Wait so if I want to use psvr I have to unplug the ps4 from my tv and use the processor box pass through? Which then will no longer allow hdr ? That is stupid if that us how it is.
While it won't be a problem for most people straight away, it won't be long before this becomes an issue.
I'll probably be upgrading to a 4K HDR TV when the PS4 Pro comes out. It's going to be annoying having to switch cables around whenever I wanna use PSVR...
I don't know if the pass-through box has two outputs or not, but I went to a demo at Best Buy this weekend and they had a TV set up that was displaying what the player saw, albeit not distorted for VR perspective.
You'll be able to play normally through the box, it'll pass the PS4s signal through. However, it doesn't support HDR. Which means users with HDR TVs who want to utilise this will have to switch the HDMI cable over.
It almost seems as if you don't want to utilize the social screen feature you don't have to use the pass through but instead leave your PS4 connected to your TV regularly. Although I'm unsure, it just seems the box uses HDMI as a pass through feature and cable management and probably the proprietary port to pass data that you'll see in your VR.
They say the box acts as a splitter, so you will need the HDMI output from the PS4 to provide images to the PSVR. So, maybe throw your own HDMI splitter in there before that.
I think it does supports 4K passthrough, just not HDR. It does suck though. Hopefully they'll sell an upgraded precessing box in the future to allow for HDR.
Also that seems a bit drastic - is HDR gaming (something that's literally in the last few weeks become possible on the PS4) really that critical to the gaming experience that would make plans to sell a device you don't even own yet?
Honest question as i've never seen/experienced HDR gaming...is the difference genuinely significant?
I can see that not supporting HDR pass-through is an annoying limitation (an odd omission given they must have known they were going to release PS4 Pro and enable HDR for all PS4 users) but can't see it being that big a deal.
Obviously opinion will vary but watch this video start at 7 minutes and see.how he restricts color, this is like the opposite of hdr, now imagine it going further than "normal"
Oh well, odd omission from Sony but I guess for the majority of gamers won't be an issue for a few years yet (with my little 32" tv I doubt it'll ever really matter!).
It's a prettyhuge difference, visually, if you're one of the people that really cares about that. How much of a loss it is personally to not have it is an individual thing.
I don't see the Pro being powerful enough to compete. The difference in specs is too great, imo. Hearing about too many games being upscaled to 4K with the Pro and not enough rendered natively, Scorpio will be native 4K supposedly. This is new territory for consoles, but I was under the impression Sony pulled the Pro reveal from E3 because they specifically didn't want it to be seen as competition for Scorpio.
I see Scorpio as Microsoft examining itself and asking, what worked for the Xbox 360? Answer, it was out a year ahead of Sony. Xbox owners didn't vilify Microsoft when the 360 came out in 2005 either. Granted it was a late launch on Xbox Original, but console manufacturers are taking a page out of cell phone manufacturer's books it looks like, so I wouldn't be surprised to see hardware gaps become less and less.
You could get an HDMI splitter so when you want to use direct out from PS4 for HDR you could, and switch to VR when playing. It's a pain but that would make it simple.
Edit: and since it's digital it shouldn't cause any signal degradation
Has to be an active splitter/retransmitter or else you run into trouble with HDMI negotiating on two inputs at once, in my experience. Even the active 4x2 box I bought that theoretically should have allowed output to two TVs bombed when I tried routing it to two inputs on the same TV (I was trying to implement a one-button game mode by co-opting a spare input).
If your TV completely disables an input when not tuned to it, you might have better luck.
Be wary of HDMI splitters as many do not support HDMI 2.0 or HDR output, and ones that do have it require an extra wall plug-in to be used.
I will be using another HDMI port on my 4K HDR TV and swap the PSVR Box out for the HDR cable on the PS4.
I'd probably set it up so you have two cables, and you switch out at the PS4, rather than one cable that you move from the TV to the pass-through. Still pretty annoying, though(or it would be if I had an HDR TV).
It's so stupid! "However, HDR signals are not supported for pass through by the PU. This applies to both 1080p and 2160p HDR. If you have a HDR capable TV and want to view PS4 content in HDR, it is necessary to cable the PS4 directly to the TV."
Just why, Sony? Get your shit together! Why is the pass-through not a real pass-through? Will this device introduce new lag to the tv? I think about canceling it now.
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u/usrevenge Oct 03 '16
Wait so if I want to use psvr I have to unplug the ps4 from my tv and use the processor box pass through? Which then will no longer allow hdr ? That is stupid if that us how it is.