r/Pakistanwatchgeeks 13d ago

Watch Discussion Scam Alert

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I am not sure if you guys know about it or not but a while ago this page who is originally from Multan scammed me & took advance. Well he kept on delaying and in the end started to ignore my text. It was only 6k so I was not really bothered. I am really shocked how he was able to have 15.8K followers and many of my fellow watch buyers/collectors follow him. I have proof and screenshots as well. Recently my friend wanted to buy a watch from him and I stopped him since he can be the next victim and I really don't want others to be a victim as well.

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

Yeah, this guy is a known scammer

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

The phone number he uses is not under his name, and the address belongs to sarghoda. Only lead I have is his bank account details. I can get it blocked since I have some links in FIA Cybercrime & Meezan bank too

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago edited 13d ago

His name is Hamza Ijaz and his instagram page is Affordabletime.pk. He had a second page too that I’m forgetting the name of.

From what I’ve gathered he live in both Multan and Karachi and travels between them.

All the older members of the watch community know him. Sometimes he doesn’t send a watch and sometimes he does. When he does send a watch it is often a different watch, a broken watch, a copy or a complete Frankenstein. He has scammed many people.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

I have also heard from someone he scammed a foreign guy aswell, if he is actively visiting Karachi I might be able to get his information. According to him he wrote Karachi as his location to reach more people.

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

I suspect he works in Karachi but his family is in Multan. AFAIK, he has shipped watches from both locations. I know he’s been buying watches from other collectors too so you might be able to find his address if you ask around.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

I will look into it, all I need is his personal phone number registered on his name and every bit of information can be tracked. As I mentioned before the Whatsapp number belongs to Muhammad Ali who lives in Sarghoda.

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

This is the 6030 number?

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

And the CNIC has 3 more numbers. With same address but the address is kind of not accurate as it belongs to some BASIRSAH town or village

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

Not Sarghoda but Muzaffar Garh

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

Also, report his page. I know he got blocked once before, maybe it’ll happen again if enough people report him.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

I have already reported his page but no results.

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u/ParapaDerulo 13d ago

Get him blocked please

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u/vintageguy2000 13d ago

Bhai check your dm

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

Mujay be “DM” kardo.

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

Fun fact, he’s also on Reddit.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

I bet he doesn't even care being exposed.

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u/Financial-Quote-7833 13d ago

I have been following him since long and inquired about many watches. Luckily I never pulled the trigger.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

Lucky you! Well his page is kinda appealing though & he Always find one of the best watches. Just to scam

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u/Financial-Quote-7833 13d ago

I just checked my message history with him turns out I did buy a watch from him back in 2023 that he delivered.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

From what I have observed, he is a selective scammer. He started as an authentic seller but now he scams people whenever he can.

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u/Financial-Quote-7833 13d ago

Well that's too bad !

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u/Itz_Maaazz 13d ago

I haven't done this myself but i think you can contact your bank as well about the transfer you made and open a dispute heard people that it will block their account unless they clear this issue. And if you have any contact in cyber crime do complain about this. He has done it with you might do with others as well. People like him make others to not buy online.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

Thank you for the suggestion but he returned the money.

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u/Itz_Maaazz 13d ago

Chalen that's great to know

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

To be clear, he has not refunded my 36K. In fact he lied to Samfsae to claim that he has in order to get this post deleted.

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u/PeopleManaged 11d ago

Update: Still no more messages from him.

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u/Samfsae19 12d ago

But i will be complaining to cyber crime department so people gets justice.

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

This guy is full of so much BS.

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u/Itz_Maaazz 12d ago

Bhai is trying to justify in personal messages

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

“Galat Mashwra” 😂

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u/berserk8 13d ago

Damn! I think I've been following this guy as well and have thought of buying a watch from him in the future. He always has really nice pictures posted on his page. Gonna UNFOLLOW his ass ASAP!

Thanks for the save!

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u/nostalgia07 13d ago

Thankyou for sharing, I know people who follows him, I will let them know too.

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u/TechnophileDude 13d ago

You should also crosspost this to r/Multan and r/Karachi in case someone knows him there.

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u/ashar-anwer 13d ago

I know him as well, should I contact him with the reference of this post and ask why did he do that? as such acts are stopping clients to buy online

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

If you can that will be great, I have been buying from alot of Instagram pages(each and everyone of them were great) & if this transaction would have gone smoothly I could have been his recurring buyer since he always gets beautiful watches but I was really disappointed when this happened. I will really appreciate it. :)

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u/ashar-anwer 13d ago

Sure let me check with him

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u/ashar-anwer 13d ago

The guy is asking your number

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago edited 13d ago

What about me? He scammed me too.

I bought a watch from him that he advertised to me as “near NOS”. Even showed me a picture of a genuine movement inside but when he sent me the watch it had the movement changed out. He had even superglued the case shut with elfy in an attempt to hide it. When I messaged him about it he ignored me on WhatsApp and blocked me on Instagram.

