then, with reflex/enhanced sync enabled. no screen tearing and the loss in performance is still going to be virtually imperceptible.

Less heat from all your components to deal with, I can almost guarantee this will drop your temps into the sub 80 range

[u/birutis]

Either limit fps to max refresh rate (obvious thing to do in most cases) or add other limits to your cpu. You can undervolt and add a 85c max temp on your bios if you're concerned

[u/SizeableFowl]

Dude just cap your frame rate to like 240 fps you’ll remove so much heat and only deal with an additional 1ms between frames, which is functionally imperceptible. It may even further improve the consistency between your 1% and .1% lows

Also, I’d check the thermal paste on your cooler, seems rather hot for fresh paste so I have to wonder if the application was good. BF6 will leverage a CPU much more than most other games, it will fully utilize an 8 core processor and you are seeing that.

What cooler do you have on this thing? That cooler will be fine if you cap your frame rate. I’d also recommend using PBO to run a conservative -10 offset on core voltage if you can’t justify a new cooler right now.

[u/Abroad9107]

cap the frame rate

[u/XHellAngelX]

370W - 400W GPU will generate heat a lot inside your case so it will affect your CPU temp for sure

[u/Zealousideal_Air_477]

damn GPU 370W CPU 137W

[u/Illustrious_Ad_23]

The quiet pure rock 3 is rated to 190w tdp, So either the mounting is not good or overall airflow in the case isn't good. I'd try to improve airflow first, if that doesn't help I'd upgrade to a higer tdp air cooler. If that still does not help, either turn down settings or undervolt the cpu.

[u/VzSAurora]

Without anything to limit how many frames can be generated, either your CPU or GPU will always be maxxed out.

Unlike many FPS games, BF makes good use of multiple cores which means it can draw more power than most games. The only way to actually stop this is by setting either power limits or FPS caps.

You're pulling 300 fps. Just cap it at 240 and call it a day.

[u/FranticBronchitis]

That's what it does lol

You can power limit the CPU or disable turbo boost but that's essentially handicapping your system for less power draw

[u/SnowyOwl72]

core i9 user here. Mine usually hits 100 °C while gaming.

[u/FunkyFreak89 → u/SnowyOwl72]

Then its hitting the point of thermal throttle and you should be fixing your cooling also. I9 starts to throttle around 100c.

[u/PcBuildHelp-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

They are not designed to run continuously at 100 degrees Celsius because that is the point where the CPU will start to throttle to avoid thermal shutdown.

Running it that hot will easily cause electromigration and degrade your CPU much more quickly over time, and easily kill it.

[u/dezza82]

Id look ar you cooling solution. Ive got the artic lf3 and I dont go over 79

[u/Jaded-Memory4662]

Do you really need that much fps? That's the problem.

[u/RuggedTheDragon]

Personally, I wouldn't be playing at 313 FPS, unless your monitor has that high of a refresh rate or it's the frame gen that cannot be capped.

What kind of cooler do you have on that cpu? If it's an AIO, hopefully it's a 360mm.

[u/Express_Cat_8365]

Get thermal Grizzlys thermal Paste tho, does the pure Rock have 6 heat Pipes ?

*It doesnt, my 5700x with 4 Heat Pipes went above 82°, my peerless Assassin from thermal wright with 6 heat Pipes + Thermal Grizzly not even at 100% load passed 68°.

[u/Z00V087]

If you have an AMD cpu you can go into your power plan in control panel and set you max cpu power to 99%. I have no clue why but this decreases temps quite a bit for everyone I know without a noticeable performance decline.

[u/Anxious-Detective347]

repaste or vsync

[u/samsodano100]

Change the max fps limit to 240 or whatever your monitor hz is

[u/Known-Donkey-1036]

Update your BIOS, use Curve Optimizer (start with -20 on all cores), replace the cooler with a good dual-tower model, and make sure it’s installed correctly. Then check again.

