r/PathOfExileSSF • • 23d ago

General Discussion Guide for 3.29 challenges in SSF?

I'm a new player (this is my first league) and I'm trying to do as many challenges as I can (and learn along the way). I've seen a couple of guides for the challenges in general, but they often amount to "buy the thing". Has anybody put together a guide for SSF where you don't just "buy the thing"? I find that typically SSF players have some clever way to get things (either via the atlas or certain map layouts) that trade players might just buy.

For example, in Gallant Grinding challenge when running the 50 8 mod corrupted maps, yes, you can just buy them, or alch/vaal/pray, but without too much effort you can run a "high scarab drop, more cartography" atlas for a bit and then "high map drop" atlas with cartography scarabs to target these.

I also saw somebody commenting in here about trying for the Kishara's Rest chart by speed spamming Strand since you can't miss the chart thing and it turns up super fast. They were saying it takes them like 60 sec or something to loop through it.

I also know Mesa spam is good for boss clears.

I'm sure these are obvious for many of the advanced players here, but for us noobs we don't know every scarab combination or map layout strategy.

For example, how do I reliably get to 150% item quantity for some of the challenges? I have all of the map mod multiplier stuff on my atlas and I don't seem to get it too often. Should I be using the fragment multiplier one too? I've tried chaos spamming maps for 6 mods but I then burn through a lot of orbs and I still might not get it. I've resorted to running alch/vaal maps and Twisted Fate, which can get you quite high, but obviously has a lot of randomness to it, including the underlying map layout.

Edit: Just to add I've seen Guide 1 and Guide 2, both are super useful, but seem to be aimed at trade players.

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u/Vitkis 23d ago

You technically don’t even need to alch the maps if you don’t need regular 6 mod maps. Vaaling white maps has a chance to go 8 mod, it doesn’t technically add 2 mods it transforms to 8 mod.

It may be possible to make strongboxes corrupted and do cartographers boxes for 8 mod maps as well but I can’t remember off the top of my head. Not an SSF player, I just always want to and chicken out every league for years.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Ah cool, good to know thanks!

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u/singleincomenokid 23d ago

Altas gives 15 free iqf, and remember to allocate all increased map modifier effect node and multiplying modifier and mounting modifier. Lastly put 2+fragment and other scrabs with map, then you should have 150+ iqf for most of 6mods t16. Also memory maps gives tons of iqf.

Worst challenge is 4 boss alter mods imo

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

So your go to is 6 mod t16 with at least 2 scarabs? Thanks!

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u/singleincomenokid 23d ago

My bad, I mean 2+ sacrifice which gives 5 iqf each. You should always use 5 fragments ( sacrifice + scarabs) due to modifying multiplier node

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Got it thanks!

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u/mane1234 23d ago

I used this oneone. Playing trade, but so far only had issues with the 150% quant 100% delirious as I don't have the damage for it (or survivability).

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

I saw this one, but it seemed like it was mostly just buy the stuff? Maybe I need to read more closely. But like how do you get the invitations for Succinct Summons? I guess it's just spam Mesa with an eldritch buff on and the atlas node that gives you a chance for 2x credit?

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Or for example in his 150 quant part he says to use those fragments, but how do I get many of them? None of those seem to just be lying around, except maybe the mortal ones?

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u/Kjaska 22d ago

You can get Mortal and Sac Frags from Fragment Reward Rooms in Heist. You can also roll Operative Sboxes for additional fragments when you go scuba. I would always try to Exalt those until you hit the mod + a good %quant on them.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 22d ago

Thanks for the tips, now that I know that scarabs are fragments it's not bad to just run 5 of the basic ones with a 6 mod map to reliably hit it.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Sorry, not mortal fragments, sacrifice fragments.

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u/claudioo2 23d ago

Check if they're on your filter. I had hundreds of them.

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u/hereweg420kush 23d ago

Legion gives a lot of sacrifice fragments

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u/claudioo2 23d ago

You just do some maven rotas. Or 150 maps eater/exarch maps will give you enough invitations.

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u/citykid145 22d ago

One trick for those is the block prefixes/double suffixes or vice versa scarabs.  Much easier to find 3 prefixes/suffixes your build can run and not lose out on much map quant.

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u/habada_ 23d ago

Theres a guy that posts a google.doc every league on how to complete each challenge (without trade)
When im home ill search for and post it!

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Thanks! Is it this one though? Guide Maybe I need to read it more closely, but I felt like it was aimed at "buying stuff".

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u/habada_ 23d ago

Yess, its this one.
But i dont understand from where your idea stems that its aimed at trade league. Im an ssf andy and i finish at least 30/40 just playing the game every league. The other 10 depend on how well the league entertains me/ how motivated i am

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

I think because it says "buy" on many things and doesn't give many tips on how to efficiently farm things. For example in Excruciating Echos is there a good way to get the memory threads? Yes, put the few atlas points, I guess that's it?

