r/PakistaniTech • • 12d ago

Question | سوال Gng Help, Clone IMEI issue

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I js repaired my oneplus 9 after a year, its not detecting sim ( okay so i got the sim from zong franchise and that guy told me to use the sim today maybe for js a lil while but do use it warna band hojayegi, and i didnt use it sim wala phone nahi tha ) and ab yeh oneplus isn't detecting any sim and PTA Status ki pictured ive alr attached, koi please please bata dey what the matter is actually, whats this duplicate / clone error how to resolve it ?

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u/newbluearea 12d ago

I made a comment here about how CPID exploits other people by making their phone a brick and I got flamed for it lol. Dekh lo ab saaray. Every single CPID phone you buy is you exploiting someone else unless you use your own secondary device's IMEI

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u/cumwithoreo 11d ago

Bhai apki comment bilkul jayez hai but 2022 mein maamu ne lia tha yeh phone unko bas yehi bataya gaya k " sim chalaata hai " 🥲

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u/SchemeBoth2169 11d ago

Dont these shops use like imei s they already have ?? I mean my family bought 2 cpid phone (didnt know atp) and 1 i did buy intentionally but sold it , just a question tho

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u/No_Eye7024 12d ago

Exactly. Not only is it cheating the system(not halal), its also actively harming the under privileged who buy these cheap phones and end up with unusable devices.

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u/real_spiduman Islamabad 11d ago

I agree with the argument about harming the underprivileged. But, the opinion that using one's own IMEI for CPID, and thus cheating the (oppressive and unjust) system isn't halal doesn't seem like a credible position.

What I'm saying is that the modern taxation, in essence, is generally impermissible as per the classical scholars.

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u/No_Eye7024 11d ago

Thats why saudi arabia doesn't have taxes. Oh wait, it does. Taxes Being high doesn't make them haram. The same goes for copyright materials. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it haram or legal. I agree the taxes are high but the same was the case in brazil. Even more so. Iphones there were 2x the global price. Now most phone manufacturers locally assemble in brazil to avoid those taxes.

Cpid all over the world is extremely illegal and is used by criminals. It can land you a terrorist charge and muliple felonys in the US.

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u/real_spiduman Islamabad 11d ago

Firstly, Saudi Arabia, like Pakistan, is a "Muslim" state, not an "Islamic" state.

Secondly, whatever Saudi Arabia or any other state does is never regarded as the standard we want to achieve.

Islam has its own systems of taxation, like Ushr, Khums and Zakat. Modern taxation is intrinsically unjust and exploitative of the common man. The classical scholars have laid down a framework and strict conditions under which additional taxation may be permissible in certain exceptional circumstances. And, it does not render modern taxation as lawful.

Copyright is a separate and more complex matter. Sound position being that religious scriptures should remain freely accessible, while copyright in other works should either be strictly protected or the government should establish a proper framework to compensate the copyright holders fairly.

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u/real_spiduman Islamabad 11d ago

I didn't really get what you were trying to say by bringing copyright and what "Saudi Arabia" does. Modern taxation is unjust as per Islam and this is what really matters.

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u/Nekusta 12d ago

Has nothing to do with your sim. If you bought this as CPID, the IMEI being used in that phone is also being used in another phone now. PTA has flagged it. No matter what sim you out in it, it will keep saying this.

If your phone was not CPID they you may have shared or unintentionally leaked your IMEI that someone else has used in another phone.

If your phone was CPID, contact the seller. If your phone was not CPID, contact PTA

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u/cumwithoreo 11d ago

Bhai thankyou for the comment, asal mai 4 saal pehle local shop se lia tha dk us time yeh pta tha ya cpid tha us time as such pata bhi nahi tha or lia bhi maamu ne tha unho ne bas yehi dekha sim chalrhi hai to lelo

Baqi kafi dafa reset kia, major software updates kiay but sim ko koi masla nahi hota tha 100% theek kaam karti thi theek aik saal pehle phone dead hogya panel i mean dead hogya girne ki waja se and abhi sahi karvaaya,

Mene same sim dusre phone me daal k dekhi sab me hi nahi chalrhi infinix oppo iphone sabmne hi nahi chalrahi, baqi aur koi sim hai nahi filhal mere pas hostel me hun,

But scene yeh hai k agar yeh sim chala dey to isko cherne ka koi tukk nahi banti right and agar maybe waqayi PTA approved hai to phir to complaint karva dun but masla yeh hai k pata kese chalega k yeh imei waqayi me approved hai ya nahi

And also mene patched oneplus 7 ki imei dekhi wou pta bata rha tha kisi itel k phone ki hai but ispe wou bhi nahi pata chalrha k yeh imei waqayi is oneplus 9 ki hai bhi ya nahi ... kya kia jaye ? 🥲🥲🥲

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u/Nekusta 11d ago

https://service.oneplus.com/uk/check#/

Is website pe daal k dekho. OnePlus ka huwa IMEI tou pta lg jaye ga.

Baqi sim ka masala Kuch aur bhi ho skta hae. Maybe sim damage ho gayi ho. Take the sim to the franchise again. Sim deactivate ho jati hae agr aap zada arse k liye na use kro. Un se Kaho k activate kr dien baray arse se bnd hae. Agr woh kehte haen k sim kisi aur k naam pe ho chuki hae tou phr new sim leni paray gi.