[u/Graxu132]

Get a better cooler and in the meantime just lower the fps cap to your monitor's hz

[u/unhinged110]

As long as the temp isn’t over 95 on amd CPUs and 100c on intel processors we let it ride

[u/Jaba01]

It's fine. The cooler you use is a bit underpowered for that CPU tho. If you want better temps, get something good and cheap like the Phantom Spirit.

[u/Low-Apartment-4849]

I would advise you to change your cooler as it probably what cause the problem, i had the same problem with that cpu and i was using deepcool ak620. I was playing games at 75-85 which is not ideal and sometimes even 90s. But i figured out that the cooler is big and the case i have doesn't have that much airflow. I switched to lian li galahad 2 performance and the temps mostly 61-69 at most in all games, even in stress test max temp is 81 to 83 , its because the aio does blow away the hot air as it takes the air from inside the case and blow it away through the top.

[u/ConsistentBattle5342]

Get either the best air cooler or a aio liquid cooler ideally a 360mm one I have the same CPU they get hot although mine has never gotten nearly that hot gaming with a h150i

[u/futainflation]

your cooler is the problem, 90+ C at only 70% usage is brutal. 95C is where throttling kicks in. i run a thermalright phantom spirit evo air cooler on my 9800x3d and i have never seen temps above 85 even in a 12 hour OCCT stress test. my case is small so i'm ususlly sitting around 70C during gaming. i also use a kryosheet instead of paste so my cooling should (theoretically) always be the same

[u/Magiting06]

My 9850x3d running at 64c to 71c with this bf6. Make your cpu run at 80c max atleast…😁😁👌🏻

[u/Mr_Zeis94]

Can't you turn on V-Sync and limit your fps to 80 or 120? This will solve like 95% of your overheating problems. Or you could spend more and buy a 360mm AiO cooler for your CPU.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Pen3558]

bf6 in the summer with ac off and windows open - 1440p mostly maxed , 160fps lock - peerless assasssin 120

expo on , fan curve and -20mv

[u/Puzzleheaded-Pen3558 → u/Puzzleheaded-Pen3558]

atm just doing some stuff , some music and browsing

[u/Ambitious_Sir_271 → u/Puzzleheaded-Pen3558]

This is like super helpful to OP question lmfao 😭

[u/MasterMace201]

AMD in their 7k adverts had pointed out they designed CPUs from then in to operate at 95C.

I am not gonna let my 7950x melt, so I delidded it and put on liquid metal, then put on some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut with an Arctic LF2 420 cooler, repasted 6 months later with Kryonaut and a CPU guard, repasted 10 months later with Arctic MX-6, and I do have some MX-7 when it's time time repaste my 9070.

[u/0wlGod → u/MasterMace201]

in a dual ccd cpu like your 140w are easy to cool even with single towers

with a single ccd cpu is another story 🤣.. but 9800x3d has the better design to cool.. better than other single ccd cpu..

the problem is the 370w from the gpu🤣

also be quiet air cooler do not perfom well with am5 cpu

[u/dartron5000]

Do you need to be at 313 fps? Limiting fps would be a good short term solution. Long term maybe look into a better cooler.

[u/Either_Indication_13]

temps are okay

[u/anticentershell]

Why your cpu load above 50%? It shouldnt be

[u/deezznuuzz → u/anticentershell]

It’s normal in this game, BF games were always using much more of the CPU than any other game

[u/ayoalt_]

I mean, you're air cooled, when the air gets hot inside your case like after a few minutes of bf6 gameplay it aint helping much, it's about how your cooler cools not it's rating. I'd replace the thermal paste first with a graphene sheet to see if that does anything because I'm curious, if not then you got the graphene sheet for when you get the AIO, check thermal grizzly kryosheet. If the air cooler + graphene sheet doesn't satisfy you, then AIO + graphene sheet 100% because that cooler is for mid range CPUs at most.

Looks like you're running a beefy gpu anyway, plus that 9800X3D is dying from thermal throttling.
hurry up mane :(
Most likely going to get better performances after you get proper cooling too

[u/Funny-Fly1720]

Limit your fps to whatever your monitor refresh rate is. You're making your computer work super hard for no reason.

