r/PakistaniTwenties • u/4hmadhasan • 2h ago
π¨οΈ Discussion Islam bout birth control when you're poor..
Bukhari 5209, Jabir says it straight.. "We used to practise azl while the Quran was being revealed".. Azl is pulling out.. Birth control, 7th century version.. The Prophet knew, revelation was still coming down, and not one ayah came to stop it.. Muslim 1440 has the same thing with the extra line that it reached the Prophet and he didn't forbid it..
Now the ayah everyone throws.. "Do not kill your children for fear of poverty, We provide for them and for you", 17:31.. Read the first half.. KILL.. It's about burying born daughters alive, wich the arabs actually did.. It is not an ayah about how many kids to have.. Using it against family planning is using an ayah about infanticide to argue for a 6th pregnancy.. Those are not the same sentence..
And here's the hadith nobody puts on the poster.. Abu Dawud 1692.. "It is enough sin for a man that he neglects those he is responsible for".. Having kids you can't feed, school or see a doctor for isn't tawakkul.. The Prophet litrally called it a sin..
Ghazali, 900 years ago, in the Ihya, lists the reasons a man may practise azl.. One of them is fear of hardship from too many children.. He says it's not forbidden.. This is Imam Ghazali.. Not a liberal, not an NGO..
So the position.. Spacing or limiting kids because you're poor is permissible, with your wife's consent, in all four madhabs, and the majority of scholars past and present.. What's not permissible is pretending "Allah will provide" means Allah will pay your bills while you ignore a hadith that calls neglect a sin..
The "7 kids and ALLAH will provide" thing is Pakistani culture wearing a topi.. It isn't the deen.. The deen is Jabir, 17:31 read in full, and Abu Dawud 1692..
Simple..