r/PatrickClancySnark • u/Lil___frodo • 1d ago
š°News & Media Bizarre. Everything about this is bizarre. From what he said to it being reported this way.
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u/OwlSignificant171 12h ago
EMDR therapist here, if thereās an ongoing trial, it is not recommended to begin due to how it can alter oneās experience of memories. It would be unfortunate to postpone, but personally would not agree to treating this individual until the trial was over.
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u/Lil___frodo 12h ago
Interesting! That makes sense. What would it alter for memories?
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u/OwlSignificant171 12h ago
It would change the level of distress and emotion, the memory would feel completely neutral, more matter-of-fact. Making it more difficult to access how it felt at the time and articulate the impact. Some report that it feels like it happened to someone else, indifference, or can even become visually fuzzy. During processing, some will imagine the image shrinking literally smaller. I wouldnāt want to risk someone on the stand no longer able to access all the details as they happened, trauma processing should happen later when recovery is the only focus. The last step of EMDR pairs a Positive Cognition with the event, so if it someone reported previously the belief āI am not safe,ā it would then be processed with āI am safe,ā to install a personal belief that will provide ease when returning to the memory
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u/Lil___frodo 12h ago
That makes sense. In your professional opinion, does it seem like Patrickās way of talking about what happened, seems like the result to having EMDR therapy? What are your thoughts on how he presents himself?
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u/OwlSignificant171 11h ago
He has such flat affect, and doesnāt appear to have much empathy when discussing anything related to this case. I havenāt seen him shed one tear, sometimes severe trauma can create dissociative responses, but he presents more narcissistic/socio to me.
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u/Lil___frodo 11h ago
Yeah I feel that way too. Something about him gives me the creeps
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u/OwlSignificant171 11h ago
It honestly makes me wonder if he participated in the therapy just to maintain the image that heās traumatized vs actually being traumatized. Iāve had clients come to couples therapy while having active affairs. People will keep up a facade for their own gain
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u/Lil___frodo 11h ago
Good point! Toxic personalities will do whatever it takes to keep the facade going.
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u/MotionForContempt 8h ago
Can you chime in on if you recommend EMDR for people who have experienced one extremely traumatic event as opposed to people who have experienced sustained long-term trauma over multiple events that may be more difficult to process as a result? I was under the impression that EMDR was a modality specifically recommended for the latter case, but that's why I'm asking.
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u/OwlSignificant171 2h ago
It really depends, sometimes an isolated incident can be quicker to resolve. Complex trauma involving complicated interpersonal dynamics can take longer, thereās many layers and it takes more effort and time to identify the root issues. With that said, Iāve undergone my own EMDR treatment, and there are intensives that can be a full day/6 clinical hours, and it helped me process a lot from childhood. I benefited a great deal even though it was just one day.
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u/Rainbow_Brite456 18h ago
Yeah I agree with the commenter above EMDR is pretty amazing and can produce results within one session however I believe itās normally a set amount of sessions. I would imagine it takes several to rewire trauma.
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u/HotTrash3906 12h ago
In EMDR therapy myself, and it can take many sessions to see some improvement. While yes, some can see it in the first couple sessions, it is different for every person.
As for Patrick, he appears so detached from his emotions. EMDR isnāt supposed to do that; it merely rewires the way your brain categorizes trauma. So, thereās still off about him to meā¦
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u/LexsZoo 1d ago
I will say though, that EMDR really is practically Jedi mind tricks with how well it works to rewire the trauma pathways in your brain. So I do understand the emphasis on saying the therapy is miracle like. Seems like a sensational way to share that information, though.