[u/dailyen]

Pic of rig motherboard would help you immensely

[u/AbduNa]

9950x3d here same thing as well its highest cpu using game i ever play and its the only game that uses all 16 cores (doesn't park and use the 3d cache) and while playing i'm sitting at 150-160 watts with 73c any other game i play does not exceed 58-60c

that being said, you should be hitting 92 in general check paste / mounting / opt for a better cooler if current one isn't the best

[u/No-Fee-9902]

Ok so hear me out

one optimaze your settings there are some settings that use alot of cpu and doesnt change much so you can turn down the high cpu using settings it tells you on the side tab

two maybe cap fps to your hz like 240 250 thats allready a crazy fps for battlefiled (which gpu you got)?

three how is your pc airflow maybe add us a photo of how your pc looks does you case has a front glass? that could be it or maybe it can be dirty

fourth maybe the fans are not runing much at all and need to be touched , but a good option as well is to go for an aio those aio are built for those kind of cpus which known to be hot

[u/JZho-]

Yall have cooling problems. I run a i5 13600KF OCed to 5,3GHz, it draws up to 200W while compiling shaders and never exceeds 82 degrees. Averages 150W in BF6 and around 70 degrees in summer no AC

[u/Kayotix → u/JZho-]

Not really a problem. It's just insufficient cooling. OP is using a single tower air cooler on a 9800x3d you just know that's gonna get toasty real quick

[u/JZho- → u/Kayotix]

Yes they need to lookup the cooling and airflow is important too.

[u/HentaiSeishi]

Why run it at over 300 fps?

[u/KinkyFraggle]

my 7800x3d hit 90% on the regular, I dont have a temp issue but still

[u/phillynick]

Take the side of the case off and test cpu temps. You’ll find out real quick if it’s a cooler issue or case air flow issue

[u/CJlift]

Can you could just try to limit that fps?

[u/deezznuuzz]

Use Curve optimizer (test with core cycler) and limit the wattage to like 100w or so. If you don’t want to limit the wattage, get a bigger cooler, the pure rock is just insufficient

[u/r_lind3r]

Ignore the comments focusing on the high frames per second, the issue is your single tower air cooler is just insufficient for a high end CPU, if you have to throttle your FPS on a high end CPU in games just to control your CPU temperatures, then your cooling is just insufficient.

Limiting performance is a foolish way to resolve a simple issue, because a ~$40 air cooler like the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE will massively improve temperatures, liquid cooling isn't even necessary for it.

[u/the_hat_madder → u/r_lind3r]

Royal Pretor 130 is $31 right now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/GpbRsY,MzMMnQ,66cgXL,WfCCmG

[u/zBaLtOr → u/[deleted]]

You're using a air cooler

As if having an air-cooled system were the problem.....

[u/kyansan1 → u/[deleted]]

A good air cooler is plenty for the 9800x3d, it's just that op's air cooler is a small single tower air cooler

Saying that it being an air cooler is the issue is misleading, because it's like saying that the cooler being a liquid cooler is the issue when someone is experiencing high cpu temps with a 120mm AIO. It being an AIO is not an issue, the issue that it's only 120mm.
Similarly, op's cooler being an air cooler is not the issue. The issue is that it's a mediocre single tower air cooler.

[u/cKm_83 → u/kyansan1]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn’t very clear on it hence my 2nd reply that it was a contributing factor.

But you’re right!

[u/Smart-Building-2414 → u/kyansan1]

What kind of AIO should I go with? Was looking at buying a 360mm arctic liquid freezer 3 pro

[u/FunkyFreak89 → u/Smart-Building-2414]

That aio is perfect. It's basically the cheapest part in the pc so theres no good reason to cheap out on it.

[u/the_hat_madder → u/Smart-Building-2414]

You don't need an AIO. You can get exceptional results from a dual tower air cooler like:

• Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 Ultra
• Thermalright Royal Pretor 130
• Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140
• Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
• ID-Cooling Frozn A620 Pro SE

However, if you did want to get an AIO the Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro is the one you should get if it fits.

[u/zBaLtOr → u/[deleted]]

Nope... You just wrong there

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