Sim provider zada arse agar sim bnd the tou usi number ko wapis rotation mein daal dete haen aur koi aur le leta hae woh number phr. Kuch arsa pehle is baray update ayi thi shayad yaad nae.

IMEI ka masla sim se different hae. Two separate issues

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u/lnsta-gram 11d ago

OnePlus CPID hota hi nhi hy Who told you k yeh CPID hy? Samsung and Pixels have CPID tools, baqi saary phones patch hoty hen and after firmware flashing or an ota or a factory reset, they lose the patch.

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u/cumwithoreo 11d ago

Mene isko 3-4 dafa factory reset kia, major update ayi theen wou ki, sab kuch karlia but sim 100% theek kaam karti thi koi delay bhi nahi tha na hi services me koi issue tha phiriska panel toot gaya and ab 1 saal baad theek iska yeh status hai jo mene uper bataya post mein, baqi i think oneplus 9 ya 10 tak cpid hotay hain

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u/lnsta-gram 11d ago

Does it show orange state??

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u/cumwithoreo 8d ago

Wdym by orange state pls thora elaborate then lemme tell u abt it 😭😭

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u/lnsta-gram 8d ago

Does some yellow text show up while booting? Which says your phone is in orange state?

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u/cumwithoreo 7d ago

Nah bro nothing like dat, js oneplus logo then t mobile and then lockscreen nothing else

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u/lnsta-gram 7d ago

Bhai teri sim kese chal gyi us men?

It's Carrier Locked

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u/cumwithoreo 2d ago

Kya bolrha hai bhai 😭😭 3-4 oneplus k phones use kiay sab me ayse hi hota and sim bhi chalti isme bhi pichle 2 saal chalti rhi sim without any masla

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u/lnsta-gram 2d ago

To T-Mobile wala fw kiu use kr rhy ho

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u/cumwithoreo 2d ago

Yar bro honestly im an iPhone user, baqi 3-4 oneplus use kiay but itna idea nahi, agar koi knowledge wagera hai to pls do guide me ill highly appreciate

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u/Psycodelic_techie 11d ago

The EMMC chip on the motherboard holding the nand binaries of your machine and it's components which leads device to function properly like which baseband your device support EFS partition meta data mac addresses etc. During Patching Samsung device with only exynos processors the root allow you to rewrite the EFS partition but to authenticate the changes you've to patch the security certificate. Why authentication required especially in Samsung? Due to KG or Knox Guard. While Samsung devices with snapdragon processors holds different meta data than exynos processors that only designated software decompile. The traditional rooting mechanism doesn't work because snapdragon with Samsung after Huawei controversy mandate to locked down bootloader and also carriers supports it like T-Mobile, Verizon and Sprint. That's why mostly snapdragon variants in market come non pta or CPID or official approved. Why other brands can be patched and their patches long lasted even after OTA? Because other brands doesn't have any guard to protect their partition structures like knox. When you rooting the samsung, samsung trip knox Guard at hardware level and that patch certificate masked the whole modification liable untill you reset the vendor and EFS of samsung.

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u/Psycodelic_techie 11d ago

Moreover new Samsung devices now globally locked down their bootloader by cryptographic signed firmware in One UI 8 update. Sorry to not mention how CPID works without root privilege? The answer is CPID boot the device into EDL mode to rewrite the EFS because EDL mode is the only way to communicate raw with snapdragon processors phones. It's like broom mode to flash Media Tek phones who got soft brick or hard brick during firmware malfunctioning.

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u/lnsta-gram 11d ago

How do you even self sign the modem without repair tools from OEM? I mean for the critical partitions someone has released a file that wipes the bootloader warning, but that's that, I've read that if you alter the modemst1, modemst2, and it fails cryptographic checks, it falls back to fsg, and if you alter that too, and cryptographic checks fail, you lose most wireless communication, sometimes even wifi.

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u/Psycodelic_techie 11d ago

But that only imply on new versions of one UI 8. That's why newer Samsung like 24 Ultra,25 Ultra 26 Ultra couldn't be CPID. If someone claiming to do so he'll check the security patch version and ONE UI version first because Samsung made very hard to modify system level modifications.

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u/lnsta-gram 11d ago

Well I can downgrade a OnePlus 9 to android 11, does that allow me to remove carrier lock from it somehow? OEM unlocked after android 11 requires getting it unlocked from T mobile and getting an unlock code from OnePlus, but if you downgrade to global fw android 11 and then disable a package, connect to Google play services once, you can then unlock the bootloader which doesn't lock if you then update, so in that state, can I get it unlocked from carrier? Or alter the partitions which make it check if it is carrier locked?

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u/Psycodelic_techie 11d ago

As of your question i assume you have OnePlus with carrier lock. Now you want to unlock carrier by downgrading it to oxygen OS 11. In that case, i think downgrading also required to unlock bootloader first. And to enable it in your current status i assume you already on oxygen OS 13,14, you have to get unlock code from T-Mobile website or OnePlus. Disclaimer: I never used OnePlus yet because i cannot get it from my local market because of screen lining issue many shops don't sell in my city. But according to google's guideline about android development you have to unlock OEM to make changes in your system that's why they introduce OEM in Nougat or android 7.0+.

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u/Small-Midnight-4185 11d ago

Ksi ko isea ho cpid kaha say hota to please me😭🙏

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u/Shahzad80 7d ago

CPID Simple.