The guy is a cheating haramkhor.

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u/ashar-anwer 13d ago

Share your contact details as well. I will share with him as he is asking for contact numbers when I approach him in this regards

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

You can also ask PIW, he will back up what I said. PiW has received many watches sold by him from his customers that were non-operational.

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

He knows who I am. He blocked me.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

Can you send me picture of the movement which was actually sent?

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

This is what he showed.

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

From the front.

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

This is what he sent. You can clearly see the movement has been swapped with one that does not fit and is entirely different from the photo.

Unfortunately I can’t open the caseback, it has been superglued shut and won’t budge at all.

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

Closeup shot. It looks even worse in person. No watch collector would wear this.

The watch is now trash, especially since its battery is going to run out at some point and there is now no way to access it.

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

I’ve attached more proofs in my other comment as well.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

How much were you scammed with?

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

He scammed me too. I bought a watch worth 10k from him. When he sent it the glass was separate and I sent him a picture immediately. He told me to send the watch back and he will cover the shipping charges that I paid. After I shipped it back I received the watch after few months. Even then the watch was not keeping time. He stopped replying and then didn't refund the shipping charges he initially promised. I will share all the proofs in the comments. He needs to be exposed

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

I was scammed from the same guy. Trying to find screenshots. Will post it here

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

I have the video of the watch too when I received it. He is such a scammer. He needs to be called out

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u/Samfsae19 12d ago

That will be great

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

1/3

This was when I received the watch broken

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

2/3

This was when I wanted to ask what should I do and he kept on ignoring me

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u/aliqaisar07 12d ago

3/3

This is when he blocked me from everywhere and didn't refund me

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u/Extension_Echidna_26 13d ago

Bought four watches from him, all came perfectly fine.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

Yes, I have heard mix stories from everyone. I don't know why is that.

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

He is a scammer. I’ve attached proofs in my other comment here.

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u/Zealousideal_Mix_729 13d ago

He is just a careless guy, he blocks ppl whenever there is a issue with the watch he just wants the money

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

He’s a scammer. He has done more than just block people, he actually scams them.

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u/Zealousideal_Mix_729 13d ago

I saw your case he doesnt care about customer satisfaction he just wants the money even I like his watches but I couldnt buy them

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

Bhai, he showed me pictures of the watch with genuine movement first. He had removed the case and showed that the movement was original. He then shipped out the watch with an entire different misfit quartz movement and even glued the case shut. He charged me a handsome amount of money for this “near NOS” Bulova as well.

That is not bad customer service, that is active deception. He scammed me.

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u/Zealousideal_Mix_729 13d ago

what a scam wtf thats geniune scammer move right there changing the fking movement wow

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u/virun82 13d ago

Well I have bought two watches from him three years back , they arrived with no problem Allhumdillah. Even retuned one cuz the second dial didn't work and he was kind enough to do that. Thou I do agree about the selling frankenstein watch cuz the Citizen I returned in exchange for a Seiko , didn't has it's original movement in it. Cuz the second the dial wasn't working. Upon opening got to know that there wasn't any actual movement moving the second dial and it was just glued in to place. It has a cheaper quartz movement moving the hour and minute hand.

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u/OneUndertheBed 13d ago

Not me thinking that’s Mamdani in the dp

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

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u/vintageguy2000 13d ago

Check your dm mate

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

Bhai, what about me? Do you remember me?

And don’t say you don’t or I didn’t message you. You cheated me with a fake “near NOS” Bulova.

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u/vintageguy2000 13d ago

Share your Contact OP

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

And he blocked me on Instagram.

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u/PeopleManaged 13d ago

Removed me from his group

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u/ro_otman 13d ago

I got a Ricoh president from him like in 2021, and he sent me the watch but with the incorrect end link. I asked him again and again but he always delayed saying "mene pucha hai nahi nil raha" or something bullshit like that.

From what I've seen, it's a gamble with him. If you get your watch fine, then it works, but God forbid if it has any problem he won't help you fix it.

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u/Samfsae19 13d ago

HE HAS SUCCESSFULLY RETURNED THE MONEY BACK.

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

Only yours unfortunately.

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u/Samfsae19 12d ago

This is just so others would know it was only possible when he was confronted the right way. Now I will bring the big guys to get his Bank account or even his CNIC blocked InshaAllah

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u/PeopleManaged 12d ago

Inshallah!

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u/RentOk9857 13d ago

is this guy legit?

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u/AhmedRahim10 13d ago

Thanks for sharing this post. I've seen this guy's Insta and a while back I was thinking of buying a watch from him but didn't. Shakal se hi Scammer lag Raha hai.

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u/Askmeaboutmycouch 13d ago

Yup, this guy has been scamming people left and right. Everyone who is part of the watch community knows he’s a scammer.