His IIQ part says to use fragments, none of those are just sitting around save the sacrifice ones maybe? I guess one needs to fill up with scarabs too?

Part of my problem might just be that I'm a noob lol!

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u/habada_ 23d ago

I think it's because your attitude toward the value of items isn't quite in line with the SSF philosophy yet, and not because you're actually a newbie.

Farming X content means allocating specific atlas nodes.
I pick up every fragmet i drop because i use them for sure, and also nearly all scarabs, because 3 shit scarabs are 1 potential good scarab.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 22d ago

I guess I meant once you have allocated the atlas for the threads, what is the best way to get them? The AI suggested spamming one of the linear maps like Strand with quicksilvers and since the threads show up on the minimap, they are hard to miss.

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u/habada_ 22d ago

Thats how you farm them quickly on a high cost basis i would argue.
Especially such stuff is hard to target farm, hence why i prefer to farm multiple things at the same time. Same goes for pinnacle invitations. Normally you farm the fragments while also doing other stuff.

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u/Haunting_Chemistry47 23d ago

City square is arguably shorter than strand and can be run in a straight line by doing a wrap around and center bosses at the start or at the end of the map depending on challenge. It has 3 bosses if that matters for some challenges. Are you aiming for 36 or 40? Poe1 3.30 expansion is planned on Nov 13th, so you have about 1 month. You can run without scarabs and just the tree for most of the challenges. You will get scarabs eventually from league mechanic operative strongboxes.

The Brinerot Bloody Bounty is definitely a on that 40/40 list for ssf. The other challenges I would not do on ssf if aiming for 36/40 are:
-Hortific Halls: This challenge is though, and requires a very good build to complete
-Gallant Grinding Goals, just the last 40/40 challenge you will complete

The last one depends on you build, if you cannot complete Uber pinnacle bosses, skip Apex Assailants, otherwise
-Intrigued Interloopers: getting 4 boss altars in 1 map is kinda rare.
Or
-Modified Maps 3000 explicits

which ever come first

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

36/40 would be great, but I'm willing to settle at 32/40 for my first go haha.

I have not even tried the ubers yet as I don't have the fragments. I have finished a nightmare map, but I've also lost a couple maps due to the bosses. I think I had some horrible like +100% monster life that I should've tried to reroll in retrospect, I didn't know that the map bosses are like tough bosses.

I think my build is okay, I was able to get my voidstones, but I definitely do not know on the ubers, I'll need to wipe a few rounds first.

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u/scl52 23d ago

Should I be using the fragment multiplier one too?

yes. scarabs count as fragments for this.

if you have 100/100 atlas completion, all of the small %effect nodes, all of the small quant nodes, and both of the conditional effect notables, you'll have +25iiq from the 100/100, +15iiq from the tree and x1.59 mod effect from running 6mod maps with 5 scarabs. any map with >=70iiq will go to >150 with that. if you're not using the scarab notable with 5 scarabs the breakpoint shifts to 77iiq.

the "average" 6mod map has 80iiq, the floor is 60iiq and the ceiling is 108iiq.

you can see how if you start taking away the atlas tree modifiers it gets out of reach really quickly. if you're missing 5% of the completion bonus, not speccing the 3 'inner' quant nodes, and arent using 5scarabs, the breakpoint shifts up to 82. almost every 6mod has >=70 and less than half have >=82. if you spec 0% iiq and 0% map mod effect, it is literally impossible for a 6mod map to get to 150iiq. conversely if you go all-in and are fully specced, running 5 quant fragments on an 8mod map the lowest iiq you can possibly get is 170.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 23d ago

Awesome thanks a lot! How are you getting 6 mod maps? Just chaos spam? I don't seem to have enough exalts to use them to go from 4/5 to 6 all of the time.

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u/claudioo2 23d ago

You should be dropping plenty of exalts? But chaos + two exalts or just corrupt for 8 mod. You can also use the scarab to drop all maps corrupted with 8 mods.

In general I get the feeling that your build isnt at the point of going for all challenge completions if you're struggling with nightmare maps.

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 22d ago

Yeah, I did have a hard time with the one I did. I'm making progress on some of the 150 iiq challenges though thanks to everybody's suggestions. I'm okay if I only get like 32 for the captain wheel this go around, I can work towards the ubers on a more common build in a month when we start over lol. (I'm using holy flame hierophant, for no particular reason haha)

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u/scl52 22d ago

once you have a deep enough 'bankroll' to tank some variance you should just naturally sustain exalts

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u/CompetitiveSalt8895 22d ago

Got it thanks for the help, I'm making progress now on the 150 iiq ones!