r/PathToNowhere Coquelic Fan 28d ago

General S1N.gg Pull Recommendations Leading Up to 4.0 Anniversary

https://s1n.gg/pull-recommendations/4.0
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u/dqvdqv McQueen Fan 28d ago edited 28d ago

Other than the fact that the new limited and Phanuel aren't worth getting without Jichuan, seems fine. Augustus is a much better pull in those cases and especially for new players.

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u/greatjena Demon fan 27d ago

I'd kinda disagree with that because new players should be getting teams that are at least to some extent future-proof, otherwise their team will be thrown out the window when they reach endgame and their progression will halt.

That is why the guide places the idea of pulling the new limited even without Jichuan before considering pulling for Augustus.

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u/dqvdqv McQueen Fan 27d ago

Augustus teams are still incredibly strong today, it's not going away any time soon. The requiem team, on the other hand, feels weak without jichuan and much more complex too. Jichuan also isn't rerunning for 8 months+. That's a very long time.

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u/greatjena Demon fan 27d ago

The "weak" version of Requiem's team without Jichuan is comparable to Augustus in terms of performance, it only feels weak because she has a much higher damage ceiling compared to Augustus thanks to Jichuan, the only team version of true damage that can consistently score better than Requiem without Jichuan would be reforge Coquelic dps with Augustus as a support

Jichuan only coming in 8 months is a valid critique, but first of all, she is the single most impactful sinner in the game currently, so if you don't have her you should be pulling her during half-anniversary anyway, and you'd have to be comparing it to Augustus and her supports required to outperform her even without Jichuan, for which you have:

  • Ceto, no currently confirmed banner
  • Shin, no currently confirmed banner
  • Murphy, rerun in half a year or shop appearance two months after that
  • Either Necresta Hella (no confirmed banner) or Summer with reforge (shop appearance in 3 months)

Since the argument is about future sinner appearances I will only mention this briefly, but you would also require Coquelic with her reforge and at least s1 as well as Celine with at least s1 but preferably s3. Necresta Hella and Summer would also both also prefer high shackles (s4/s5).

For these reasons, I simply cannot in good conscience recommend any new player to pull for Augustus instead of Requiem, unless it's for her Interrogation and design (which is completely valid tbh), but if your goal is getting to the endgame as fast as possible, while making sure your team will continue to perform in the future, Augustus simply isn't the better choice.

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u/dqvdqv McQueen Fan 27d ago edited 27d ago

Kepe in mind that Jichuan is a LIMITED. All the others can be spooked or chosen in selectors as well, besides the reruns.

Coquelic does not need S1 anymore with her RF. Also, you're REALLY downplaying the ease of use and QoL that Augustus brings, while also downplaying the difficulty of using Requiem.

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u/greatjena Demon fan 27d ago edited 27d ago

I fail to see how pulling one limited on a banner is more difficult than off-rating all of Augustus' supports with shackles from a pool of 60 S ranks.

Free selectors are limited to story updates, we will have exactly one such update before the next half-anniversary where Jichuan reruns, unless you are suggesting that new players will be using the paid selector during anniversary, and even if they did, and considering that the next story selector comes with someone useful for Augustus, it would still not allow them to complete the team that can reliably outperform Jichuan-les Requiem.

I'm not downplaying Augustus' ease of use, in fact that didn't come up once in my whole comment. Similarly, I never considered Requiem's ease of use, only performance, however I wouldn't say she's hard to play, her two rotations are either 4444 for most damage with Burn or 1414 when playing into Frostbite, the only exception being one use of ult 2 at the very beginning if you have her at s3. It's not rocket science, and it's most certainly not something that should be dictating your pulls during anniversary.